#indieweb 2017-07-08

2017-07-08 UTC
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[cleverdevil]
Hello, Indieweb, from somewhere over the Pacific Ocean.
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eli_oat1
hello [cleverdevil] from somewhere on the very edge of the Atlantic Ocean!
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@sull
@taravancil I used that a while back. Indieweb stuff is great. Thinking of using it in beaker land?
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "There is no front-end web development crisis" by Mike Sugarbaker on 2016-06-22 http://www.gibberish.com/2016/06/22/there-is-no-front-end-web-development-crisis
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "You knew you were tired, but then where are your friends tonight?" by Mike Sugarbaker on 2014-12-03 http://www.gibberish.com/2014/12/03/you-knew-you-were-tired-but-then-where-are-your
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@johnjohnston
@c I’ve hooked up your indieweb OPML to my copy of River5 (on a raspberry pi so might be flaky). I hope as my ... http://johnjohnston.info/blog/c-ive-hooked-up-your-indieweb-opml-to-my-copy-of-river5/
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sketchess
good morning / evening
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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@martijnvdven
@taravancil Activity is growing! Some #indieweb people are now skipping RelMeAuth, allowing us to login with just o… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/883628958343979008
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sketchess
welcome
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sketchess
congratulations Zegnat :)
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sketchess
back after lunch
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Zegnat
congratulations?
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sebsel
good morning IndieWeb :)
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sketchess
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sebsel
How I decide on POSSE-targets: I type a message in Quill, and look at the character count. Under 140? Click the Twitter button. Above 140? Click the Facebook button.
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petermolnar
sebsel interesting separation; you don't count the content in at all?
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sebsel
Well, I have brid.gy/publish/facebook on public anyway, so that does not matter. And I use the text notes mostly for funny/anecdotal notes, and those can be posted anywhere.
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petermolnar
I'd guess your network is different in the two sites, isn't it?
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sebsel
haven't thought about that, but yeah, you are right
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sebsel
I get more likes on Fb too, but that's the platform culture.
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sebsel
Sometimes I do care about that feedback and choose Fb for that.
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sebsel
Truth is I sometimes start writing for Twitter and then change to Facebook because of character limits.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "> I pray that you've known this all along, you'll forgive my "indiesplain", and that I'm not catching the subtlety of your original post. [That post" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-07-08 http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/-i-pray-that-youve-known-this-all-along-youll
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jeremycherfas
Morning, Indieweb
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sketchess
welcome
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jeremycherfas
Slow afternoon.
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Zegnat
I’d like to rephrase that as easy-going afternoon :)
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sketchess
had wondered
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jeremycherfas
Zegnat: you feel free to rephrase any way you want; I’m easy going.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "The indieweb includes RSS and much more, but @davewiner is still resisting change." by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-07-06 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/the-indieweb-includes-rss-and-much-more-but-davewiner-is
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jeremycherfas
Old news, superfeedr, and it isn’t really “by” me at all.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Why the indieweb" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-07-06 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/why-the-indieweb
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aaronpk
Superfeedr seems to be getting a bit more aggressive about matching things
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aaronpk
I wonder if using superfeedr just to get the URL of the post, and then parsing the mf2 to get better data from the page
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sketchess
sneaks out hungry
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jeremycherfas
Having fun watching snarfed from IWS.
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[kevinmarks]
Interesting conversation visualization https://convopage.com/c/883602472316620801
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TimApple
been out of the loop a long time...looking to know what the eaasiest point of entry is for a non coder? Is it still known?
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tokelove[m]
As someone that's just started out and tried Wordpress - known is the easiest option :)
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TimApple
It looks like knownpro doesn't exist anymore..it's all about self hosting then?
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TimApple
How about micro.blog?
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Zegnat
I think very few of us are active micro.blog users, so hard to say, TimApple. Both Known and WordPress are good, but Known has become self-hosted only, yes.
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aaronpk
has a micro.blog account
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Zegnat
Do you actively post to it, aaronpk? Could it be used as main outlet instead of e.g. WP and Known?
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[jemostrom]
Micro.blog is Nice
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tokelove[m]
Can micro.blog be self-hosted?
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Zegnat
tokelove[m], there is some more information on https://indieweb.org/micro.blog :) Including the official answer from manton re self-hostability
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Zegnat
Looks like all examples of IndieWeb uses are of people syndicated from a main site to micro.blog though. No examples of people using micro.blog as their main outlet
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tokelove[m]
Nice. Thanks for that!
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@t
2d ago: got RSVPs working on indie events eg http://tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio thanks to #IndieWeb building blocks, ... http://tantek.com/2017/189/t1
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "2d ago: got RSVPs working on indie events eg tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio thanks to #IndieWeb building blocks, protocols, formats, services: * brid.gy * https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention * webmention.io * https://www.w3.org/TR/jf2 * stream.thatmustbe.us No Javascript needed, just one iframe." on 2017-07-08 http://tantek.com/2017/189/t1/rsvps-display-on-indie-events
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sknebel
(I can't even block multiline stuff in my IRC client, cause how is it supposed to know they belog to the line above?)
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aaronpk
Zegnat: it pulls my content from my website
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sknebel
(regardless of the fact that for some reason all my attempts to selectively block Loqi output so far have failed)
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aaronpk
so i don't have to post to it explicitly, it just mirrors all my content
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Zegnat
Yeah, but if I understood right, tokelove[m] was wondering how it measures up as primary site. As an alternative to Known and WordPress.
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Zegnat
sknebel, little you can do about this. It is a multi-line title to a post.
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sknebel
Zegnat: how about stripping newlines? cut of everything after the second? ...
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Zegnat
Might work. Might easily start to cut off content weird too. I guess the question is, what does Loqi do on multi-line tweets? Can that be adapted to p-name values as well?
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@HeNeArXn
#indieweb testing testing2 testing3 testing4 testing5 testing6 testing7
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sknebel
strips newlines
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Zegnat
moving to -meta
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TimApple
So known it is. Recomendations on hosting? or use somthing like Digital Ocean
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Zegnat
TimApple, I think Known works on most hosting environments. Just steer clear of too-cheap shared hosting plans where things like PHP aren’t on the latest version.
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TimApple
thanks Zegnat , now i just need to find a good tutorial on how to install it..will just use digitalocean
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Zegnat
There are some guides at https://withknown.com/guides/ , but nothing DigitalOcean specific apparently :(
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TimApple
I'll figure it out...thanks
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sketchess
happy building Tim
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@schmarty
Your < 10min update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for July 1st - 7th, 2017. https://martymcgui.re/2017/07/08/130249/
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sketchess
Thank you Loqi. :D
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sketchess
oh it's the same o.O?
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@huffduffer
This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • July 1st - 7th, 2017 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/417321
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schmarty
sketchess: they are the same. in this case, Loqi is picking up two tweets with nearly the same update. the first is a post i made to my personal twitter. the second is an automated post from huffduffer, an audio-sharing site.
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sketchess
likes the podcasts very much
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sketchess
wonderful voice *thought
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@davidmead
Posted on 2017-07-082017-07-08 by davidmeadThis Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • July 1st – 7th, 2017 This… http://djm.click/blog/a/4sT
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schmarty
i am glad that you enjoy them! i enjoy making them. the process of writing a summary for all of the wiki changes each week helps me make sense of what is happening. :}
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sketchess
so it is you xD, nice to meet you
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davidmead
didn’t know you did this schmarty. now grabbing it off huffduffer :-)
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sketchess
ah it is not the same, you are doing a series..... nice
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sketchess
I will enjoy as long as you create them, schmarty. :)
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sketchess
How many interview pieces do you have?
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sketchess
can't wait for the next one xD
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sketchess
good morning and good evening. sweet dreams.
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dgold
aaronpk: the mention of xmpp notifications on webmention.io's github - is there a way to configure that on .io - I don't see anything
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snarfed
afternoon all!
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[miklb]
howdy snarfed
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@misuba
All IndieWeb'd up and nothing to post.
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Zegnat
!tell petermolnar you should submit your backfilling post to https://news.indieweb.org/en ! That’s one way to boost discoverability~
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat
For the people not following petermolnar’s site, I’d like to make this mandatory reading :) https://petermolnar.net/personal-website-as-archiving-vault/
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Loqi
Bookmarks, favs, likes - backfilling years of gaps
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snarfed1
Zegnat++
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Loqi
zegnat has 66 karma in this channel (109 overall)
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snarfed1
petermolnar++
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Loqi
petermolnar has 23 karma in this channel (39 overall)
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Zegnat
Undeserved karma on my end there, snarfed, but thanks!
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petermolnar
thanks for the boost and the up
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Loqi
petermolnar: Zegnat left you a message 11 minutes ago: you should submit your backfilling post to https://news.indieweb.org/en ! That’s one way to boost discoverability~
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petermolnar
I'll link it to news
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Zegnat
petermolnar++ also more karma for you, before I forget
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Loqi
petermolnar has 24 karma in this channel (40 overall)
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petermolnar
just need to add that syndication url, which I thought I had working, but no, not really
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Bookmarks, favs, likes - backfilling years of gaps" https://petermolnar.net/personal-website-as-archiving-vault/
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Zegnat
Nice!
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snarfed
erm, ignore, just testing something :P
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@misuba
(Although it begins to look like IndieWeb and https://beakerbrowser.com/ are in the beginnings of a beautiful friendship!)
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GWG
Morning
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[miklb]
GWG you finally on local time?
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GWG
Local to where?
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[miklb]
your current locality
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GWG
It's morning in Manila, but the end of my day
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GWG
I work tonight again
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[chrisaldrich]
!tell TimApple You can still get a paid version of Known; just contact them to set up. (paid) Micro.blog *could* be used, but has some obvious limits.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next