#indieweb 2017-04-02

2017-04-02 UTC
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GWG Evening
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sknebel good evening GWG!
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GWG Good evening, sknebel. Anything of interest there?
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sknebel I fixed micropub on my site -> some filesystem permission issues mostly
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sknebel and now I'm playing with flexbox
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GWG That's good.
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GWG I've been trying to get some house stuff done so I can work on Indieweb stuff.
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GWG So, I'm brainstorming as I do those things.
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sknebel also good
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GWG I was thinking of posting some posts on my vision of what I want to do.
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sknebel sounds good. especially if it is about the WP plugins, you then can get early feedback from your users ;)
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sknebel I'm trying to write more of my indieweb ideas/thoughts down as well
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sknebel started with the HWC notes, but now trying to expand on some of that
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GWG Some of my bigger ideas are a bit well...big.
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GWG I could not easily do them alone.
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GWG For example, WordPress has a bunch of open tickets that I think would form a good foundation for improving comments, which is their structure for any type of response.
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sknebel that sounds like something where writing it out would be useful. both to think it through yourself again (at least for me that's when the "duhh" moments happen), and to have clear basis for following discussions
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GWG Well, the problem with WordPress unlike a custom or smaller platform is that it is so big. It's hard to turn the ship and to get people behind an idea as a newcomer.
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sknebel right. I guess presenting a vision has the risk that people might disagree with it, and then are less inclined to look into changes than they would be if one quietly works towards less explained chnages. politics :/
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GWG Well, parts of it, people seem to agree with. But trying to build consensus. Right now, WordPress, per order of the head of the project, has moved from a set release cycle to a set of three focuses: REST API, Editor, and Customizer.
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GWG So, if it isn't in there, you can write it, and hope someone wants to merge it when a milestone is met for one of the focuses.
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GWG Makes it a bit harder.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Missing the point Medium at $5 per month" by Keith Parkins on 2017-04-01 https://medium.com/medium-collection/missing-the-point-medium-at-5-per-month-afb2ace8a54c?source=rss------creative_commons-5
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miklb GWG could just fork WordPress ?
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GWG miklb: Not going there, I think. Be more aggressive in a plugin, possibly.
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miklb lol. Wasn't a serious suggestion.
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GWG Well, I like a challenge.
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miklb only thing of a bigger challenge might be to write a blog engine/CMS from scratch. And I've been down that road with a community.
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GWG miklb: I have been trying to change minds at my place of business in different roles for 13 years. I don't give up so easily.
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miklb Consider me an ally in lobbying the powers that be in WP land these days.
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GWG Well, as I wrote a while ago, I'm thinking of writing up some proposals on my site for some Indieweb adjacent ideas.
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[chrisaldrich] !tell schmarty The link in this week's podcast points to last week's newsletter; keep up the good work!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG Hi, [chrisaldrich]
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[chrisaldrich] Howdy GWG.
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[chrisaldrich] finally quiet enough to do some writing and coding...
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GWG Working on it.
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GWG Or rather, handling some paperwork so I can do that
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Loqi [superfeedr] "? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/
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@ChrisAldrich ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th - 31st, 2017 #edtech http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/ (twitter.com/_/status/848393882073223169)
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[chrisaldrich] What is Indieweb paperwork?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Indieweb paperwork" yet. Would you like to create it?
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[chrisaldrich] ?
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GWG This isn't Indieweb, it is me paying my taxes
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GWG Trying to get it done so I can write a post
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[chrisaldrich] Don't remind me... I have to finish mine up this week too..
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GWG I want to write out a vision of the future of comments, users, and posts in an Indieweb world.
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martymcguire[m] I had message?
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martymcguire[m] Haha thanks chrisaldrich! I posted in a hurry. Will fix probably tomorrow
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Loqi martymcguire[m]: lol
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[chrisaldrich] schmarty I figured maybe you just copied the week before and started editing... I do something like that at least twice a week.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017 by Scalar Humanity" by Scalar Humanity on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/#comment-34291
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017 by Michael Kirk" by Michael Kirk on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/#comment-34292
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017 by Michael Kirk" by Michael Kirk on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/#comment-34293
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017 by PersonaLearn" by PersonaLearn on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/#comment-34294
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017 by Vinson Consulting" by Vinson Consulting on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/#comment-34295
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017 by Stanford Chapman" by Stanford Chapman on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/#comment-34296
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@grantcodes Day 82 of #100DaysOfCode: I now correctly append query variables to urls in my #indieweb micropub helper https://github.com/grantcodes/micropub (twitter.com/_/status/848432481917448192)
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@rMdes_ L'IndieWeb: avoir son propre site web. Pourquoi? Comment? #bruxelles : https://www.meetup.com/HWC-Brussels/events/238876215/ (twitter.com/_/status/848508948097495040)
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@armadalive L'IndieWeb: avoir son propre site web. Pourquoi? Comment? #bruxelles : https://www.meetup.com/HWC-Brussels/events/238876215/ (twitter.com/_/status/848508949938786308)
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@HwcBrussels L'IndieWeb: avoir son propre site web. Pourquoi? Comment? #bruxelles : https://www.meetup.com/HWC-Brussels/events/238876215/ (twitter.com/_/status/848508951645782016)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "L'IndieWeb: avoir son propre site web. Pourquoi? Comment? #bruxelles" by Ricardo Mendes on 2017-04-02 https://www.meetup.com/HWC-Brussels/events/238876215/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition, March 25th – 31st, 2017 by Michael Kirk" by Michael Kirk on 2017-04-02 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/01/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-march-25th-31st-2017/#comment-34304
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voxpelli Now that Upcoming.org is launched and the code is open – has anyone looked at having it consume h-event etc?
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Loqi voxpelli: tantek left you a message 3 days, 15 hours ago: hey because you're recognized in IRC (probably due to being signed in and /irc-people) can you make it to any of the dates here? add yourself! https://indieweb.org/Planning#Summit
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voxpelli What is upcoming.org?
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Loqi Upcoming, also known as Upcoming.org, is a social event sharing silo https://indieweb.org/Upcoming.org
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voxpelli ^ some good brainstorming on that page, would be neat to have it index HWC h-event:s
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tantek definitely! if you think of more ideas please add them!
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@calum_ryan ? It's Homebrew Website Club London this week! RSVP: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-04-05-homebrew-website-club See you there? @barryf @hobbsy @loopdouble @hotzeplotz (twitter.com/_/status/848611369444356097)
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GWG Hello, Gregorlove. Was just talking about you
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gRegorLove Uh oh
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GWG Someone asked for travel advice and I was talking about the hotel room snafu at last year's summit
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gRegorLove Ah, yes
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GWG How are your efforts proceeding?
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gRegorLove Do you think you'll make it to the summit this year?
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GWG I'd like to. There are two dates I saw now. It depends. The later one is probably easier for me.
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gRegorLove Cool. Those dates seem to be leading.
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gRegorLove By 0.5, looks like. Heh
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GWG Well the others are right after Memorial Day weekend
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gRegorLove !tell tantek Do you want to update /planning#Summit so the two leading sets of dates are more prominent, or leave them all?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG It has been a light Indiewebcamp year so far
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gRegorLove Well I think we learned after last year not to do NYC in January :)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on How I Set Up My Indieweb WordPress Site by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-03-29 https://david.shanske.com/2014/10/02/site-setup/#comment-3589
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[chrisaldrich] Glad to see it's not just my site, but apparently a WordPress-ish issue to SuperFeedr to Loqi.
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aaronpk yeah, it's superfeedr doing a good job of finding and crawling all the feeds it can find
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aaronpk and wordpress just happens to publish feeds for comments on posts
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[chrisaldrich] I tried some code to turn off my comments feed the other day (at least until I can tweak the RSS feed more significantly directly), but there's a few quirks that have apparently changed since WP 4.4 which I have to read up on.
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gRegorLove aaronpk: As we're getting Bellingham IWC details finalized, can we set up something like 2017.indieweb.org/Bellingham?
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gRegorLove With the ti.to registrations, etc.
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aaronpk yes i should be able to copy the nyc2 event pretty easily
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gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/images/2/2d/indiewebcamp-sponsorship-prospectus.pdf could use the new logo
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aaronpk yeah i hav ea handlful of updates to do on that
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aaronpk oms i just noticed chrisaldrich sent me a PR ages ago for the LA IWC
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aaronpk i don't know how i dropped the ball on that
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aaronpk Thinking I might need to up the number of posts I show in lists. My home page is almost entirely checkins right now
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