#indieweb 2017-02-25

2017-02-25 UTC
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "This Week in the IndieWeb February 18 - 24, 2017" https://martymcgui.re/2017/02/24/190931/
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martymcguire[m]
gonna be busy tomorrow during the time i would have put the audio edition together, so it's up now.
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gRegorLove
martymcguire[m]++
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Loqi
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@schmarty
I make podcast! This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition for Feb 18th - 24th, 2017. https://martymcgui.re/2017/02/24/190931/
(twitter.com/_/status/835284648326533121)
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aaronpk
that took longer than i wanted
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aaronpk
martymcguire[m]++ for the podcast!
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Loqi
martymcguire has 10 karma
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miklb
what are likes
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Loqi
likes are sometimes part of the information about a post displayed on the post itself, sometimes in a post footer, like a total number like responses, icons of recent likers, or even a datetime ordered list of likes https://indieweb.org/likes
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miklb
GWG++
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Loqi
gwg has 190 karma in this channel (207 overall)
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miklb
now that I've found WP_Comment_Query, easy to make ficepile
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miklb
s/ficepile/facepile/
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GWG
Did I hear my name?
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miklb
aye. I figured out how to create facepiles for likes & reposts using comment query class. Super easy
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GWG
miklb, about the Webmention question, no
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miklb
is that in regards to the comment on a webmention comment or to the Q in -dev?
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GWG
Replying to a Webmention generated comment will not generate a Webmention
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miklb
I assmed after sgreger pointed me to the webmention for comments plugin
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GWG
miklb, because comments in WordPress have no permalink is the other answer
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miklb
I thought you could link to a WP comment
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miklb
comment_ID I thought
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GWG
There are issues with the pagination there
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[chrisaldrich]
!tell dgold For basic WordPress set up, try https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress, there's also a link to other resources on that page within the wiki table
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
Hello [chrisaldrich]
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Loqi
giggles
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GWG
Nice
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miklb_
those svg icons might be a bit hokey though
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GWG
Won't disagree
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GWG
miklb_: You could always try the ones I use
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miklb_
with the CSS i'm using, a sprite isn't easy to use
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miklb_
I grabbed a couple of basic ones from noun project for now
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GWG
miklb_: The individual SVG icons are there
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miklb_
oh, I didn't notice, I just removed the CSS from those plugins and noticed it was using a sprite. I'll take a look. thanks
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GWG
Resources are there
wolftune, singpoly1a, duper`, wagle_, sivoais_, j12t, minsky, moredhel, anglophilic, iboxifoo, Guerillero|BNC, raucao, marinintim, BrAsS_mOnKeY, StatelessCat, g3funk, gluytium, alphi, leg, bear, bret, sivoais, awolf, iboxifoo_, minsky- and braidn_ joined the channel
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miklb_
GWG do you have any experience ordering comments by time?
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GWG
Not recently. I had some pagination comment issues.
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miklb_
ah, 'orderby' => 'comment_date'
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miklb_
thanks again for the help. Made great progress on my new webmentions/comments code tonight.
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GWG
Wish I could be more
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miklb_
Oh, you have. Without the work you've done, I wouldn't be able to do what I'm doing.
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miklb_
fwiw, this is what I wound up using to show my comments without the likes/reposts https://gist.github.com/miklb/6700d7032e9637874fe789112466cc41#file-comments-php-L103
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miklb_
if you see a better way, I'm all for it.
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sknebel
"Three recommendations to enable Annotations on the Web" (no Loqi expand for w3 pages?)
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KartikPrabhu
so complicated, those are!
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sknebel
yeah, and while according to their tests there are some implementations I haven't found a nice overview over those :/
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KartikPrabhu
I'll stick to fragmentions+marginalia :P
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[jeremycherfas]
I'll be watching you closely.
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Loqi
[indieweb] "The IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”" by doener on 2017-02-25 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13730914
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@SecNewsBot
Hacker News - The IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web” https://indieweb.org/
(twitter.com/_/status/835434277013766145)
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@ryf_feed
The IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web” https://indieweb.org/
(twitter.com/_/status/835434465728024577)
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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dgold
is it morning?
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Loqi
dgold: [chrisaldrich] left you a message 8 hours, 33 minutes ago: For basic WordPress set up, try https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress, there's also a link to other resources on that page within the wiki table
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Zegnat
dgold, it is always morning when joining IRC
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Zegnat
What is UGT?
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Loqi
Universal Greeting Time is the convention of greeting people in online chat with "good morning" regardless of the local time of day of either person https://indieweb.org/UGT
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dgold
Zegnat: oh, I know, just that it is Saturday - so time dims
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Zegnat
Oh, it is Saturday? :p My entire concept of time has been whacky since no longer having a day-job.
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[jeremycherfas]
Saturday is when the real work happens.
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sknebel
good morning!
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Zegnat
Morning sknebel :)
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GWG
miklb_: I'm starting to see what I can do with templates and the display code. I may ask you to install the branch to give me an opinion, if you are up for it, when I get to a certain point.
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sknebel
content if this (German) blog post is irrelevant, but it's the first time I've seen "to comment, like, tweet or facebook please visit the medium version of this blogpost" https://www.jobpushy.de/blog/11/self-contained-system-scs-%E2%80%94-architektur-trend
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Salt
aaronpk, or someone else who might know, who was the photographer at IWS last year? I really liked an image they took and want to verify the licensing etc
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aaronpk
that was Julie
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miklb_
GWG absolutely
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GWG
miklb, I just finished with duration and RSVP
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miklb_
I'm going to work on incorporating threaded comments to the template I was working on last night.
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GWG
miklb, will keep you posted
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miklb_
sweet. So far I only modified the quote kind view, but will probably want to tweak a few others to start. I'll hold off until you get closer, plenty of to-dos on my list to keep me busy :-)
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aaronpk
o.O I found h-recipe in the wild
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aaronpk
like... mf2 h-recipe
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dgold
snarfed's code snippet to force Akismet to allow webmentions through sans moderation - where does that need to be put?
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[chrisaldrich]
dgold, it needs to be put in your theme's functions.php file
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dgold
thanks [chrisaldrich]
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[chrisaldrich]
aaronpk, where was that h-recipe hiding?
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aaronpk
i added it to the mf2 wiki
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dgold
[chrisaldrich]: I think I'll leave that for down the line
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[chrisaldrich]
dgold, If you haven't come across the idea of a child theme, you should consider one as any updates to the base theme that you do, your manual updates will be overwritten
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dgold
working throught that webpage
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[chrisaldrich]
dgold, I hadn't used it for a long time, but this past week decided to quite moderating my comments (or at least moderate them after the fact)
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[chrisaldrich]
let us know if you have problems or questions following any of the parts, we're continually updating it to help make things easier for future /generations
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG, sorry I missed you last night. Like I am at the moment, I just stopped in for a minute while reading through the logs.
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[chrisaldrich]
thanks aaronpk! I love examples in the wild, and it would be nice to have more of them on wiki pages. It serves as social proof that people are behind indieweb philosophy even if they don't necessarily practice all the aspects.
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GWG
I wanted to tell you I was working on duration
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GWG
No urgency. I saw you passing through
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dgold
bridgyerror=10 sigh
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[chrisaldrich]
dgold, do you have prior WordPress experience?
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dgold
[chrisaldrich]: almost none.
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dgold
finding it _very_ tough going, to be honest
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miklb_
dgold feel free to ping me in -dev with any specific code questions. I'm still weaving IndieWeb stuff into my site, but I'm pretty familiar with the underlying code
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[chrisaldrich]
I think that most people who've gone through it IndieWebifying WordPress had at least some experience, so any feedback you can provide will be very helpful to others. But folks like I, GWG, and miklb are happy to help
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dgold
thanks, miklb, I'm just going down through the wiki pages [chrisaldrich] pointed me at earlier
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dgold
did google reset a load of auth tokens?
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aaronpk
"During routine maintenance, a number of users were signed-out from their Google accounts."
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GWG
dgold, I just got home, if you give me a few to unload my groceries I can try to help
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dgold
thank you GWG (& [chrisaldrich] & miklb ) I think I'll leave it for this evening
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dgold
have to start making some pizza shortly
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GWG
dgold: Do you deliver?
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dgold
GWG: where are you?
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dgold
(ball-park location)
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GWG
New York
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dgold
there's no concordes any more is there?
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dgold
then... no
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GWG
dgold, not flying, no.
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GWG
But they are talking about a new supersonic passenger jet
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dgold
my wife and I make them (most) saturdays - just for us - have with a nice Spanish vino
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Zegnat
Where is dgold?
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Zegnat
Oh, I guess that wasn’t the Loqi trigger?
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dgold
got a nice cariñena
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Zegnat
Where is Zegnat?
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Zegnat
When is Zegnat?
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Loqi
what
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dgold
is in .ie
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Zegnat
What time is it for dgold?
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Loqi
In dgold's timezone, Europe/Dublin, it is currently 9:14pm on February 25
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Zegnat
That was the thing!
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[jeremycherfas]
!tell chrisaldrich I tried to make my most recent bread post h-recipe
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat
dgold, I remembered Loqi got updated to parse the timezones, so I thought it would tell me your approx. location. Just couldn’t remember the question ;)
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dgold
hey, that's super cool.
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kbs
problem - a small "thing-in-a-box" that works offline, and lets (e.g. in a multi-day boat trip/no general internet access) people have an easy-to-use message board, photo-sharing. Clients typically will be a phone. Would https://indieweb.org/UBOS the best fit here?
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bear
my first thought would be to check if UBOS offered DHCP/DNS and some of the other hidden-but-required items that people at home and on the phone get from their ISP
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kbs
ah, good point
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bear
you may need something that gives router+AP services *and* UBOS
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kbs
I have a feeling that there will be a set of iptable fiddling to get it to behave more as a router with...
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bear
AP == Access Point
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kbs
took the words out of my mouth :-)
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kbs
is there an alternate starting point you might recommend looking at?
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bear
there is work to have those micro cells for disaster scenes
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bear
let me get a link - have to remember the names
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kbs
sknebel: thanks for the pointer (have been poking there as well.)
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bear
yea, piratebox is one of them
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sknebel
UBOS (and nowadays most other self-hosted in a box things) reasonably integrate Let's Encrypt for certs. that's not going to work offline, or at least not gueranteed (depends if you remembered to renew certs before you went offline ;))
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bear
ah - Byzantium is the other I was thinking of
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kbs
bear: aha, http://project-byzantium.org/ I take it? Thanks for that pointer
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bear
that would create the networking environment one step above what piratebox does
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kbs
it would be nice to mesh the APs.
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kbs
great. bear sknebel - thank you for tips and pointers :)
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sknebel
no problem. if you have further questions or want some feedback, just ask :)
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