#indieweb 2017-05-23

2017-05-23 UTC
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tantek what is JSON feed
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "JSON feed" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek oops wrong channel. heading to #dev
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aaronpk i keep getting confused when i read stuff like this in the backscroll: "another problem: micropub renders at write time"
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aaronpk i guess that's talking about the micropub wordpress plugin?
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miklb yes
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GWG aaronpk, yes. It generates html at time of post creation as opposed to at time of display
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aaronpk good so youre not talking about the spec then :)
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dougbeal aaronpk: is the OwnYourGram repo ready to run?
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aaronpk I think so
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aaronpk probaly not super great docs for that tho
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dougbeal aaronpk: I'm putting together a wordpress docker system, to make it easier to track and fix bugs
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aaronpk Ah nice
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dougbeal aaronpk: is it using a framework or anything? Or is just composer/php all the necesssary?
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aaronpk Running composer install will install all the libraries it needs
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aaronpk it uses MySQL as well, the schema file should be up to date
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dougbeal aaronpk: is there a secret file for database login connections?
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dougbeal aaronpk: n/m, found it
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aaronpk I should really get in the habit of making a quick list of installation instructions for these things
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Loqi I agree
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KartikPrabhu Loqi has spoken!
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dougbeal o/ goodnight indieweb
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[jeremycherfas] What is YATFF?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "YATFF" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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aaronpk just got home, about to sleep :-)
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Zegnat Sleep well then aaronpk!
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cweiske now his phone pings him because you pinged him and he's awake again :/
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Zegnat If I did, we will be able to see it on the sleep graph in ~ 8 hours https://aaronparecki.com/sleep
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cweiske I don't understand those lines and colors
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Ruxton cweiske: they're saved from fitbit I think, left-most-side is start of sleep, right-most end of sleep, dark blue = sleep, light blue peaks = restless, red = awake
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[kevinmarks] Not fitbit, the other one
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Zegnat Oh, colour me surprised, the feed service I use now supports JSON Feeds: https://feedbin.com/blog/2017/05/22/feedbin-supports-json-feed/
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cweiske "JSON Feed will help alleviate these problems, because it’s easier to get right."
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cweiske XML feeds are broken if they are generated by hand instead of using an xml serializer
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cweiske so if you write the json feed by hand you have the same problem
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cweiske doesn't change anything
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KartikPrabhu sounds like a problem with XML feeds
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cweiske no, it's a people problem.
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KartikPrabhu not really.
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cweiske if people think they can do it by hand and it fails, it's their fault for not using a lib that serializes correctly
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cweiske same for json.
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KartikPrabhu yes, so make writing a feed simpler
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KartikPrabhu not hide it under serializers
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cweiske ? how is json easier to write? you need a json serializer, too
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KartikPrabhu I know how to write code and I mess up my feed generating code too
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KartikPrabhu cweiske: not defending JSON :)
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KartikPrabhu any sidefile would have the same problems
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[kevinmarks] Json is easier to serialise to than xml, because it is closer to language structures in dynamic languages
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[kevinmarks] But it's just as fragile.
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[kevinmarks] You have fewer escaping issues
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KartikPrabhu [kevinmarks]: that only means that languages have JSON serialisation done but don't boter with XML
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[kevinmarks] No, with xml you need to make choices about what is an element and what is an attribute, that don't map well to language objects
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cweiske KartikPrabhu, PHP has had xml serialization long before json_encode was there. people didn't use it for feeds.
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[kevinmarks] I used it for xoxo
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cweiske I made a generalization that of course does not apply to everyone
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[kevinmarks] Php is weirder in that you can make a php file as an xml template, and it will work until escaping screws it up
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cweiske you could do the same with json
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[kevinmarks] Hm. You could, but that feels weird. Php naturally teaches you to make html pages that way, so xml ones seem like a variation
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cweiske that sounds like a probable explanation
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[kevinmarks] It's more of an affordance thing.
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[kevinmarks] Json is legal syntax in python and javascript, so it feels more natural there somehow
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[kevinmarks] In java, both are alien so are wrapped up in an abstraction necessarily
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Zegnat I am a little tempted to try and make a JSON Feed that will crash JSON parsers.
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[kevinmarks] Will it have platypuses in? http://www.diveintomark.link/2003/how-to-consume-rss-safely
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Loqi [markpilgrim] How to consume RSS safely
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cweiske oh. diveintomark is now a known-based site.
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@voxpelli @feedbin @jsonfeed Any chance you can support the h-feed microformat as well? https://indieweb.org/h-feed There are goo… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866938415820013573 (twitter.com/_/status/866938415820013573)
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j4y_funabashi morning all
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@ambrwlsn90 My experience of IndieWebCamp Nürnberg ☺️ ?- https://amberwilson.co.uk/blog/indiewebcamp/ @nueww @IndieWebCampDE @indiewebcamp #nueww (twitter.com/_/status/866940249242558464)
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], I would just take every JSON test that resulted in a crash and try to put them under an extension "_crash":{…}. http://seriot.ch/parsing_json.php
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petermolnar [kevinmarks] re how to consume rss safely: convert the content to markdown with pandoc and back to html.
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@FreeToWatch_TV Demos - IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf 2017 - https://freetowatch.tv/video-posts/live-streams/live-technology-streams/demos-indiewebcamp-dusseldorf-2017/ https://twitter.com/FreeToWatch_TV/status/866957263818313732/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/866957263818313732)
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@jgmac1106 @pfefferle @dshanske Do you know if these only work on #indieweb approved themes? No matter how much I hack at func… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866964185405698048 (twitter.com/_/status/866964185405698048)
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Zegnat Jeena, is HWC Gbg still a thing?
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Jeena It was a long time ago we had one, mostly because not a lot of people were attending and then I didn't have the time and nobody asked about it so I didn't quite have the incentive to do something.
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Zegnat Asking because I am back in Sweden. Of course not sure how regular I would be able to do the Gbg trip. But it would be nice to get some IndieWeb going again
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Jeena yeah, perhaps we could start joining the virtual one there is somewhere first?
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Zegnat What is virtual HWC?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "virtual HWC" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Jeena What is remote HWC?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "remote HWC" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Jeena hm
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Zegnat Virtual HWC is an online [[HWC]] for IndieWebbers who either can’t make a regular meeting or don’t yet have critical mass to host one in their area.
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Loqi ok
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Zegnat Stole that description
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Zegnat from https://indieweb.org/events/2016-12-14-homebrew-website-club#Virtual
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petermolnar I'm all in for virtual hwcs
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jeremycherfas Kevinmarks is that platypus thing part of the RSS/Atom wars I keep reading about?
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Zegnat Jeena, petermolnar, any platforms you would prefer for virtual HWC?
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petermolnar talky.io, maybe
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petermolnar that way anyone can join
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Jeena yeah
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Jeena https://appear.in/ is basically the same
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Jeena and which language? ;)
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Zegnat I propose everyone just speaks their own native language?
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Zegnat More importantly: what timezone do we pin the start and end time to? CEST?
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petermolnar CEST is fine, though I seriously prefer to use UTC whenever possible
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petermolnar especially for online events
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petermolnar no daylight saving time, no questions
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Zegnat HWC is defined as a meeting “every other Wednesday right after work, 18:30-19:30.” We could do 18:30 UTC, 18:30 CET, 18:30 CEST, loads of possibilities for the EU audience.
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petermolnar that's not what I meant
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petermolnar 18:30 CEST/CET is OK, but write 17:30 UTC :)
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Zegnat Makes sense ?
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jeremycherfas I’ll be up for a virtual IWC too.
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jeremycherfas In EU
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Jeena do you guys have events on your websites and rsvps?
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Zegnat I write all my HTML for posts by hand, so I can RSVP (and have done so before)
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Zegnat Can’t host the event
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petermolnar Jeena I don't
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Jeena I could host it then
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jeremycherfas I think I can do an RSVP from my Known site.
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Zegnat I am just adding it to the wiki as one we are trying to get started
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Virtual_HWC_.E2.80.9CEuropean_time.E2.80.9D
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Zegnat Apparently it is 16:30 UTC, petermolnar, because of summer time ;)
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petermolnar true
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Zegnat I put all our names as organisers, if for whatever reason you don’t feel like that label applies to you, feel free to remove your name
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petermolnar (we could use swatch internet beats, just to see how many remembers :D)
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, yes, I think Known supports RSVPs out of the box
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petermolnar 16:30 UTC -> @729
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Zegnat Why are those beats pinned to UTC+1 and not just UTC, petermolnar... That makes no sense to me.
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petermolnar https://xkcd.com/927/
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Loqi [XKCD] Standards https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
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Zegnat Right, almost forgot :p
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@adactioLinks Amber Wilson: IndieWebCamp https://amberwilson.co.uk/blog/indiewebcamp/ (twitter.com/_/status/866988878921695232)
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cweiske jeremycherfas, your blog does not have machine-readable links to your atom feed. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(standard)#Including_in_HTML for an example how to add the link
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jeremycherfas Thanks cweiske; to you mean stream.jeremycherfas.net or jeremycherfas.net
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cweiske https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog
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jeremycherfas I really need to remember that Safari refuses to open feeds.
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jeremycherfas Cweiske Does this not work https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog.atom
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cweiske this does work. but I pasted your blog's address in my feed reader, and it was unable to find out the blog.atom link itself
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jeremycherfas Ah. I didn’t realise that. Thanks. I will look into it. Just need to finish some work.
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Zegnat Jeena, petermolnar, jeremycherfas, should we try virtual hwc for /next-hwc? That would be the 31st.
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petermolnar works for me
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jeremycherfas I think I can manage that.
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jeremycherfas No guarantees though.
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Zegnat I’ll just add it to the wiki for that day then, so people can add their names if interested :)
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/next-hwc now has Virtual HWC European time
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cweiske jeremycherfas, your atom feed is broken. there is a webmention link at the beginning
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jeremycherfas Cweiske Do you mean this <link href="https://www.jeremycherfas.net/mentions" rel="webmention" /><?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
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cweiske yes
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cweiske remove that link
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cweiske so that the file begins with <?xml again
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jeremycherfas I have no idea where tht is coming from. Probably the Grav plugin that makes the feed.
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jeremycherfas I’ll look.
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jeremycherfas About 10 minutes to finish this work. :)
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cweiske or a plugin that adds webmention links everywhere
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cweiske including the feed
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jeremycherfas Yes, that is also possible!
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Jeena Zegnat, 31. would work for me too
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Zegnat Nice Jeena! If you want to make an Indie event out of it on your website go ahead. Lets just get this rolling :)
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jeremycherfas Can someone answer a github question. At IWC I had to create a completely new local install of my site on my laptop. I just did this locally, not on Github. Now I want to put everything onto the desktop machine.
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Zegnat voxpelli, I updated my status on a Malmö IWC, /planning. Though I am guessing the chances of that going down are lessening by the day
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jeremycherfas Do I clone the repository to Github from mylaptop?
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jeremycherfas Or do I create a new repository at github, copy everything into it and then clone it back into the laptop and the desktop machines?
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cweiske 1. create repo at github
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cweiske 2. git init on your laptop, then "git remote add origin $githuburl" && git push
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cweiske then clone on desktop
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jeremycherfas Thanks. I’ll try that.
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voxpelli Zegnat: I actually talked to a local conference organizer about possibly doing an IWC in connection to that conference, http://confront.se/, but haven't followed it up :/
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Zegnat No worries. If you want me to assist on anything you know where to find me. August is a bit iffy for me (possible exam the 17th, school year starts 28th) but most weekends should be fine.
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voxpelli Zegnat: cool, I should follow up with the dates, that conference + see if there are some international interest
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Zegnat Internationally might be competing with http://indieweb.org/Planning#Brighton Polling for interest is definitely good. But hard to do without any dates :( vicious circle.
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voxpelli Yeah, so might mainly be europeans that would attend
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voxpelli Maybe the conference can pay some to come and speak at the conference and then attend the camp afterwards
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voxpelli But would need to check that more
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Zegnat I lack that network I’m afraid, so can’t take that off your shoulders
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jeremycherfas_ Cweiske You were right. It is the plugin that inserts the webmention link. Now to find out where it does that.
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dougbeal|mb1 'morn, IW
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sebsel I saw a European time Virtual HWC for 31th of May in the logs: I'm interested!
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sebsel notes in iCal
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sebsel What happened to the combined Where+RSVP of /events/2017-05-17-homebrew-website-club ?
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sknebel sebsel: I think 31. was created before that happened
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sknebel and nobody has changed it yet
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Zegnat Oh, I didn’t actually check that, sorry. Just added to whatever was on 31st and changes /next-hwc to 31st.
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sebsel Hm, I haven't got the time now, but it might be nice to transfer the new layout :)
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Zegnat I’ll have a lookk
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Zegnat Oh, I see, several minor tweakings to the layout and order.
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Jeena Zegnat, petermolnar jeremycherfas https://jeena.net/events/25
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Loqi Virtual Homebrew Website Club https://jeena.net/system/events/header_images/000/000/025/big/indiewebcamp-logo-lockup-color_3x.png?1495546707
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Zegnat We are doing the quiet writing hour, Jeena? How are we doing that one virtually?
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Zegnat RSVP’d :)
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Jeena nice! But no avatar? :(
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Jeena hehe I don't know, it's optional, even if it's quiet it still might be used to ask questions etc.
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Loqi *sniff*
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Zegnat Hmm, don’t know why I don’t have a display picture, Jeena. Where do you get my author info from?
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Jeena from https://licit.li/5924485904ada
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Zegnat Hmm. Guess you don’t follow the rel="author". Wonder if I made another mark-up mistake.
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Zegnat files an issue in his mind
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sknebel xray finds your photo from that
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Zegnat Jeena, looks right to me: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https://licit.li/5924485904ada . You might be mistakingly using the hcard on that site. For authorship on the h-entry you have to follow the rel="author" URL to vanderven.se/martijn/ and parse the h-card that is there
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Zegnat That will get you my display picture
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Zegnat Jeena, for reference: https://licit.li/59170c37dcea1 ;)
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dougbeal|mb1 Do .ics files not have time zone info?
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Zegnat What is ics?
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Loqi ICS (AKA iCal or iCalendar file / feed) is a format for calendar files (a form of feed file) used by many programs such as Apple Calendar and Google Calendar, and can be used to share and subscribe to calendars across different systems https://indieweb.org/ICS
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Jeena Yeah, Zegnat, I'm using the ruby-microformats gem which doesn't follow to a different http resource
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Zegnat Strictly, the gem would be right in that. This has to do with authorship discovery, which is IndieWeb tech but not specifically microformats: https://indieweb.org/authorship
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Zegnat I am glad to see your website found a name at all then!
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Zegnat dougbeal|mb1: the ICS file on Jeena’s website contains a timezone
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dougbeal|mb1 Zegnat: looks like OSX Calendar doesn't like it unless DSTART and DEND reference the time zone as well
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Zegnat That could be. ICS is... fun? I don’t remember who had a big discussion about it before, maybe aaronpk and bear
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dougbeal|mb1 Yeah, works fine with google calendar directly
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Jeena hm weird, I think I developed it with the osx calendar back then
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voxpelli <3 ICS
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dougbeal|mb1 There is a enable timezone checkbox in Calendar, maybe with it turned off it ignores everything about timezones?
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sebsel Jeena I RSVP'ed! And it did find my pic :)
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sebsel You actually need some authorship discovery for aaronpk's RSVPs too. He uses '/' as u-author, last time I checked, so you have to fetch that one for his picture and name.
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aaronpk you can match the URL to the h-card on the page, you don't need to make a separate HTTP request for mine
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sebsel Ah! Didn't know that.
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sebsel Authorship is hard still.
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aaronpk yeah it's a bit of a trick. it's well documented though
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jeremycherfas What does it mean when an object contains a #, like this #uri: "/grav-admin/blog/there-s-no-success-like-failure" ?
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Zegnat jeremycherfas: what kind of object?
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jeremycherfas It’s the result of a dump of a variable on my site.
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jeremycherfas The whole thing is ````
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jeremycherfas Grav\Common\Uri {#65
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jeremycherfas +url: "http://localhost:8888/grav-admin/blog/there-s-no-success-like-failure"
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jeremycherfas #base: "http://localhost:8888"
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KartikPrabhu looks like adactio added JSONfeed https://adactio.com/links/12318
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jeremycherfas #basename: "there-s-no-success-like-failure"
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Loqi [Jeremy Keith] JSON Feed: Home May 23rd, 2017 RSS isn’t dead, but it has metamorphosed into JSON. I don’t know if syndication feeds have yet taken on their final form, but they’re the canonical example of 927ing. Anyway, I’ve gone ahead and adde...
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jeremycherfas #bits: null
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jeremycherfas #content_path: "blog/there-s-no-success-like-failure"
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jeremycherfas #extension: "html"
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jeremycherfas #host: "localhost"
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jeremycherfas #env: "localhost"
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jeremycherfas #params: []
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jeremycherfas #path: "/blog/there-s-no-success-like-failure"
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jeremycherfas #paths: array:2 [
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jeremycherfas 0 => "blog"
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jeremycherfas 1 => "there-s-no-success-like-failure"
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jeremycherfas ]
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jeremycherfas #scheme: "http://"
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jeremycherfas #port: "8888"
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jeremycherfas #query: []
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jeremycherfas #fragment: null
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jeremycherfas #root: "http://localhost:8888/grav-admin"
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jeremycherfas #root_path: "/grav-admin"
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jeremycherfas #uri: "/grav-admin/blog/there-s-no-success-like-failure"
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jeremycherfas +"name": "localhost"
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jeremycherfas }
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jeremycherfas Oh dear. Sorry about that.
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miklb whoa
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jeremycherfas I’ll make a gist
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Zegnat Yikes. That might have better gone in a gist.github.com
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Zegnat If you make a gist and go to -dev I will take a look
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ben_thatmustbeme websub.rocks test suite is done, if people could start running tests for your publishing, subscribing, or hubs it would really help
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jeremycherfas The gist is here https://gist.github.com/jeremycherfas/090b46b33463e5d74f633a023b7d4c56
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KartikPrabhu what is JSONfeed?
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Loqi jsonfeed is a feed file in JSON format https://indieweb.org/jsonfeed
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KartikPrabhu adactio: could you add your usage to https://indieweb.org/jsonfeed as Indieweb example? there was quite the debate about JSONfeen?
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adactio Sure.
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, I don’t recognise that. Is that var_dump or something else?
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KartikPrabhu :thumbsup:
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adactio Done.
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KartikPrabhu thanks!
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@thoughtkettle @ivana_isadora Also relevant and a long-standing initiative: https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/867076162543128576)
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gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
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Zegnat Good morning gRegorLove
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GWG Afternoon
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gRegorLove o/ GWG
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cweiske aaronpk, do you still have live comment updates?
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cweiske apparently not. but it seems it takes some time until comments are displayed, even when manually refreshing
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cweiske aaronpk, do you manually approve comments now?
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dougbeal|mb1 o/ gRegorLove, GWG
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aaronpk No it just runs thru webmention.io so it takes a few seconds
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cweiske then something is broken
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cweiske https://commentpara.de/comment/84.htm was > 5min ago
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Loqi [Anonymous] It would be nice if the colors and lines would be explained somewhere.
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cweiske err
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cweiske https://commentpara.de/comment/85.htm i mean
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Loqi [Anonymous] Welcome back home!
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aaronpk What's wrong?
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aaronpk I see it on my site
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cweiske *now*
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cweiske I didn't for 5 minutes
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cweiske I wanted to do a split screen demo
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cweiske posting from tt-rss and instantly seeing it pop up in the other browser window on your site
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aaronpk Hm it shouldn't be that slow, I would have thought maybe 20 seconds tops
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cweiske GWG, skippy, demo time: http://tmp.cweiske.de/ttrss-micropub.mp4
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cweiske posting is smoothy ajax now, actually usable
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aaronpk Whoa that looks great
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aaronpk cweiske++
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[cleverdevil] Nice job, cweiske!
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[cleverdevil] cweiske++
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[cleverdevil] Way nicer than what I did for Nextcloud News ?
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aaronpk I might have to look into what's making the comment take so long to show up just so these demos look better
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miklb what is ttrss
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ttrss" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sknebel what is tt-rss?
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Loqi tt-rss is an open source, self-hosted feed reader https://indieweb.org/tt-rss
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sknebel cweiske++
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gRegorLove ttrss is /Tiny_Tiny_RSS
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Loqi ok
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miklb cweiske is that a public plugin yet, sorry missed earlier conversation.
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KartikPrabhu ttrss is /tt-rss
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KartikPrabhu aww too late
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KartikPrabhu what is ttrss
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Loqi tt-rss is an open source, self-hosted feed reader https://indieweb.org/ttrss
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KartikPrabhu oh :P
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skippy cweiske++
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skippy that looks awesome.
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cweiske miklb, not public yet
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miklb cweiske gotcha!
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cweiske i'm creating a repo now
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miklb I'm going to run a test install locally to get feel for it. Might need to customize the UI a little for my tastes.
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cweiske https://git.cweiske.de/tt-rss-micropub.git
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cweiske there it is
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miklb cweiske++
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sknebel new location features at snapchat: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/snapchat-map-stories/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Micropub is a W3C Recommendation" by Maria Auday on 2017-05-23 https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/6326?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=micropub-is-a-w3c-recommendation
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aaronpk well looks like someone uses websub
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tantek superfeedr also polls
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aaronpk it's not on the home page yet but it's in the news blog!
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tantek is it on the news home page?
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aaronpk it's on https://www.w3.org/blog/news/
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@derhess Hey @indiewebcamp and #Berlin, I blogged about our last Homebrew Website Club Meeting #7 http://derhess.de/2017/05/23/notes-from-the-homebrew-website-club-7-in-berlin/ #onboarding #webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/867133869040041985)
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miklb !tell cweiske got an error on init, not sure where to log errors/issues with ttrss micropub plugin
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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schmarty aaronpk++ congrats on micropub landing as a W3C Recommendation!
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schmarty woah, AS2 also landed today
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GWG I think it is time to open. WordPress ticket proposing integration that people will ignore
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tantek for Micropub? yes
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GWG tantek, yes.
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GWG I meant Micropub.
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GWG Webmention has had a WordPress ticket for a while
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[colinwalker] So many people want XML-RPC killed for security and REST API is proprietary so it would make a lot of sense.
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tantek for real
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GWG They won't kill it so easily
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GWG But Indieauth isn't a specification yet though
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aaronpk that's true, although people are already making micropub clients that get the access token from some other mechanism, such as copypasting an "api key" from an account settings page
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GWG aaronpk, and the REST API should have an oauth provider this year according to their plans
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GWG But I will write out the case for WordPress after dinner
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aaronpk that's interesting, maybe i could take a look to see how that could fit in
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aaronpk can you point me to where the oauth provider stuff is being discussed?
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GWG Anyone have any ideas in that area? Arguments?
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aaronpk it's very likely that at the point that wordpress is its own OAuth provider, then adding the IndieAuth bits is very simple
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GWG Aaronpk, on my phone right now waiting for a meeting, but they are thinking of having WordPress.org handle it for people who don't want to do it themselves.
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aaronpk interesting
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GWG I actually thought of writing an authentication provider for Indieauth
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GWG The current Indieauth login for WordPress can't be used for everything
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GWG That would separate that from Micropub if implemented correctly
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GWG I did the research. But too many projects right now
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GWG I am contemplating something right now
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@bltavares @samirsalimjr @rodrigomaia17 Um dia eu arranjo tempo pra federar todos meus conteúdos estilo POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/867140345158619137)
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tantek GWG do you support WebSub publishing on your site?
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GWG Not yet
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tantek It's "just" adding a plugin right?
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derhess we
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Standards: W3C Recommendation of Micropub Published" by Gary Price on 2017-05-23 http://www.infodocket.com/2017/05/23/standards-w3c-recommendation-of-micropub-published/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "? Facebook blocks Pulitzer-winning reporter over Malta government exposé | The Guardian" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-23 http://boffosocko.com/2017/05/22/facebook-blocks-pulitzer-winning-reporter-over-malta-government-expose-the-guardian/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-23 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-34701
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: If you need/want it, here's the WebSub WordPress plugin https://wordpress.org/plugins/pubsubhubbub/ pfefferle updated it about two weeks ago btw.
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Loqi [Matthias Pfefferle] Download WebSub/PubSubHubbub By Matthias Pfefferle Details Reviews Installation Support Development ...
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tantek [chrisaldrich]: are you running it? Do you think you could submit an implementation report for it as a WebSub publisher by trying the publisher tests here? https://websub.rocks/
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@ummjackson I dig some of the IndieWeb stuff happening but can't stand Microformats at all. Why are we parsing HTML => JSON for use? Ridiculous. (twitter.com/_/status/867153557249638400)
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KartikPrabhu eh!?
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GWG I have not tried pfefferle's plugin since pre Websub
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GWG [Chrisaldrich]: Did you try the new Indieweb plugin
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dougbeal|mb1 Is pubsubhubbub newer vs PuSHPress?
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KartikPrabhu what is pushpress?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pushpress" yet. Would you like to create it?
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dougbeal|mb1 I'm getting HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized, could it be that Authorization headers are getting stripped?
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dougbeal|mb1 What does OwnYourGram use?
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dougbeal|mb1 801 - Auth in POST body passes
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dougbeal|mb1 what is Authorization headers
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Authorization headers" yet. Would you like to create it?
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