#indieweb 2017-03-11

2017-03-11 UTC
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tantek since only the first photo of a multi-photo gets POSSEd to FB, I'm not sure I want to person-tag anyone who is not in that first photo
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tantek guess that's the easiest/simplest thing to do, even though it feels not quite right.
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tantek maybe a multi-photo post with tags *per photo* should instead be multiple photo posts?
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snarfed1 IG's multi-photo is so funny. such big awkward implementation details visible :P
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tantek snarfed, I'm wondering at what point a multi-photo post is actually an album post
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tantek with per photo person-tags, that might be a threshold
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tantek struggling with this
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tantek the comments are still on the whole "thing". so perhaps it's like having comments on an album where the individual photos do not allow comments?
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tantek aaronpk curious about your opinion here too
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tantek does the Twitter UI allow per-photo person-tagging in a single tweet with multiple photos?
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tantek any examples thereof?
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snarfed1 tantek: the funny implementation details are that the individual IG photos *do* allow comments. just not obvious through the UI
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[kevinmarks] Hm. If I wasn't on 2g I'd test that
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snarfed1 https://indieweb.org/multi-photo#Implementation_details
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tantek snarfed1 whoa what
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snarfed1 read that link :P
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tantek oh my
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snarfed1 ooh looks like web now redirects the individual photo links to the multi-photo URL
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tantek snarfed, what do you think of the possibility of POSSEing an album post to FB?
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tantek like is it even possible to create a new photo album on FB and then add a bunch of photos to it, each with its own person-tags?
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snarfed1 tantek: not easily supported by the FB API :/ https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/583
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snarfed1 (also https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/678 )
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snarfed1 maybe doable, just not easy. i think full scale photo albums in general may be out of scope for bridgy.
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tantek curious about aaronpk's opinions about multi-photo vs album post
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tantek this is classic, I'm stuck on POSSEing (and thus publishing) a post because I'm running into the edges of post type vs specific silo support
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tantek hey chrisaldrich - since I was blunt with my feedback of your webmention-overview, take a look at the updated https://indieweb.org/Webmention and be similarly blunt :)
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@TerminalPixel Day 66 of #100DaysOfCode: Look at all those ticks for my #indieweb micropub helper library ✅ https://www.npmjs.com/package/micropub-helper (twitter.com/_/status/840357379699019776)
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aaronpk conveniently, instagram's new multiphoto things map almost 1:1 to how i implemented albums on my site
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tantek wow ok
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tantek maybe this will be my last multi-photo post then and then I'll somehow have to figure out how to do /album posts instead
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tantek or maybe I'll figure out specific use-cases for multi-photo vs. album
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tantek like: multi-photo: thematically similar or adjacent photos in time (same event and location) without photo-specific person-tags or commentary, e.g. consider the Twitter 4-photos in a tweet feature / POSSE destination
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tantek and: album: any other set of thematically related photos but maybe spanning more time, or locations, or with additional per-photo information like person-tags per photo, with the intent of POSSEing them as an album, e.g. to Flickr and Facebook, while being ok with a "downlevel" POSSE tweet of only the first four photos in the album
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tantek going to let that marinate here in IRC to see if that kind of distinction resonates with anyone else (especially aaronpk, snarfed) before documenting as brainstorming
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tantek multi-photo << album
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Loqi ok, I added "[[album]]" to the "See Also" section of /multi-photo
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tantek album << multi-photo
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Loqi ok, I added "[[multi-photo]]" to the "See Also" section of /album
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tantek album << to-do: file [[Bridgy]] Publish feature requests to POSSE an album (including all its photos) to [[Flickr]], and to [[Facebook]] (separate GH issues) and then document here in line in a "How to POSSE" section
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Loqi ok, I added "[[to-do: file [[Bridgy]] Publish feature requests to POSSE an album (including all its photos) to [[Flickr]], and to [[Facebook]] (separate GH issues) and then document here in line in a "How to POSSE" section]]" to the "See Also" section of /album
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tantek lol
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aaronpk oh no
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aaronpk what have i don
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tantek whoa /album is a tiny page
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aaronpk every time i'm on bad wifi I am very thankful for my media endpoint when trying to post photos
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gRegorLove Does it contain other pages? :)
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snarfed tantek: re bridgy issues, https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/678 is FB albums
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snarfed also feel free to reply to https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/730 (nudge since i guess you still trash all github notif emails? :P)
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tantek no just autofile
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snarfed ah ok
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tantek looking
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tantek aaronpk got album posts? https://indieweb.org/album#Aaron_Parecki :)
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tantek snarfed, thanks for the GH issue #s - linked!
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tantek (and commented in as much as I can help the dialog along at all)
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tantek alright let's see what this latest multi-photo attempt POSSEs like to Twitter
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TC14 Beginner question for the people in here: Do I need to configure anything on my server or within Known to receive webmentions? Within Bridgy, all of the responses I've received have "No webmention targets" written below them.
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TC14 I've been able to POST webmentions to Bridgy via curl and also using the web interface no problem.
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snarfed TC14: try https://brid.gy/about#missing ?
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TC14 Ahhh okay. So I require an a tag with a class of u-syndication inside the h-entry.
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snarfed or a link back to your original post in the silo post (tweet, etc)
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TC14 Is there an easy way for me to add these u-syndication links to a post within Known or do I require a plugin?
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TC14 Or something beyond that?
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tantek TC14, Known should be adding the u-syndication links automatically I thought when it cross-posts to social media. Can you share an example post link of yours that has copy/copies on social media?
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TC14 tantek: https://www.tomlawrence.co.uk/2017/03/holy-shit-sec-denied-bitcoin-etf-shits-about-to-get
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Loqi [Tom Lawrence] Holy shit, SEC denied Bitcoin ETF. Shit's about to get wild. https://www.tomlawrence.co.uk/file/0598e8673b18b3e3526629ea088d0918/thumb.png...
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TC14 syndicated to https://twitter.com/tjlawrence/status/840311620375072769
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@tjlawrence ## Holy shit, SEC denied Bitcoin ETF. Shit's about to get wild. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6li9mRVoAABW1_.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/840311620375072769)
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TC14 Should Known be capable of syndicating automatically to Twitter? I've been manually doing it via curl command each time.
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tantek I thought it was - though it might require a service? I'm not entirely certain TBH
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tantek e.g. http://werd.io/2017/resistbot-is-a-low-friction-way-to-contact-your-representatives see the "Also on:" links at the bottom of the post
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Loqi [Ben Werdmüller] Resistbot is a low friction way to contact your representatives. Really cool. https://resistbot.io/
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tantek that link to syndicated copies on Twitter and FB. I know benwerd's site generates those automatically
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gRegorLove TC14, tantek: Probably this plugin: https://github.com/idno/Twitter
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tantek and when I view source, the links have "u-syndication" on them
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gRegorLove More plugins here: https://github.com/idno
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TC14 gRegorLove: That looks like it'll do the trick. Many thanks!
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gRegorLove Should make your corss-posting much easier!
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gRegorLove yw
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gRegorLove What is Twitter for Known?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Twitter for Known" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove Twitter for Known is a plugin for [[Known]] that adds [[POSSE]] support https://github.com/idno/Twitter
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Loqi ok
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tantek gRegorLove++
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Loqi gregorlove has 79 karma in this channel (108 overall)
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gRegorLove From https://indieweb.org/Known#Plugins_.26_themes " If you want to POSSE to external sites, you need to install those plugins separately (although they may also be included in a downloadable distribution of the content)."
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gRegorLove Then it lists the core content type plugins.
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gRegorLove We should probably add the other plugins there.
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gRegorLove I'm not sure I understand that parenthetical, actually.
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@100daysindieweb Day 80: Replaced my HTTPS Certificates #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/03/10/20/day-80-ssl (twitter.com/_/status/840384276247990272)
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miklb what is bookmark
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Loqi A bookmark (or linkblog) is a post that is primarily comprised of a URL, often title text from that URL, sometimes optional text describing, tagging, or quoting from its contents https://indieweb.org/bookmark
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miklb what is p-bookmark-of
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "p-bookmark-of" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk The prefixes just tell the parser where to get the value from
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aaronpk u- means the value is the href attribute. p- means the value is what is inside the tag
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miklb ah. Thanks
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@malcolmblaney @brianjesse my reader (http://unicyclic.com) is #indieweb friendly, but it's a web app. (twitter.com/_/status/840417820613599233)
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chatter29 hey guys
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chatter29 allah is doing
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chatter29 sun is not doing allah is doing
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chatter29 to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: could you block/ban chatter29 ?
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@webrocker @cafffm @beckenhaub evtl wegen indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/840482703736750081)
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sebsel good morning indieweb :)
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sebsel if I publish a comic, is that still u-photo?
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sebsel probably the best way to do it, since people know what to do with it, but I don't want them to be in my photo feed.
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sebsel what is comic?
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Loqi comics are one of many types of posts that you can publish on your own site, and usually involve one or more comic image frames laid out sequentially, sometimes with characters drawn in each frame speaking to each other https://indieweb.org/comic
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barpthewire Hello guys, I came across indieweb a vew days ago and was imediately exited by the idea :)
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GWG barpthewire: Welcome aboard
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barpthewire Just started implementing my own page (so much to do)
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barpthewire Thanks GWG, looking forward to the challenges
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GWG Well, we always hope that as the community grows, the challenges lessen as more people can help.
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barpthewire I am sure this will happen but as I am a hobby programmer I can not compeed with some of the pages linked in the wiki
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GWG barpthewire: I am not a professional programmer. My job is in an entirely different field. So there are people in the community in a similar boat as hobbyist.
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barpthewire Oh that is good news I thougt I would be a total stranger if I join ;)
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Loqi [indieweb] "“With the new WordPress Editor the blocks will be all about bringing together building blocks from all over — maps, videos, galleries, forms, images —" by Kevin Marks on 2017-03-11 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/with-the-new-wordpress-editor-the-blocks-will-be-all
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sknebel barpthewire: welcome! If you have an questions or feedback, we are here ;)
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barpthewire Thank you sknebel, I am sure there will come up a lot of questions once I got my first draft out
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jkphl hello indieweb!
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Loqi jkphl: tantek left you a message on 2016-12-09 at 3:45am UTC: is there a photo for this week's HWC Nürnberg?
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Loqi jkphl: tantek left you a message on 2016-12-30 at 11:45pm UTC: when is the first HWC Nürnberg of 2017? 2017-01-04? 2017-01-11? 18? 25? Can you add/confirm on indieweb.org/events ? Thanks!
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Loqi jkphl: tantek left you a message on 2017-02-02 at 2:31am UTC: is there a HWC Nürnberg next week?
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jkphl wanted to let you know that i've put together a litte one pager for the two consecutive indiewebcamps in may in germany: http://indiewebweek.indieweb.org
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Loqi IndieWebWeek 2017 http://indiewebweek.indieweb.org/img/iwc-logo.svg
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jkphl please get in touch with me if you fancy joining us on the train ride from düsseldorf to nuremberg as we will order the tickets very soon
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jkphl also, if you want to attend one or both of the camps and cannot afford it yourself, you might want to read about the travel assistance fund marc and i were able to establish http://indiewebweek.indieweb.org/#travel-assistance-fund
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jkphl it would be great to see some of you folks at either of the camps (or both!) :)
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sknebel hi jkphl! great work! I hope I can make it to both :)
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jkphl sknebel: yay! \o/
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Loqi ?
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jkphl sknebel: let me know if you need help finding a place to stay or anything (i might accommodate a few people at my home - aaronpk will probably stay there)
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jkphl on another note, maybe stupid question (not really knowing what i'm talking about): is there something like a official XMDP profiles for microformats 2? +tantek
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sknebel k, will do (potentially sharing a hotel room with Martijn, but he isn't sure if he can make it yet)
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jkphl sknebel: (y) just let me know if i can do sth for you!
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sknebel jkphl++ :)
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aaronpk jkphl++
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jkphl can anyone confirm that "http://microformats.org/profile/" is still the proposed RDF URI prefix for µm2 (as per http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-rdf)?
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aaronpk jkphl: might want to drop that question in #microformats
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jkphl aaronpk: you're probably right, thanks!
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Zegnat jkphl, nice to see you were able to put up a travel assistance fund! Though I don't think I would ever make a request from it myself.
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jkphl Zegnat: well, if no one applies, marc and i will likely go and spend it all on beer afterwards ;D so, why wait?
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jkphl Zegnat: (however, we'd definitely favour applications from underrepresented groups ... just saying ;))
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Zegnat "hetero, white, cis and male", only one of those does not apply to me. Which is why I would prefer for funds to go someone who matches even less of those words. Main reason why I wouldn't put in a request, don't want to compete with people who'd need it more.
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jkphl Zegnat: accepted ;)
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Zegnat I do hope I can come in May. I will be back in Sweden next week, planning my studies. If the schedule allows, I will plan IWC ASAP :D
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@EddieHinkle @schmarty I just attempted my first IndieWeb Event RSVP. If you could let me know if it worked ? (twitter.com/_/status/840655179338924034)
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martymcguire[m] i really need to get RSVP displays up on my posts >_<
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snarfed !tell tantek happy birthday!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@schmarty Your < 10min update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for Mar 4-10, 2017. https://martymcgui.re/2017/03/11/165411/ (twitter.com/_/status/840683998619799552)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • March 4th - 10th, 2017" https://martymcgui.re/2017/03/11/165411/
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@huffduffer This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • March 4th - 10th, 2017 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/396432 (twitter.com/_/status/840685860521689092)
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[kevinmarks] Do I need to reauth inkstone with known known?
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[kevinmarks] I don't have syndication targets
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Loqi [indieweb] "Clearly my #indieweb worldview is taking over. I only just realised that #sxsw is this weekend. I'm in NE Yorkshire #YxNE" by Kevin Marks on 2017-03-11 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/clearly-my-indieweb-worldview-is-taking-over-i-only-just
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@kevinmarks Clearly my #indieweb worldview is taking over. I only just realised that #sxsw is this weekend. I'm in NE Yorkshire #YxNE (twitter.com/_/status/840701472002076672)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Replacing Baïkal with Radicale" by Peter Molnar on 2017-01-26 https://petermolnar.net/replacing-baikal-with-radicale-for-carrdav-and-caldav
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@TerminalPixel Day 67 of #100DaysOfCode: Updated my #indieweb micropub chatbot to use my updated micropub-helper library http://postrchildbot.tpxl.io/ (twitter.com/_/status/840710603639541761)
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