#indieweb 2016-12-16

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Zegnat
!tell aaronpk did you document what mf1 (?) you needed to use for Google to pick up on your review?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat
!tell tantek,aaronpk "so you would have dt-reviewed < dt-created < dt-published" - interesting, I am working on a write up of my checkin post (and the thoughts that went behind it) and one of the things I am mentioning is a need for dt-checked-in (or similar) to be able to support /postsquare
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat
(I think I did the comma syntax right, I believe I saw aaronpk using it earlier.)
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Zegnat
Also: good morning IndieWeb!
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petermolnar
morning all
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Zegnat
Morning petermolnar
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petermolnar
question: how do I "POSSE" my git repositories to github, bitbucket, gitlab, etc? The goal is to self-host the "canonical" repositories and once those receive pushed, they should auto-push to the relevant silos
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petermolnar
I've not worked with git hooks yet, so any post-receive tutorial would be welcomed :)
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petermolnar
I'm starting to think how POSSE could be expanded from web to many other things involving silos
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j4y_funabashi
morning all
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cweiske
petermolnar, still here?
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cweiske
I posse my git repos
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cweiske
original is at git.cweiske.de
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cweiske
I mirror them to github.com/cweiske/ as follows:
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cweiske
on my server, I go to the bare git dir
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cweiske
then I add the github repo as new remot
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cweiske
git remote add github ....
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cweiske
git config remote.github.mirror true
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cweiske
(so that always everything is copied)
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cweiske
then I create a post-receive hook file
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cweiske
cat hooks/post-receive
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cweiske
#!/bin/sh
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cweiske
git push --quiet github
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cweiske
and make it executable
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cweiske
on the server that hosts the git repos, I've got a ssh key in ~/.ssh/
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cweiske
(generated with ssh-keygen as usual)
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cweiske
this one is used when the post-receive hook is executed
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cweiske
and on github.com, I've got a second user (cweiske-mirror) that has this key associated
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cweiske
this user has access to my repositories
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cweiske
so it may push to them
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cweiske
that's basically all
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petermolnar
the main reason why I'm asking is that yesterday I read the $66M loss of github and started to think I don't have properly synced copies at the other silos
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petermolnar
not that my projects are so important
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petermolnar
the setup you've described is more or less what I've started to work on
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petermolnar
I've also learned you can add multiple urls to the same remote, so that's a single push to X locations
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cweiske
issues that I have with my setup:
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cweiske
1. setup is tedious. creating a repository with sync setup takes ~10 minutes
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cweiske
2. you can't use the merge button on github, since the next sync from your own repository overwrites everything at github
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cweiske
3. git push takes longer because it waits for the hook to be executed
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cweiske
4. issues/bug reports are still on github
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petermolnar
1, script it; 2. real problem, but you can get the patch easily; 3. not a real problem imho :) 4. that is why I'm looking at fossil
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cweiske
I thought about using a full-featured git web interface
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cweiske
but gitlab is just toooooo heavy with all the services it needs
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cweiske
gogit is ... dead from the number of recent commits and open issues
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petermolnar
and again, that is why I'm considering fossil :)
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cweiske
I would want openid or indieauth for login
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cweiske
for which there is a patch for gogit, but no activity
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j4y_funabashi
what is tumblr
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Loqi
Tumblr is a popular content hosting silo, especially for found images & video, that explicitly supports multiple types of posts, and through free domain mapping, a content hosting service as well https://indieweb.org/Tumblr
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cweiske
I'd like to continue using git and not switch to a different scm again
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cweiske
I went from CVS to SVN to Git, and I've seen enough
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cweiske
and use fossil only as web interface?
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petermolnar
and for wiki and bug tracking
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petermolnar
I'm not sure I have the patience to set this up though
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cweiske
there would also be the issue of telling people that they can use git to clone, that they do not require fossil
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petermolnar
the workflow would be git; fossil would just be an "addon" on top of that, so POSSE to github and gitlab would stay
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petermolnar
the problem is that I'm finally getting used to git, after years of use
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petermolnar
so moving to another system sounds a little painful
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petermolnar
even if it's a secondary sestem
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Why we built Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-12-08 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/why-we-built-known
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Loqi
[indieweb] "A short note about web standards from your friends at Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-10-13 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/a-short-note-about-web-standards-from-your-friends-at
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Self-hosted Known 0.8.5 has left the building - with better indieweb, micropub and AMP support." by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-10-13 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/self-hosted-known-085-has-left-the-building---with-better
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aaronpk
good morning
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Loqi
aaronpk: Zegnat left you a message 7 hours, 12 minutes ago: did you document what mf1 (?) you needed to use for Google to pick up on your review?
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Loqi
aaronpk: Zegnat left you a message 7 hours, 9 minutes ago: "so you would have dt-reviewed < dt-created < dt-published" - interesting, I am working on a write up of my checkin post (and the thoughts that went behind it) and one of the things I am mentioning is a need for dt-checked-in (or similar) to be able to support /postsquare
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aaronpk
petermolnar, cweiske: have you seen gogs.io? that's what I'm using on my server. here's my analysis of it compared to the other options https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/13/18/gogs
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] Going all in on self-hosting my code
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petermolnar
aaronpk cweiske mentioned gogs and that it's not as good as it could be, but I'll take a look as well
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aaronpk
i thought he said gogit
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aaronpk
is that the same thing?
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petermolnar
"Gogs - Go Git Service"
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aaronpk
yeah i'm super not clear on whether that's the same thing 😂
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aaronpk
so from what I heard, there was basically one primary developer of Gogs, and he got hired by Gitlab. but Gitlab is continuing to pay him to develop Gogs since they actually do believe that multiple options are good.
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martymcguire[m]
looks to be the same thing.
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martymcguire[m]
there's a fork of gogs called gitea that looks interesting: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea
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aaronpk
oh boy
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martymcguire[m]
according to the gitea maintainers they didn't like that gogs only has one maintainer
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martymcguire[m]
i've been running gitlab and it is kind of miserable to maintain, so i am watching that closely.
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martymcguire[m]
i need git lfs support for the way i manage my site, which looks to be coming soon for gitea, but... who knows?
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aaronpk
huh I heard gitlab got way easier to maintain ever since they made system packages for it. `apt-get install gitlab`
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martymcguire[m]
it is definitely much better with the system packages (i now actually upgrade it!)
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aaronpk
yuuup haha. my last install of gitlab was almost impossible to upgrade so i just installed another one on top of it. finally replaced both of those with gogs back in feburary
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Loqi
awesome
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martymcguire[m]
however those packages still maintain vendored versions of things like postgresql binaries
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martymcguire[m]
at some point i upgraded my system postgresql, so now all my gitlab upgrades fail at the backup step until i replace gitlab's pg_dump binary with the system one
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martymcguire[m]
so, it works better than before the system packages, but still a squeaky wheel. :}
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petermolnar
to need pgsql for maintaining git repositories sound utterly terrifying to me
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aaronpk
eh it's mostly for all the issues and stuff
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aaronpk
if you just want pure git you don't need any of these things
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aaronpk
even git with a simple web interface can be done without an extra database
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petermolnar
I'm guessing this is the reason why fossil exists
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petermolnar
what is fossil?
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Loqi
Fossil is fossil-scm.org https://indieweb.org/Fossil
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petermolnar
should I put 2.9GB of content under git or not? ( 2.3GB is full res photos, the rest are the other files )
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martymcguire[m]
that is a great use case for Git LFS
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petermolnar
what is git lfs?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "git lfs" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10Vf
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petermolnar
is this something like git annex?
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martymcguire[m]
git lfs is Git Large File Storage (LFS). It replaces large files such as audio samples, videos, datasets, and graphics with text pointers inside Git, while storing the file contents on a remote server.
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martymcguire[m]
git lfs << https://git-lfs.github.com/
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://git-lfs.github.com/" to the "See Also" section of /git lfs
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martymcguire[m]
it is similar to git annex, but uses a secondary server for managing the LFS files
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martymcguire[m]
there is support for it on github, of course, but also gitlab.
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martymcguire[m]
gitea (fork of gogs) has most of the support in place but is waiting to add the feature until after their "upcoming" 1.0 release
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martymcguire[m]
I use Git LFS with my site (a static site powered by Jekyll) to store images, videos, and other assets.
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petermolnar
martymcguire[m] I'm not entirely convinced; the photos are essential part of my site since I pull the content from their exif/xmp parts
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martymcguire[m]
the images are still managed by git and still appear in your working copy. git lfs hooks into the parts of git that decide where to store and retrieve those files.
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martymcguire[m]
this is probably a discussion for dev.
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julianf
Can't stop to chat now, but just want to mention I'm also interested in setting up my own git system, and thinking about which to use and these issues about how to host it etc, so good to see your conversation.
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Loqi
julianf: petermolnar left you a message 6 days, 1 hour ago: when I pull remote stuff, I convert HTML to markdown, then back to HTML from markdown, both with pandoc. Most attack vectors die on that.
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petermolnar
I'm not sure this is the right channel for that, since it's not indie*web*, but it's close, especially if the site's contents are under versio control
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aaronpk
oh what crazy, the google "submit url" thing actually works
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gRegorLove
Cool. Has it not usually worked?
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Loqi
gRegorLove: petermolnar left you a message 1 day, 6 hours ago: interesting; I insist keeping EXIF, even for thumbnails :)
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aaronpk
i've never used it before! i guess i'm just surprised i was able to submit the URL and then actually see it on google!
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aaronpk
i think it might be because they've slowly been finding my 301 redirects?
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martymcguire[m]
wow. is that the number of total pages they have indexed for your domain?
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aaronpk
i just added the https version of my site as a new "property" so we'll see if that gets updated with stats soon
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miklb
So yeah, this new WP plugin for POSSE'ing a tweetstorm is very interesting https://github.com/JJJ/publishiza
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miklb
I just tested it and it's pretty dead simple and just works™
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aaronpk
wow here's a summary of all the rich snippet stuff google supports https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2016-12-16-09-19-20.png
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Loqi
[indieweb] "WordPress Events and Conferences of 2017" by Michelle Polizzi on 2016-12-16 https://pagely.com/blog/2016/12/wordpress-events-conferences-2017/
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gRegorLove
Where is that graph, aaronpk? Somewhere in webmaster tools?
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gRegorLove
And does that review serach result imply they're parsing h-review?
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aaronpk
no, I added hReview markup
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gRegorLove
Nice that they haven't dropped that at least.
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@ChrisAldrich
@wspr It looks like delicious is slowly coming back, so maybe salvageable? For the future I only bookmark on my own site now. #indieweb
(twtr.io/1LMTQ7RVgyQ)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "@wspr It looks like delicious is slowly coming back, so maybe salvageable? For the future I only bookmark on my own site now. #indieweb" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-12-16 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/wspr-it-looks-like-delicious-is-slowly-coming-back-so
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on How to Own & Display Your Twitter Archive on Your Website in Under 10 Minutes by Kevin Marks" by Kevin Marks on 2016-12-15 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/05/how-to-own-display-your-twitter-archive-on-your-website-in-under-10-minutes/#comment-33253
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on GoodReads Year in Review 2016 by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-12-14 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/14/goodreads-year-in-review-2016/#comment-33249
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KevinMarks1
Gillmor Gnag time
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KevinMarks1
do we need to retrieve stacey's photo for hwc sf
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aaronpk
quill draft local storage to the rescue! saved my in progress post when my computer crashed
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KevinMarks1
nice
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KevinMarks1
I've had that wiht noterlive, but also accidentally flushed it by logging in
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miklb
I think I've made an about turn am going to switch to WP instead of trying to hand roll everything I want. At least for near future.
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aaronpk
oh! you should document your motivations!
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miklb
I have notes already on why I want to switch away from the jekyll setup I have, and am crafting more notes on why I'm deciding on WP at this point. Bottom line is, I just want to have a site and not focus so much on IW plumbing from scratch.
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snarfed
reuse++
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Loqi
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tantek
GWG ^^^
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Loqi
tantek: Zegnat left you a message 12 hours, 9 minutes ago: "so you would have dt-reviewed < dt-created < dt-published" - interesting, I am working on a write up of my checkin post (and the thoughts that went behind it) and one of the things I am mentioning is a need for dt-checked-in (or similar) to be able to support /postsquare
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tantek
Zegnat, interesting! I have found myself often noting in my postsquare checkins on Swarm, my time of *actual* checkin as the first thing in the comment/description field of the checkin!
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GWG
miklb, welcome aboard. Let me know if you need anything
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miklb
GWG indeed. First step is going to be a theme. I'm looking at your mf2_s now to see if that's where I want to start or…
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on Owning my old Delicious Bookmarks… Sadly not today. by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-12-16 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/13/owning-my-old-delicious-bookmarks-sadly-not-today/#comment-33269
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GWG
miklb, it is dated. I have a forked branch of mf2 which is stock mf2 with minimal modifications. I may need to rebase that
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GWG
mf2_s is significantly different and needs an update either way
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miklb
I'm also looking at the importers I've tested to see best way to try and import as much metadata from the markdown files/front matter as possible
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miklb
GWG forked branch of mf2?
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GWG
miklb, I submitted a pull request to _s
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GWG
Need link?
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miklb
I can find it, thanks.
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miklb
got it
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GWG
I should rebase
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Loqi
it is probable
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GWG
miklb, too many projects, never enough time
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miklb
GWG i certainly know the feeling. Part of my decision to use WP afterall. Pick my battles so to speak.
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GWG
What are your itches?
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miklb
I really just want to have self contained webmention sending/receiving and micropub and decide from there. I wan to be able to be a content creator for a bit. Then I'll figure out what I want/need
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GWG
Okay
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GWG
miklb, if you could give feedback on the experience that we could use, that would help
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miklb
certainly. I'm taking tons of notes and jotting down thoughts as I go and will write a post mortem on my use of Jekyll and the path thus far. Will continue as I make the transition to WP. From there, will try to take salient points and add to wiki.
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miklb
I do have a very clear vision of how I want to present my content, so that will be the source of short term itches.
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GWG
miklb, issues on the plugins are also welcome
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miklb
absolutely, along with pull requests if I see an opportunity to contribute
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GWG
miklb++
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Loqi
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aaronpk
oh man https://marco.org/2012/09/25/feedburner-counter-replacement "The scariest part: over 90% of my feed’s subscribers use Google Reader. What happens when Google Reader dies?"
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tantek
what is Google Reader?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Google Reader" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10Vi
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Loqi
Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-12-16.html
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aaronpk
lol that animated gif is great
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Zegnat
Is it limited to 2 photos?
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aaronpk
nah KevinMarks_ just missed the generation window
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aaronpk
i regenerated it
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tantek
quite the nice collection!
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Loqi
Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-12-16.html
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tantek
aaronpk - your "site architecture" post is a pretty solid read for this week's newsletter
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tantek
so your review markup summary will be good for next week :)
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aaronpk
oh i forgot about that
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aaronpk
oh i think i fixed that bug after last week
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tantek
they made it into the email version at least!
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aaronpk
yay it worked
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tantek
oh after the animated gif from SF didn't make it in two weeks ago?
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aaronpk
yeah sounds right
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tantek
it didn't even make it to the web page
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aaronpk
oh i just broke that one sec
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aaronpk
oops what the 2nd? no
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tantek
that was the GIF I had trouble posting / POSSEing myself!
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aaronpk
oh was that the really huge one?
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tantek
it was too big for a Twitter image
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tantek
and too short (time) for Instagram
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tantek
so I posted the Instagram error screenshot as a photo to Instagram instead :P
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Loqi
[indieweb] "By: Kevin Marks" by Kevin Marks on 2016-12-15 https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/809192450543652865
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@ChrisAldrich
I like the hover UI/UX w/ social silos on Aram Zucker-Scharff's profile photo here http://aramzuckerscharff.com #Identity #IndieWeb #itch #CSS
(twtr.io/1LMzP_iLNts)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "I like the hover UI/UX w/ social silos on Aram Zucker-Scharff's profile photo here http://aramzuckerscharff.com #Identity #IndieWeb #itch #CSS" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-12-16 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/i-like-the-hover-uiux-w-social-silos-on-aram
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tantek
!tell KevinMarks MozSF venue confirmed for HWC SF in ~2 weeks: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-12-28-homebrew-website-club - Can you create an indie event and FB POSSE copy? Thanks!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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davidmead
Tried replying, on my blog, earlier this week by listing multiple 'u-in-reply-to'. @Twitter only recognized the first one :-( http://davidjohnmead.com/blog/2016/12/14/10292/
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Loqi
davidmead: KartikPrabhu left you a message 5 days ago: I don't think Twitter adds syndication links. Are you using Bridgy to POSSE?
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Loqi
davidmead: GWG left you a message 4 days, 23 hours ago: It looks like me again
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Loqi
[davidmead] Advil & ice packs are working wonders. Thanks @paperbits, @joshboles, @MattKeough, @seanhecking, @joycekeo. in reply to… @davidmead holy shit, are you ok? — Josh DiMauro (@paperbits) December 14, 2016 @davidmead “You should see the ...
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GWG
Good evening, davidmead
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davidmead
evening GWG
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GWG
Things slowly improving on your site?
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davidmead
slowly :-) i’m adding ‘u-in-reply-to’ and embedding tweets manually so i can see how that works
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davidmead
i hope in 2017 to build a WP plugin to work into my flow, when i’ve figured out how i want it
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davidmead
also tried multiple replies, but twitter only grabbed the first one :-(
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GWG
davidmead: As I commented, suggestions, issues, and PRs are always appreciated for any of the existing plugins as well.
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davidmead
i’ll be sure to do that too GWG :-)
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There is so many things to do to improve them.
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GWG
I know my list keeps growing.
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davidmead
i also have to find out why a few of my instagram posts didn’t come over as per normal
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GWG
I'm committed to finishing the next milestone in my location code before 2017
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davidmead
more than happy to be a guinea pig where i can GWG
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GWG
I'm not sure if I'll get full venue support by then, but the rest of the improvements I intend to have in. That would be per-post timezone override and location display.
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GWG
davidmead: You interested in location?
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davidmead
yeah. i syndicate my swarm checkins to my blog and add locations to my instagram posts
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GWG
So, when the next version is released, I'll tell you.
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GWG
I have to get it to work with Micropub though.
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davidmead
that’d be great
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davidmead
time to hit the sack GWG - speak later
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@slightlylate
Easy, integrated payments on the web don't require proprietary warts. Congrats to the @w3c Payments WG, @adrianba,… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/809938952006180864
(twtr.io/1LNA2dSdz7j)
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that's a good reminder snarfed, I want to implement a /payment page at least to start with!
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