#indieweb 2017-02-13

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miklb huge if true
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snarfed hah, sorry, blame my cat
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aaronpk ?
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@100daysindieweb Day 54: Fixed a JS Vulnerability in Quill #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/12/11/day-54-quill (twitter.com/_/status/830997138523901953)
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GWG Just released a new version of Version 2.4.4 so now I can develop in a branch and break things
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tantek FB changed their event permalink page design again!
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tantek I'm seeing a single narrower center column of event info (much smaller header image), then left column is their calendar/events menu, right column is "related events"
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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Zegnat Loqi, what did I miss this weekend?
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Loqi misses this weekend too
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cweiske this is AI in 2017. we do not need to fear skynet
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tantek misses this weekend too
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@ncollig_net Copains belges et bruxellois, https://hwc.brussels/ fait son premier event #indieweb le 2 mars! Viendez! :-) https://www.meetup.com/HWC-Brussels/events/237634670/i3/socialmedia/ (twitter.com/_/status/831054441205919744)
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Zegnat I think I am going to have an IndieWebWeek next week. I will be jobless and alone.
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voxpelli Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 32 karma in this channel (34 overall)
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Zegnat So if anyone has ideas, I am all ears!
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petermolnar !tell aaronpk there is a bug in chat.indieweb.org: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-02-12 -> urls under all "#" after 16:00 are for 2017-02-13 - I'm sniffing timezone errors here
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat I think all URLs are normalised to UTC, and only presented in your local timezone on the front end. Something like that.
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petermolnar well, it doesn't work as it should
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petermolnar click on them and see where you end up
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Zegnat Oh, right, that problem
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Zegnat petermolnar: https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org/issues/9
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petermolnar oh
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jeremycherfas Aaronpk I have the plugin to allow POSSE to Twitter from WithKnown, but I do not understand how I can get Quill to see that as a Syndication target.
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petermolnar jeremycherfas https://quill.p3k.io/docs/syndication
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jeremycherfas Thank you petermolnar. My problem is that I don’t actually understand what I need to DO.
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petermolnar when quill queries your site for the micropub endpoint it also queries for syndication list
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petermolnar you need to respond to that with a list
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petermolnar if you can, listed in to the incoming requests (web server access log will help) and see the incoming things
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petermolnar example:
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jeremycherfas Right. So how do I ensure that this site — which uses WithKnown — will respond properly?
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petermolnar you need make it respont to [micropub endpoint]?q=syndicate-to with your list of supported syndications
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petermolnar who is jeremycherfas?
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Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/User:Jeremycherfas.net
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petermolnar you don't seem to have a micropub endpoint in your header
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jeremycherfas I’m checking the documentation now https://indieweb.org/Known
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petermolnar how can you log in to quill?
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Zegnat See https://indieweb.org/Known#How_to_use_Quill - looks like you need a separate plugin for micropub
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cweiske no, it's in the core
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cweiske question is if it's enabled
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jeremycherfas I have a micropub plugin in the core, called IndiePub 0.2, and it is enabled.
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jeremycherfas Says it must have a single-user theme, so I better check that.
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jeremycherfas I switched to Solo, which says it is a single-user theme, and that does not appear to have made any difference.
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jeremycherfas Petermolnar, there is a micropub endpoint in the header for stream.jeremycherfa.net and Quill is able to publish to the site.
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petermolnar wget -O- http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/micropub/endpoint?q=syndicate-to - this gives me error 403 forbidden, so I can't see what it returns
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jeremycherfas Does that mean I need to change permissions
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cweiske no
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petermolnar https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/IndiePub/Pages/MicroPub/Endpoint.php#L61 - hm
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petermolnar I'm guessing it's working fine, I'm not authenticated
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jeremycherfas I know I am a bit out of my depth here, but not sure whether this is an issue for Known or for Quill.
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@rMdes_ Lancement du https://hwc.brussels/ (Homebrew Website Club) #Indieweb: http://meetu.ps/e/Cv2Dv/wC0hz/f (twitter.com/_/status/831124500385259520)
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@HwcBrussels Lancement du https://hwc.brussels/ (Homebrew Website Club) #Indieweb: http://meetu.ps/e/Cv2Dv/wC0hz/f (twitter.com/_/status/831124502427926528)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Lancement du HWC.Brussels (Homebrew Website Club) #Indieweb" by Ricardo Mendes on 2017-02-13 http://meetu.ps/e/Cv2Dv/wC0hz/f
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petermolnar jeremycherfas it's really hard to tell without seeing what's coming in and what's the response for that
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petermolnar but in theory, it should be working
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jeremycherfas That would be in my logs, right?
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jeremycherfas Problem is, I seem to have logs only from yesterday, not today. Need to check again.
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jeremycherfas Nope, sorry. Found it. Taking a look now.
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petermolnar so if you see what's coming in you can replicate that and see what the response is, for example, with curl or wget
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jeremycherfas This is what I see in the log:
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jeremycherfas 173.230.155.197 - - [13/Feb/2017:04:44:00 -0800] "GET /micropub/endpoint?q=syndicate-to HTTP/1.1" 200 16940 "-" "-"
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petermolnar yeah, that doesn't log the authorization header, without it it's hard to replicate the call
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jeremycherfas Is the authorization header the access token?
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jeremycherfas I can see only the first 5 digits of that.
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petermolnar ok, I'm getting confused as well.
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jeremycherfas Well, maybe we should take a break and hope that aaronpk will be along and maybe able to help. :)
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jeremycherfas Thanks for your help
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petermolnar !tell aaronpk should 'syndicate-to' and 'config' requests be authorized? As in: should the client include authorization in the header and can the endpoint request this?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar because this seems to be the problem with the known indiepub
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petermolnar https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/IndiePub/Pages/MicroPub/Endpoint.php#L58 calls 'gatekeeper()' , which, as far as I understand, is doing the auth checking
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petermolnar so this seems to be an undocumented on both sides
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jeremycherfas It has long been an issue but this issue is now closed. https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/519
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jeremycherfas I wonder if it has something do do with Convoy.
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cweiske are you using the latest known Known version?
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jeremycherfas Latest package release 0.9.2
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cweiske ok
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jeremycherfas I’ve tried disabling Convoy, and I get a message saying it has been uninstalled, but it keeps showing as enabled.
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jeremycherfas OK, even with Convoy out of the way, Quill still doesn’t find my Syndication targets.
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petermolnar ok, this is what quill sends for 'syndicate refresh': http://pastebin.com/EeLkeNj8
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petermolnar so the auth header is sent
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sebsel petermolnar The example in the spec does use an authorization bearer https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#configuration-p-2
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rMdes Hey #indieweb, me and Ncollig will be launching our first indieweb event in Brussels 2/03/2017, right now we operated on meetup/facebook to build-up community, since the whole indieweb concept is pretty much unknown around here.
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rMdes but I was looking over at the wiki and see that the event page is being used a lot by different meetups, do we have any guidelines or how-to about how to add new events on the wiki ?
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rMdes I want to make sure Brussels gets in the wiki, but I wanted to adopt the best work-flow, if you have any experience working with the wiki for event, I would love to read and get inspired by how others in the community organize their own events
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aaronpk Good morning!
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Loqi aaronpk: petermolnar left you a message 5 hours, 39 minutes ago: there is a bug in chat.indieweb.org: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-02-12 -> urls under all "#" after 16:00 are for 2017-02-13 - I'm sniffing timezone errors here
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Loqi aaronpk: petermolnar left you a message 1 hour, 38 minutes ago: should 'syndicate-to' and 'config' requests be authorized? As in: should the client include authorization in the header and can the endpoint request this?
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Loqi morning!
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aaronpk yes the client should authenticate the request for config or syndication targets because they might be dependent on the user
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jeremycherfas Aaronpk I know that finding the syndication targets in a Known install was a problem before, but has it been solved? I can’t find anything to suggest how this could be done.
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aaronpk I don't really know the state of known's micropub support
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jeremycherfas OK. I’ll open an issue with Known.
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aaronpk rMdes: first step would be adding it to the list on /events so that there's at least a link to it and so that it shows up in the newsletter
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aaronpk then you could also make a separate event page if you want. Are these different than the Homebrew Website Club events?
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@romaricpascal ?Kudos @indiewebcamp for a super helpful wiki. Helped getting my Instagram content a new home at https://romaricpascal.is/drawing-letters/ ? (twitter.com/_/status/831178253327024128)
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Zegnat rMdes, incase you are still reading: the /events page has a section on how to add them https://indieweb.org/events#How_To_Add_An_Event
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tantek when is OSBridge?
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Loqi what
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tantek what is OSBridge?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "OSBridge" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek lol
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tantek kinda surprised by that
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tantek what is Open Source Bridge
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Open Source Bridge" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek Open Source Bridge is an annual open source conference in Portland Oregon where many indieweb talks have been given over the years. http://opensourcebridge.org/
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Loqi ok
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tantek OSBridge is [[Open Source Bridge]]
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Loqi ok
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tantek hmm http://opensourcebridge.org/ doesn't have dates for 2017, that's a bit odd right? usually CFPs are due soon right?
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tantek aaronpk: any idea what's up with OSBridge this year?
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tantek OSBridge << [[events/2014-06-24-indieauth-at-osbridge]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[events/2014-06-24-indieauth-at-osbridge]]" to the "See Also" section of /Open Source Bridge
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tantek OSBridge << /webactions#2012
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Loqi ok, I added "/webactions#2012" to the "See Also" section of /Open Source Bridge
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tantek OSBridge << [[2012/Open_Checkins]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[2012/Open_Checkins]]" to the "See Also" section of /Open Source Bridge
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aaronpk i haven't heard anything about it yet
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tantek that's odd right?
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tantek wonders if he should ask in the #osbridge channel
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aaronpk you will probably get a response from someone there!
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tantek I'll lurk there for a bit
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aaronpk it's not super active but they do pay attention
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dgold aaronpk: are your patches to selfoss still available anywhere??
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dgold s/??/?
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aaronpk hm i thought they were on my github
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dgold 404
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aaronpk huh
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@ncollig_net Meetup #indieweb, #vieprivée, #autohébergement à Bruxelles le 2 mars - on lance https://hwc.brussels/ @ Huis VDH,… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/831203355385032704 (twitter.com/_/status/831203355385032704)
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aaronpk i must have deleted it
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aaronpk IIRC it wasn't actually a very good plugin, and was also relatively simple. i started from https://github.com/SSilence/selfoss/blob/master/spouts/rss/feed.php and adapted it to parse mf2 instead of RSS
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dgold :) it was that adaptation I'd hoped to get a look at
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aaronpk i must have really hated that code if i deleted it
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GWG Afternoon
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GWG When is the next domestic IWC?
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Loqi what
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miklb GWG not one schedule for 2017 from what I can tell
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GWG We need one. I need to get out of Dodge
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tantek GWG, what do you think of Brooklyn?
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GWG The drivers are crazy.
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miklb hmm, I would have a place to stay in Brooklyn
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "How I hacked my own site by feeding it a profile picture via webmention" https://seblog.nl/2017/02/13/3/how-i-hacked-my-own-site
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aaronpk sebsel++
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Loqi sebsel has 12 karma in this channel (14 overall)
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sebsel :D
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aaronpk that was a sneaky one :)
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petermolnar I should make this my avatar-url: https://www.bamsoftware.com/hacks/deflate.html
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Loqi +1
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petermolnar sebsel++
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Loqi sebsel has 13 karma in this channel (15 overall)
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petermolnar I would add an extra fix: limit the mime type only, but have a fix list of extension according to the mime type (reverse mime magic table). The reason why it was executed is because it was called .php, and the php servers are usually configured to pick .php files up. If it was named at the original location x.php, but you renamed it according to the mime type as x.jpg, this would not have happened.
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aaronpk also i have learned to not check file extension from people's avatar URLs because some sites (like Known) use extensionless URLs for their images
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sebsel yeah, big files still scare me. Need to do something about that too. Setting the extension yourself sounds good, indeed. I was planning that too, but it was not what Bastian decided to do. Does not have to keep me from it though. The extensionless urls sound like a good reason to do so.
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