#indieweb 2017-07-11

2017-07-11 UTC
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@angelogladding #indieweb @kevinmarks: (twitter.com/_/status/884591700483682305)
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@angelogladding #indieweb @angelogladding: testing (twitter.com/_/status/884592112490205184)
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KartikPrabhu what is regex?
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Loqi A regular expression is a sequence of characters used to match, extract, and/or replace patterns in text https://indieweb.org/regex
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Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb Summit 2017 Recap" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-06-30 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/indieweb-summit-2017-recap
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Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb Karaoke ??" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-06-26 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/indieweb-karaoke
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Hanging out with the IndieWeb Summit crew!" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-06-25 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/hanging-out-with-the-indieweb-summit-crew
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat Hi sl007!
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sl007 Hi Zegnat and everybody !
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Zegnat sl007 what are you planning for Dortmund? :)
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sl007 Basically a party with some friends ;) [1] During the whole festival in the tent there should be "posters" or a screen presenting the building blocks with a table to discuss, a flipchart as a brainstorm wishlist and a box and public poster for cards and website adresses. [2] Then we have 4-6 hours FRI and 6 hours SAT where we can come together for sessions - basically want to know what journalists expect from the indieweb. https://bil
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Zegnat Nice!
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Zegnat If you have anyone assisting you, a session where you have them set-up their own site would be nice
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sl007 Zegnat where are you then? If Ede: Could pick u up at NL border - anybody : https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund
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Zegnat sl007, no, I’m afraid I am back in Sweden, at least until next summer.
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Zegnat If I had been in Ede-Wageningen I would have considered coming over!
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sl007 Sweden? What happened in Sweden? I'll check out how to set up WebRTC for you to attend then ! Btw: The Facebook tent is near - we could also frisbee soccer battle ;)
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Zegnat sl007, I am continuing my studies in Sweden. But if you want to pick me up here I’ll still be happy to assist in Dortmund ;)
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[jeremycherfas] Zegnat: Is there an event to rsvp to for virtual HWC tomorrow or just add to the wiki?
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Zegnat I don’t think there is an Indie Event
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Zegnat I might make that my goal for HWC tomorrow: add event support to my site
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Zegnat Feel free to RSVP on the wiki. Or just drop in tomorrow :D
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[jeremycherfas] Cool. I'm a maybe. Will add later, when I get home
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petermolnar a little stretch to call this indieweb related, but since we have webmention.io - and a lot of other, .io, ooh, and, domains, in general -: https://thehackerblog.com/the-io-error-taking-control-of-all-io-domains-with-a-targeted-registration/
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@sl007 @LarsWienand ROFLCOPTER. Kommt auf jeden Fall alle bei mich bei https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund @ CAMPFIRE Festival für Jou… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/884688272424927232 (twitter.com/_/status/884688272424927232)
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@sl007 @anomalily Spread the word https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund (twitter.com/_/status/884688710398341120)
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@sl007 @adactio Good News are good news https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund (twitter.com/_/status/884689087449444352)
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Zegnat sl007 you got a sponsor for the Dortmund tent?! Nice work!
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sl007 Zegnat Yes, the concept for the festival is usually: Big media companies pay for their tents (9 square m. is 1800€) and the entrance is free … Also my big customer chiefs will speak there (e.g. ZDF, just need some time for that in the morning)
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[renem] Got a response yesterday from Netlify support. Took a little longer because they analyzed heavily and I now understand that it too some time to find the root cause of the issue.
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[renem] It was a DNSSEC entry I had set up in GoDaddy (my Hosting provider) and it worked flawlessly with Cloudflare. However when I switched to Netlify for DNS management they don't support DNSSEC and the Google public DNS got screwed up with.
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Zegnat sl007 interesting. Really cool to get an IndieWeb presence there then!
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Zegnat Could jkphl lend you his banners?
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sl007 It's on the afternoon checklist
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sl007 also stickers (put the last ones to DUS table) - !tell aaronpk if possible : c/o S. Lasse, Hügelstr. 104, 46539 Dinslaken, Germany [ until.arming.ammends - https://map.what3words.com/until.arming.amends ]
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@sl007 @klischka Hömma, kommt alle bei mich bei https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund @ CAMPFIRE Festival für Journalismus : sharing is caring ! (twitter.com/_/status/884696981276430336)
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Zegnat Ooo, you should go if you can sebsel! :D
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strugee !tell snarfed FINALLY wrote up a prose version of what we discussed at the ostatusbridge session: https://indieweb.org/bridge#ActivityPub - would apprecate a review if you've got time
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi strugee: Zegnat left you a message 2 weeks ago: nice running into you outside or prism-break btw!
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strugee raucao, jjuran: ^^^ you too :)
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strugee Zegnat: yes!! it's a small world :-)
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strugee and there's a lot of overlap between PRISM Break and the IndieWeb communities I think
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strugee lol
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jjuran what is ActivityPub?
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@sl007 @anked @VlkrDhr Ja: roflcopter. Aber kommt alle bei mich bei https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival für Journa… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/884704155146874880 (twitter.com/_/status/884704155146874880)
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Loqi ActivityPub is a decentralized social networking protocol (W3C Candidate Recommendation) based on ActivityStreams https://indieweb.org/ActivityPub
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strugee jjuran: I just added a link to the bridging stuff to ^^^ that page too
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jjuran is missing some context
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petermolnar will there be a VHWC tomorrow?
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petermolnar !tell adactio are there any plans on IWC Brighton 2017 so far?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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strugee jjuran: were you not at the bridging session at the IndieWeb Summit?
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strugee it's been a little too long for me to actually remember but based on https://indieweb.org/2017/ostatusbridge#Participants I thought you were
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jjuran strugee: I remarked on the coincidence of the name contracting to “OSBridge”, but I don’t think I attended it.
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jjuran That might have been the time slot during which I jumped from one session to another.
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strugee ahhh okay
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strugee shall I remove your name from the participants list then?
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jjuran If you like. I didn’t participate to any significant degree. :-/
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strugee I went ahead and did it since I want to go to bed; feel free to revert
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strugee ok
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Zegnat petermolnar, yes to the VHWC
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Zegnat Ooh, I hadn’t seen this new design for Chrome yet. Wonder if that will increase the rush on HTTPS: https://www.troyhunt.com/life-is-about-to-get-harder-for-websites-without-https/
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petermolnar I've only recently realized I can't any more include windows XP in https in debian unless I compile libssl on my own
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sebsel sl007 I added the guestlist to the wiki and RSVPed to it :)
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sl007 sebsel++
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Loqi sebsel has 22 karma in this channel (31 overall)
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sebsel I've booked train tickets too and will be in town Friday around 10:52, so if there's something to volunteer that day, please say so.
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sl007 sebsel - cool. Will make a schedule proposal in the afternoon. Do you've got a place to stay? Will also discuss venues with the festival director later and talk to other tent parties ...
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sebsel sl007 No place to stay yet! You can take notes under https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund#Organizers Don't know how much I can do from home, but happy to help out :)
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raucao strugee: thx!
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@sl007 @txustice Cool. How about booking Dortmund for September https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival für Journalismus (twitter.com/_/status/884729299978289153)
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@sl007 @txustice https://indieweb.org/2017/Berlin (twitter.com/_/status/884729412289265665)
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sebsel sl007++ for the CAMPFIRE indieweb promotion :)
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Loqi sl007 has 3 karma
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sebsel spamming all the people!
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sebsel no Loqi meme for that one :(
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Zegnat spamming all the people
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Zegnat Hmm, no, not the exclamation mark that threw it off
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cweiske $keyword all the things
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cweiske $keyword all the things!
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cweiske hm
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sebsel keyword all the things!
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4pJLhTZ2.jpg
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Zegnat Lets test in -chat folks ;)
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sl007 https://websub.rocks
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sl007 Loqi You are a whistleblower
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[xavierroy] is there a way to get to the top of the line for micro.blog account? ?
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jeremycherfas Good morning Indieweb
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Zegnat Good morning jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas Hi Zegnat. Added myself to V-HWC; there’s a chance I may not be able to be there, but I’m hoping to be.
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Zegnat As long as I am home on wednesday evenings there will always be a V-HWC going on to jump into. No stress on the RSVPing :)
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petermolnar what is diaspora*
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Loqi Diaspora (or D*) is an open source project for hosting a social network on your own server that federates with other Diaspora instances, which are called "pods" https://indieweb.org/Diaspora
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petermolnar I'm checking a few of the "open", federated stuff - diaspora, mastodon, etc - but I can't find anyone syndicating from/to them
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petermolnar I honestly wonder why
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Zegnat That’s what snarfed’s session was all about at IWS 2017, right?
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Zegnat There is a Mastodon plugin for Known IIRC
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petermolnar checking iws notes
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@sl007 https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival für Journalismus @TheTalesOfImmo @marcthiele @sebastiangreger @bastianallgeier @martinkaul (twitter.com/_/status/884744377154895873)
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@sl007 https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival @webgefrickel @webrocker @jkphl : Falls Du nicht kannst, könnten wir das Banner leihen ? (twitter.com/_/status/884745082473238529)
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petermolnar wtf is 'salmon slaps' ? http://indieweb.org/2017/ostatusbridge
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cweiske maybe "slab"?
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jjuran possibly related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
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@sl007 @shaina_mine Here is a proof : https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival for journalism (twitter.com/_/status/884745618513698817)
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sknebel ostatus equivalent of slapping someone with a large trout on IRC?
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petermolnar sknebel I was thinking the same :D
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jjuran could come in handy :-D
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Zegnat always slabs with salmon, has more salmon here
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Zegnat *slaps
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jjuran wild-caught, I hope
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Zegnat jjuran, I could go out and catch one for you right now. That is. If I had a boat.
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Zegnat Theoretically you can reach my house by boat. So if any IndieWebbers have a boat and want to swing by for coffee… ;)
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sl007 sknebel How about Dortmund and you ?
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@sl007 https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival for journalism @dangillmor @kevinmarks @glennjones (twitter.com/_/status/884748589452468224)
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@sl007 https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival für Journalismus @HeNeArXn @derhess @LukasRosenstock @egoexpress @DE_escalate (twitter.com/_/status/884748659182764032)
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sknebel sl007: maaaaybe. that's pretty much the time I'm supposed to be in the last weeks of writing my masters thesis, so I don't want to promise anything yet. but I'm aware of it ;)
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Zegnat sl007, if you are planning to talk planning or get volunteers, may I recommend moving the chat into the #indieweb-meta channel? :)
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mblaney hi indieweb
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petermolnar I'm going through http://indieweb.org/2017/perweb and the video
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Zegnat hi mblaney
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Zegnat petermolnar that session was good fun :)
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mblaney anybody have indie-config set up? I upgraded firefox recently and it's stopped working :-(
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petermolnar there is a massive missing definition: it's mentioned that there are many sites that doesn't do long read well; question is - what does? is there a "golden standard" long read format, which could be used as reference?
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petermolnar eg. font size to lines/words per line ratio
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petermolnar and so on
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Zegnat mblaney, I am not sure anyone of those online right now have indie-config setup... ping voxpelli
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mblaney yeah I haven't seen voxpelli on irc recently... hope he comes back!
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sknebel petermolnar: there is a bunch of typography guides and examples. people here often reference Edward Tufte and some templates after his works
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sl007 petermolnar also http://practicaltypography.com
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sknebel what is indie-config?
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Loqi indie-config is a method of using protocol handlers and postmessage to setup your indie website to both notify the browser that it can handle webactions and then do so https://indieweb.org/indie-config
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Zegnat mblaney, he is usually around, just need to poke him a bit
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prtksxna petermolnar: https://edwardtufte.github.io/tufte-css/ (per sknebel)
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mblaney ok thanks Zegnat :-)
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Zegnat http://practicaltypography.com/point-size.html and http://practicaltypography.com/line-length.html follow what I have usually read pretty well
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Zegnat Good link, sl007
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sknebel yep
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jeremycherfas Petermolnar: do you mean the sort of thing discussed so well on Butterick’s Practical Typography? http://practicaltypography.com
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Zegnat Though I do like font-size 100% a lot. Leave actual size preferences to UA and user settings
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jeremycherfas Such good advice there.
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mblaney !tell voxpelli trying to fix an indie-config problem on firefox (iframe won't load custom handler) could you take a look?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas Ooops. Sorry sl007. You beat me to it. But then, a second recommendation is good, right?
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Zegnat There is also http://webtypography.net/ by Richard Rutter, that has been around a while but I don’t think the information has gotten stale yet
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jeremycherfas I think font-size 100% is fine, as long as you can make all other measure (leading, line length etc) relative.
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Zegnat I do, jeremycherfas
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Zegnat See wiki.zegnat.net for an example
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Zegnat There I use whatever your system font is, at whatever your UAs font size is. Looks fine to me
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jeremycherfas Yup; yours is great. In my own case, I need to do something about the font size in blockquotes.
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voxpelli mblaney: I'm not currently at home, have you tried if it works on my site?
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Loqi voxpelli: mblaney left you a message 4 minutes ago: trying to fix an indie-config problem on firefox (iframe won't load custom handler) could you take a look?
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voxpelli is always on IRC ;)
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mblaney hi voxpelli, yes your site has the same problem in firefox.
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voxpelli :/ wasn't aware, have to look into it
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petermolnar jeremycherfas, s1007, sknebel, prtksxna thanks, reading them; I had read a lot about this a while ago, I was mostly just missing this from the http://indieweb.org/2017/perweb session to define what is readable
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jeremycherfas Ah.
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mblaney voxpelli: I feel like it's a regression from firefox because chrome still works, but let me know what you discover.
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sknebel What is typography?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "typography" yet. Would you like to create it?
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prtksxna petermolnar: You might like http://thinkingwithtype.com/ too :)
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Zegnat petermolnar, at some point the perweb session just turned into looking at pretty sites. Which I think was the original descriptor anomalily gave
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petermolnar you should have jumped into the belly of tumblr for pretty and/or unique sites
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sknebel Typography is the art/science of making text nice and readable.
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voxpelli mblaney: yeah, would have to try and find the change and bug within the Firefox code base I guess :/
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Loqi ok
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Loqi agreed.
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sknebel typography << http://webtypography.net/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://webtypography.net/" to the "See Also" section of /Typography
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voxpelli Made a note to look into it when I'm at a computer again
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sknebel typography << http://practicaltypography.com
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Loqi ok, I added "http://practicaltypography.com" to the "See Also" section of /Typography
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sknebel typography << https://edwardtufte.github.io/tufte-css/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://edwardtufte.github.io/tufte-css/" to the "See Also" section of /Typography
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sknebel oh, sorry, should have done that in -chat
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jeremycherfas The big trouble with using tufte.css is that if you do, you like like Tufte (which is a good thing, but you’re not him) and if you try to modify, you will almost certainly make it worse.
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Zegnat There are some relatively easy tweaks you can do though jeremycherfas. Just switching away from the Tufte font and then adjusting line-height to match with your new font does wonders
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jeremycherfas True
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petermolnar I'm still fascinated by the readability of http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/fontlist/ given that goes against most of the typography recommendations
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jeremycherfas Aside from the introductory paragraphs!
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petermolnar hm. had anyone tried using vh or vw for base font size?
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jeremycherfas Not me
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Zegnat I have played with that, but never liked the results
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Zegnat On that subject, this one is really interesting, petermolnar: https://fvsch.com/code/css-locks/
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Zegnat Using calc() for fancy things, and also having min and max fontsizes combined with viewport units
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petermolnar oh, yes, calc()
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petermolnar "look there is some js in my css"
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Zegnat On the same subject, there is https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2016/05/fluid-typography/ , which has some more essential reading linked in its footer
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petermolnar that's a long article
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Zegnat So … good luck reading all of that! hahaha
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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sl007 For line-height things I made this a while ago https://codepen.io/sebilasse/pen/gPBQqm but now there is also baseline in flexbox
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Zegnat Typography << https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2016/05/fluid-typography/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2016/05/fluid-typography/" to the "See Also" section of /Typography
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Zegnat Typography << https://fvsch.com/code/css-locks/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://fvsch.com/code/css-locks/" to the "See Also" section of /Typography
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snarfed strugee: cool! will read. i assume you also saw https://indieweb.org/2017/ostatusbridge ?
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Loqi snarfed: strugee left you a message 4 hours, 52 minutes ago: FINALLY wrote up a prose version of what we discussed at the ostatusbridge session: https://indieweb.org/bridge#ActivityPub - would apprecate a review if you've got time
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snarfed https://indieweb.org/bridge#ActivityPub looks great. probably worth merging the two pages!
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[chrisaldrich] xavierroy micro.blog were at IWS and giving out invites. Your best bet is to check their slack channel(s) and ask there.
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@sl007 @saschalobo Hier ist der Link nochmal ungeschwärzt : https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival für Journalismus (twitter.com/_/status/884798366202429441)
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[xavierroy] I guess you need to be a Kickstarter backer to join that?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb is on Open Collective" on 2017-07-11 https://opencollective.com/indieweb
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-07-11 http://boffosocko.com/2017/07/11/the-facebook-algorithm-mom-problem/
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@adactioLinks IndieWeb is on Open Collective https://opencollective.com/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/884809822713122817)
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sl007 Zegnat - maybe https://indieweb.org/Category:building-blocks should be updated with https://indieweb.org/2017/building-blocks (e.g. WebSub) ?
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Zegnat I wasn’t at the building-blocks session, but that sounds logical.
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tantek definitely
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Loqi tantek: sl007 left you a message 20 hours, 48 minutes ago: https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund
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tantek amazing!
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tantek an IndieWebCamp with actual camping with actual tents!
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Zegnat Yeah, you better go emojify that with tents, tantek ;)
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tantek sl007++
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Loqi sl007 has 4 karma
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tantek Zegnat you mean like https://indieweb.org/2016/Brighton ?
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tantek sl007: I strongly recommend finding a co-organizer to help make all the things happen and to support each other
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Zegnat votes for bombarding sebsel to co-organiser ?
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Zegnat tantek, ooh, yeah, that was the one I was thinking off!
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sebsel I have no idea what I can do from here :o
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sl007 tantek, Zegnat - wrote "10:52, so if there's something to volunteer that day, please say so."
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sl007 oh, sebsel, wait
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sebsel I did :)
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sl007 we need people there in the mornings (while realy great speakers speak, will extend wiki page) in the tent, if we share that with one more (3 people) that would be 3 hours for each one. So that there is always somebody to talk to and to watch a bit for equipment. Regarding the other things :
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sl007 1) We get a built tent which is equipped with power and internet (in the air). I'll bring two flipcharts and jkphl sends the flag.
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Zegnat I suggest taking organisation talk to the #indieweb-meta chat
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jeremycherfas !tell chrisaldrich s/obliviously/obviously/? In mom tax post?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [superfeedr] "? I'm now a proud supporter of IndieWeb. You should support them too! https://opencollective.com/indieweb #opencollective" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-07-11 http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/-im-now-a-proud-supporter-of-indieweb-you-should
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@EatPodcast ? I'm now a proud supporter of IndieWeb. You should support them too! https://opencollective.com/indieweb #opencollective (twitter.com/_/status/884821381942300672)
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@sl007 @jeena nice piece. More beats https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE - Festival for journalism (twitter.com/_/status/884823136407105536)
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@sl007 @marcthiele @wwnrw seen https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund @ ? CAMPFIRE - Festival for journalism ? (twitter.com/_/status/884823635860615169)
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[chrisaldrich] xavierroy You should be able to join the micro.blog slack here: https://micro.blog/slack
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: jeremycherfas left you a message 31 minutes ago: s/obliviously/obviously/? In mom tax post?
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[chrisaldrich] thanks jeremycherfas!
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@AaronGustafson ? I'm now a proud supporter of IndieWeb. You should support them too! https://opencollective.com/indieweb #opencollective (twitter.com/_/status/884825997165694977)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-07-11 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/the-facebook-algorithm-mom-problem-356e5005092e?source=rss----12b80d28f892---4
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sketchess good morning indieweb :)
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@davidmead I’m now a proud supporter of #IndieWeb. You should support them too! https://opencollective.com/indieweb #opencollective (http://djm.click/blog/b/4tU) (twitter.com/_/status/884830936243765251)
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sketchess greetings gRegorLove :)
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gRegorLove Hi sketchess
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sketchess Your archiv on your website.... are these the things you have done?
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sketchess quite alot
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gRegorLove sketchess: https://gregorlove.com/archives/ is my blog post archive
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tantek what is an archive?
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Loqi archive in the context of the indieweb refers to date-grouped (often monthly) sets of posts (AKA personal historical archives, a common form of navigation), but can sometimes mean archival copy, a copy of a web page made (often by someone other than the author) at a particular point in time https://indieweb.org/archive
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sketchess aaaah
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sketchess oh hi tantek :)
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tantek hello!
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tantek SF folks, please post your indie RSVPs to http://tantek.com/2017/193/e1/homebrew-website-club and see how long they take to show up!
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club SF
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@sl007 Soo nice to hear that @dunjahayali / @ethevessen will attend http://campfirefestival.org ! Everybody: Let's meet – I'm @ https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund (twitter.com/_/status/884844064205660161)
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@sl007 @jkphl @webgefrickel @webrocker forgot : could the indiewebcamp account tweet this event ? (twitter.com/_/status/884844411141672960)
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gRegorLove Considering cancelling HWC Bellingham tomorrow. Haven't heard from the couple regulars, so just messaged them. If we cancel, I might make it to part of the Virtual Americas one.
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sknebel oh, right, tomorrow is HWC night
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sknebel was still stuck in monday
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sketchess yep
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jjuran It looks like https://psmag.com/ is no longer entirely <https://indieweb.org/js;dr>.
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jjuran With NoScript enables, I get a photo and caption for a single story, which if clicked leads to the article.
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jjuran *enabled
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jjuran tantek: ^
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sketchess How do you know jjuran?
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jjuran sketchess: I tried it.
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tantek what is psmag?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "psmag" yet. Would you like to create it?
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jjuran Pacific Standard
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Zegnat gRegorLove: Virtual is a great alternative :D
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sketchess That makes no sense to me, jjuran. :)
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jjuran The question is whether its entry in js;dr should be amended or removed entirely.
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jjuran sketchess: I didn’t understand your question, either. :-/
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gRegorLove what is jsdr?
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Loqi js;dr is JavaScript required; Didn’t Read https://indieweb.org/jsdr
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sketchess Don't worry, was just curios about how people can distinguish between indieweb and non-indieweb.
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gRegorLove Ah, distinction wasn't indieweb vs non-indieweb. The site used to require javascript enabled to view, otherwise a blank page. jjuran is saying it's not entirely js;dr now, shows some content with JS off.
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jjuran Accurate.
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sketchess thank you for clarification
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snarfed grr, seems like twitter's API gets more and more flaky every day. currently returning retweet_count=0 for a number of tweets with RTs
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Loqi [superfeedr] "pati: Pati (https://gnusocial.ch/pati) joined the group IndieWeb (https://quitter.no/group/938/id)." on 2017-07-11 https://gnusocial.ch/notice/915357
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gRegorLove Gnusocial has groups? Is that like lists?
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gRegorLove *lists on Twitter
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strugee aaronpk: https://loqisaur.tumblr.com/ seems to be not what it should be?
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strugee snarfed: ah yeah, I did see that!
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strugee I was consulting it with writing the one I linked, actually, and I added the whiteboard picture too
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strugee we should probably link the two though; I'll do that right now
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strugee ah, guess you already did it :D
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strugee thanks!
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strugee gRegorLove: I don't think so
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strugee it has lists too IIRC
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aaronpk Yeah someone took over the username somehow. I've been trying to contact support
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strugee gotcha
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strugee kinda looks like spam to me? I've found Tumblr to be kinda terrible with that unfortunately :/
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sketchess good night everyone and sweet dreams
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Loqi don't let the bed bugs bite
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strugee sketchess: goodnight :-)
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strugee gRegorLove: aren't lists in Twitter just a way to categorize accounts? i.e. you can't "join" a list I don't think
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sketchess oh and if anybody need help finding a place to sleep for november, just ping me ;)
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strugee idk what lists are in GNU Social. in pump.io they're just a distribution target you can pick
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sketchess happy going to sleep
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gRegorLove Tumblr deactivates accounts if you don't post for a while. They send email notifications, but I've nearly missed a couple of them.
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gRegorLove Deactivate isn't the right word. I think it just goes back to being available
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gRegorLove "It's been a while since you've been on Tumblr, and we wanted to make sure that you're still interested in using the username [username]. If so, just hit this button:"
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aaronpk maybe that's what happened? i thought i was clicking those when they came in
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gRegorLove "If not, you don't have to do anything. If we don't hear from you within two weeks, we'll just give you a temporary username and release your old one back into the wild. You can come back and change your temporary name to whatever you want, whenever you’re ready. Your content will all still be here when you get back."
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gRegorLove What a weird practice
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gRegorLove Thanks, Yahoo
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aaronpk i mean i guess the flip side is you end up like twitter, where there are usernames stuck that haven't been touched in 7+ years
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[chrisaldrich] so much for the permalinks though... they should also auto email you your archived content if they're going to do that.
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[chrisaldrich] It seems like yahoo did that a few years back with email handles as well. Apparently there wasn't enough backlash or customer service issues to stop it.
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dgold i'd like it if twitter would release old usernames
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dgold think there are eleven nyms of mine on twitter, only one of which has ever posted
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dgold okay, several of which have started posting in the last month
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@sl007 @wblau http://campfirefestival.org - just in case : we are here : https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund (twitter.com/_/status/884874664312438784)
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schmarty wow, has anybody played with this for their facebook data? http://dataselfie.it/
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Zegnat I think that has come by a couple of times
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schmarty i was surprised to find no references in the wiki
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schmarty seem to be no search results in #indieweb, hmm https://indiechat.search.cweiske.de/?q=dataselfie
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Zegnat I know I have seen this before though … I think petermolnar linked it
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tantek catches up on logs
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schmarty it looks pretty interesting! i can't tell to what degree it is detecting and capturing the actual info that facebook is capturing about you (versus approximating what they think facebook is collecting / predicting).
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aaronpk yep in indiechat
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schmarty ah, ok. little hope of recovering that discussion then. :}
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tantek what is Netlify
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Netlify" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove There's /Netlify_CMS but I wasn't sure the dfn for /Netlify
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tantek !tell renem what is Netlify that you referred to? https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-07-11/1499761951985000
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [[renem]] Got a response yesterday from Netlify support. Took a little longer because they analyzed heavily and I now understand that it too some time to find the root cause of the issue.
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gRegorLove I guess it's /hosting when you cut through the marketing
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gRegorLove Anyway, will let someone more familiar update
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sknebel Netlify is https://www.netlify.com, a CDN/static hosting provider with integrated build service, e.g. for [[static site generator]]s.
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 20 karma in this channel (44 overall)
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[chrisaldrich] I'm delving into /Planning#Los_Angeles for IWC LA later this year, everyone feel free to look at dates and add your thoughts or preferences for dates +/0/-
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I'd like a transporter.
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GWG JF2 vs MF2 for microformats2 storage. Thoughts?
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sknebel GWG: MF2 meaning data structures/JSON like they are generated by a MF2 Parser?
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tantek GWG, I think MF2 because I prefer to edit HTML instead of JSON. but that's just me.
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tantek ok that's dev like
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sknebel or HTML with mf2
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sknebel also true
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GWG Will move the thought
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Loqi [superfeedr] "It looks like the CAMPFIRE Festival &#x1f525; in Dortmund, Germany in September 2017 is shaping up to be the place to be for journalism, media, and Indieweb! https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-07-11 http://boffosocko.com/2017/07/11/campfire-festival-in-dortmund-sept-2017/
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@ChrisAldrich CAMPFIRE Festival ? in Dortmund 9/2017 is the place to be for #journalism, #media, & #indieweb! http://boffosocko.com/2017/07/11/campfire-festival-in-dortmund-sept-2017/ (twitter.com/_/status/884898320203698176)
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tantek what is shortdomain
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "shortdomain" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what are short domains
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Loqi short domains are commonly used on the IndieWeb for personal URL shortening, or clever domain hacks https://indieweb.org/short-domains
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tantek shortdomain is /short-domains
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Loqi ok
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tantek chrisaldrich I cringed from the title of your post "Facebook Mom Problem" but now with the "like every post" behavior, I get it and can't help laughing
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tantek what is mom-autolike
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "mom-autolike" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek lol at the subheads
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tantek chrisaldrich++ for a well written humorous and even self-deprecating at times article http://boffosocko.com/2017/07/11/the-facebook-algorithm-mom-problem/
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 34 karma in this channel (46 overall)
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] The Facebook Algorithm Mom Problem http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d5fb4e498fe609cc29b04e5b7ad688c4?s=42&d=mm&r=pg
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jjuran Ugh. That’s the same logic as “if a lot of spammers link to your site, then you’re probably a spammer.” Which is notably *not* how PageRank works.
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[miklb] good evening