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#rhiarohey aaronpk what api do you you use for your weather/temperature thing?
#rhiaroAlso, do you know of a maps API that does nice smooth curves between two places, like how when people post a trip on facebook? I actually wanted this before I noticed facebook was doing it.
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#chrisaldrich2I love the fact that it'll be able to take the geo data from old OwnYourGram and OwnYourCheckin posts and provide a map to go along with them (when I want to display one).
#chrisaldrich2GWG: I tested the timezone and it appears to work as expected. But to be clear, one has to click the over ride and then choose the correct timezone from the drop down right? (ie, the geo data isn't used to auto set the timezone)
#chrisaldrich2It's unfortunate that WordPress's standard for geo data seems to default people's data to public if it's not specified https://codex.wordpress.org/Geodata
#GWGchrisaldrich2: I'm using Latitude: 31.77689 and Longitude: 35.234519 as my test coordinates for a different timezone if you want to check
#chrisaldrich2I notice that with no geo_address set, if I update the post, it automatically updates the geo_address toWestern Wall Plaza, Old City, Jerusalem, Jerusalem District
#chrisaldrich2yeah, it looks like I have to set the timezone manually, but it sets the proper time if I do. Even better if it uses the coordinates to do it automatically if I check a box though!
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#GWGI just checked the code. You have to click the override box for it to save the timezone. I'm going to adjust that, since I changed the behavior to make it non-intuitive.
#GWGBut the question is about whether a set location should be assumed to be public or private.
#chrisaldrich2So, do we need to push micropub and clients like Ownyourgram, ownyourcheckin to add flags to preserve privacy of geodata for posts that go to wordpress?
#GWGchrisaldrich2: It is an area worth exploring, along with properties like draft posting, but no one has built it in yet.
#chrisaldrich2I've been using an instagram plugin that has the ability to PESOS posts to WordPress and specifically because it allows me to set it as draft, pending, private, or just post it automatically.
#chrisaldrich2For a plugin like Simple Location, I'd prefer that when enabling it, that it not presume I want old posts with geodata, but no explicit setting for public/private to treat all my old posts as private unless I set them manually to public.
#chrisaldrich2If I remember things like OwnYourGram send geodata on photos (for example pictures at my house) even though I didn't set a location as visible on Instagram. Thus enabling Simple Location would find all that private data and make it immediately public when turning the plugin on.
#chrisaldrich2How many users (other than IndieWebbers) are likely to have geodata set in a WordPress install?
#GWGchrisaldrich2: I'm going to see what I can do to change the behavior. Making some minor tweaks to the timezone display.
#chrisaldrich2I'm going through my tables and adding the appropriate metadata so that I can enable it on my production site. I don't think there are many posts where I'd prefer to keep the geolocation private as most of my posts to social media are uber-puclic to begin with.
#chrisaldrich2Putting a highlighted note that specifies the privacy issues in the description of the plugin will also help to bring the potential issue to the surface regardless of the way you choose to handle the code. Then people at least have the opportunity to address it before turning it on.
#chrisaldrich2those custom fields are all generally in postmeta right?
#chrisaldrich2GWG: Here's another bizarre issue: the displayed map appears below JetPack's "Share This" functionality and above JetPack's "Related Posts"; I suspect you mean for it to show at the very bottom of the main-content right? (I'm testing it using the new Twenty Seventeen Theme).
#chrisaldrich2I've generally turned that stuff off on my production site, but happened to have it on on my test site.... suppose I ought to load everything up to see if anything else like that pops up. How does one change those priorities btw? I don't know that I've ever look at how to do that.
#aaronpkrhiaro: you mean like a smooth curve great circle line between two distant points?
#chrisaldrich2If it comes down to it, a great circle is the shortest arc between to places on the globe and is typically the path taken by most airplane flights
#aaronpkright, the trick is rendering that path in the webmercator projection
#aaronpkrhiaro: do you have an example of what a facebook post like that looks like?
#rhiaroI clicked the little face 'what are you feeling/doing' and chose 'traveling from' in the drop down, then picked a country from the next dropdown
#aaronpkwow i did not know facebook had so many post types
#KevinMarks Control point - further away, more curved.
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#[nate]question: I've been having fun with my newly set up and indieauth-compatible domain (nateparsons.com) and want to take it a step further, with https://nateparsons.com/signin.html. I've gotten as far as getting users (me) redirected to nateparsons.com/auth?code={}, but I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Is there an existing nginx module for this? Some python I can drop in?
#KevinMarksOr make it the average of x1 and x2 and still 0 for y
#ZegnatAlso funny how it cut off my comment right before the answer. Maybe I should rethink how I write replies
#aaronpkooh, i'm not using the part of php-comments that finds that property... because of the roundabout way comments get parsed for my site from webmention.io -> XRay -> my website
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#ZegnatLoqi, that did not need to end in an ellipsis, that was my whole post.
#ZegnatApparently Loqi accepts my site again though!
#aaronpkha! you must have hit the exact character count for Loqi to think he should truncate the post. Loqi's truncation could use some work
#ZegnatSince the last slew of fixes, my mf2 has been completely parsable. Tested with XRay and pin13. And tried jkphl’s new parser https://micrometa.jkphl.is/
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#sebseloh my, I don't even store the target url, so my site has no idea where Zegnat's post is :/ how strange.
#sebselBut that's all because of relative url's and stuff.
#sebselNow going to send mentions again, see what happens.
#sebselmeh, now it things Zegnat's post is on my site :')
#snarfed[insert obligatory complaint that he should have possed]
#tanteksnarfed, is there a github repo where we can file feature requests / patches to help that project support indieweb protocols? (obligatory attempt to ask a constructive question :) )
#miklbchrisaldrich2 thanks, I did look at it, still might play around with it, but solved my migration by writing a semi-custom xml file to import into WP.
#miklbslow. adapting an html design to what I want in WP. Also got caught with a transient cache sticking so couldn't figure out why a loop wasn't working way it was supposed to.
#petermolnarmiklb are you modifying an existing theme?
#petermolnarbecause that's always painful, in my experience
#miklbnot a theme, but a straight HTML set of templates.
#ZegnatThat post is probably my first person-mention, thanks aaronpk!
#GWGchrisaldrich2: Does your phone record altitude?
#chrisaldrich2I'm not sure if it does actually. I still hadn't figured out the issue with why my site wassnt running the js to get the location data. still hadn't been able to with the new changes as of this morning, but I also hadn't tried on my mobile again either.
#chrisaldrich2I had an app that did indicate my altitude a year or two ago on a phone that's now 3 generations old, so I suspect my phone still should.
#GWGI haven't been anywhere of an altitude sufficient to wonder about that. But right now, that data is not used, just displayed and passed for future use. I want to try to use accuracy.
#chrisaldrich2what values does accuracy take/use? the ui isn't specific
#GWGAccuracy in meters. As in, how close to the actual position is it?
#chrisaldrich2If I remember most commercial GPS data is only accurate to 10-100 feet.
#GWGFor example, my phone just returned 20M as the accuracy. My computer returns 5000M
#chrisaldrich2I suspect you're trying to use it so one could indicate a neighborhood range without specifying one's particular home address (for example)
#chrisaldrich2oh, you're actually taking in the devices's estimated accuracy...
#GWGaaronpk: I couldn't even get it to work on a plane.
#chrisaldrich2I've got a device or two that I could use for manual input of altitude. Depending on the GPS service, the altitude could be good/bad. Most commercial phones specifically do a bad job.
#aaronpkyeah it very much depends on the phone and the plane
#aaronpkand your location wtihin the plane (window seats work better, mostly impossible near the middle)
#chrisaldrich2some airplane headsets have screens which give altitude, speed and heading along with ETAs that are relatively accurate
#aaronpksometimes the in-flight wifi has that data too!
#GWGchrisaldrich2: That is why I might open up the fields in the future. But for now, it is informational.
#chrisaldrich2If I can get over the JS issue I can do some more thorough testing, but I'm supposed to be joining some friends to watch what's left of the Rose Bowl game.
#GWGchrisaldrich2: Have fun. Your opinion is worth waiting on.
#chrisaldrich2Definitely smart to build that stuff in, particularly with things like trips, or apps which track athletic data for run/bike distances and rise/run data
#chrisaldrich2Gets back to rhiaro's question about pseudo-flight path's in the last day or so... wouldn't it be nice to have the actual GPS flight path data for things like that?
#chrisaldrich2I actually used the Sears Tower last night as dummy data for testing, and I did kind of wish I had altitude so I could show I was at the top of the building instead of the bottom.
#aaronpkah the radio device? /me moves this to #indiechat
#chrisaldrich2GWG: I'll try to catch you later this evening...