#LoqiMicropub is an open API standard (W3C Recommendation) that is used to create, update, and delete posts on one's own domain using third-party clients, and supersedes both MetaWeblog and AtomPub https://indieweb.org/Micropub
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#Loqiaaronpk: sl007 left you a message 4 hours, 13 minutes ago: tantek - I would also quickly like to find money for indieweb and write 3 letters to german institutions (I am Alumni at a cultural foundation governed by public law and got a grant for the refugees project from our copyright collecting society and now a friend joined Mercator foundation - apart from "history" summary, may I name you as those "experts having a designate expertise" (what would be needed to fill in at the
#aaronpk!tell sl007 I'm not quite sure I understand the request, but generally I am happy to support you doing this, so the answer is probably yes!
#[dylanon]Thanks. Would I need to run node.js on my server to use this? Have come across it before but have had difficulty figuring out exactly how to use it. I have basic shared hosting (no node support) so I think I need a PHP-based implementation. Something like this I guess? https://gist.github.com/adactio/8168e6b78da7b16a4644
#[miklb]You wouldn’t need to run node on your server, there’s a one-click deploy to heroku option.
#ben_thatmustbemeFollow this bot and it will follow you back, then any tweet you post with a link in it, it will authorization submit to the internet archive
#ben_thatmustbemeDo that with bridgy and have it include the links back yup the original
#ben_thatmustbemeBam, every post automatically goes to the internet archive
#Ruxtonor you can just ping the internet archiver from your blog
#Loqi[Tantek Çelik] h-entry is a simple, open format for episodic or datestamped content on the web. h-entry is often used with content intended to be syndicated, e.g. blog posts. h-entry is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding data in HTML/H...
#TheGillies"<p>Published by <a class="p-author h-card" href="http://example.com">W. Developer</a>
#TheGillieson <time class="dt-published" datetime="2013-06-13 12:00:00">13<sup>th</sup> June 2013</time>"
#aaronpkTheGillies: your avatar URL is missing a /
#jjuranTheGillies: The end tag for the <p> element is optional if it can be deduced from context.
#Loqisl007: aaronpk left you a message 7 hours, 30 minutes ago: I'm not quite sure I understand the request, but generally I am happy to support you doing this, so the answer is probably yes!
#petermolnargiven that I'm a Hungarian in the UK, I can totally understand that the EU is missing me :D joke aside, that weekend is already booked by family
#ZegnatStop with all the Dortmund talk, I am envious I of everyone going :p
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#sl00710m radius would be already fine, thankyou !
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#petermolnarhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14757722 - I really wonder if it's possible in any way to address this with indie solutions; I miss the old radio algorithm of last.fm, which always recommended the next thing based solely on the current track; yes, sometimes it slipped far away from the original thing you listened to, but this way, it let you discover new things
#Loqi[cameldrv] The problem is the economics of the Internet today. Most sites are ad-funded. They need to maximize pageviews and time on site. The recommender is a huge part of accomplishing that, and it simply won't be tuned to any metric other than maximizing ...
#sebselInteresting: a friend of mine was inspired by my website and now uses IFTTT to get posts from his various silo accounts to the Mac journaling app DayOne. That way he has a personal archive, without having it all publicly online.
#Loqisebsel: sketchess left you a message 17 hours, 18 minutes ago: add me, thank you very much :)
#sebselHe has his own domain, where he blogs, so he is indieweb in that regard. And he owns his data (sort of, need to see how DayOne stores it), but he does not POSSE.
#sknebelPESPA? (publish elsewhere, syndicate to private archive)
#Loqiarchive in the context of the indieweb refers to date-grouped (often monthly) sets of posts (AKA personal historical archives, a common form of navigation), but can sometimes mean archival copy, a copy of a web page made (often by someone other than the author) at a particular point in time https://indieweb.org/archive
#sebselI was checking in a lot on Swarm to have a location archive, but now I got aaronpk's GPS-logger + compass and I don't need to check in that much anymore :)
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#jeremycherfasThat actually raises an interesting point. I’m not that interested in sharing my sleep patterns, checkins or activity with the world, but I would hate to lose them completely. I could have them privately on my own site, of course, or just store them somewhere outside the silo that gathers them.
#Loqiprivate posts refer to posts or portions of posts which are private to either the author or to a limited audience chosen or previously approved by the author https://indieweb.org/private_post
#sebseljeremycherfas: yes! I might start doing that with ownyourswarm (i have private posts already), because checkins on Swarm are already friends-only
#sknebelI personally wouldn't count/implement pieces I don't want to publish as "part of my site", but that's a personal choice as well (maybe having a unified interface to view them *is* valuable). I'm considering doing private bookmarks on my site, because I'd likely make some of them public or reference them from public posts
#sebselI have a monthly page now (https://seblog.nl/2017/7), and I get a lot of value out of that, so I am putting in more and more data, but more for myself than for other people. Makes sense for me to shield some of it off.
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#ZegnatThat sounds pretty close to what aaronpk does, sebsel :)
#sebselZegnat: but he has everything (sleep, checkins, trips) public, right?
#petermolnarit'd be interesting to see a graph of aaronpk's site with everything included once
#petermolnar(not sure my laptop could handle it :D)
#aaronpkMostly I have things public because it's easier than making them private lol
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#aaronpkhopefully I'll get private posts working one of these days and might lock down some of the data on there
#sebsellol, yeah, private posts and maintaining lists of audience is another problem in itself
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#aaronpkOmg cweiske i can't believe you've been archiving that lol
#sebselbut it's worth trying, there is demand for it
#cweiskeI saw that one day on your homepage and wondered where those data came from
#sknebelthings I'd never put on a public endpoint, nr 3463
#aaronpkmy intent was not to share the domains but oh well
#sebselyeah, our sites, especially aaronpk's, are also a sort of showcase of what you can do with a personal site. Making half of it private damages that showcase function.
#aaronpkYeah I guess that's the other reason I haven't bothered to make some stuff private
#sebselbut then again: I get reactions of 'I would never share that much' from other people, so maybe having a private part is also a showcase of some kind
#ZegnatThere is also just stuff in there that is unnecessary sharing. I don’t feel it actually gives away very private information, it is just general information.
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#sebselwell it's information about *you*, as opposed to information about what you do/have done.
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#ZegnatYes, but no information I wouldn’t consider to be public. Comparison: I have no health related things listed. I thought about listing the prescription of my glasses and decided against that, for instance.
#sebselyes, some of the information you share is just strange to share because no-one cares.
#sebselBut, when I say 'Seb is at Arnhem Central Station' (which is the case now) it still says nothing about me to someone who does not know me. There are plenty of people who can be at Arnhem CS now. And in a couple of minutes the train goes on and I am not there anymore, so the information is outdated anyway.
#sebselStating that 'Seb is 2,03 meters tall', is way more identifying, and when the train moves on, it is still true.
#ZegnatIt is just people saying “I would never share those things” … well, my passport + CV has almost the exact same information as my homepage anyway. And even some things that aren’t on those documents would be important and needs to be shared with (potential) employers. E.g. I will not work in a space with dogs present.
#sebselI actually was hesitant to write that in the public chatlog here, because it does identify me and it will not change ever.
#sebselhere, I am no more on Arnhem CS, but still 2,03 meters. That was fast :)
#petermolnarsebsel 'Seb is at' also imlies you're not at Y - eg. at home - which is the reason why I don't share my location - otherwise it's easy to tell, where I am _not_ and, maybe, make a visit to my home while I'm somwhere else. (Yes, I was burglured once)
#ZegnatI even keep holidays mostly off of Facebook - if I can - until I have returned. Especially since my home adress cannot be kept secret without a court order
#jjuransebsel: On the other hand, it tells people that you’re not at home.
#jjuranWhat I’d like to do is limit not which information I share, but the scope of the set of people with whom I share it.
#sebselFor burglers reading along: I have housemates and they might be home so keep out.
#petermolnarjjuran that is one of the hard things yet to be solved
#ZegnatSweden is limiting in this case. The only way to keep me from doxing myself is by *never giving out my real name*. Because as soon as you have that, all bets are off unless I am able to request secret adress listings etc through the government.
#sebseljjuran: I want something like that yeah, but maintaining lists of people is a practical problem yet to be solved.
#jjuranWell, there’s maintaing the list, and then there’s also the problem of selective distribution of the information
#ZegnatThere is also the inherit problem of storing the information in the first place.
#ZegnatWe all know how fragile webservers sometimes get
#petermolnarjjuran owntracks tried to tackle this by letting you share your mqtt stream with others, which makes a lot of sense
#petermolnarbakctitude has an option that if you let it read sms, it can receive & responsd to "share your location" if the sender is on the pre-approved list
#petermolnar(can't type today, sorry for all the mistakes)
#jjuranZegnat: I’m not sure the World-Wide Web is the right tool for maintaining privacy :-)
#ZegnatI thought about playing with that backtitude setting, petermolnar. But then I am suddenly using SMS as the protection? You can’t actually be sure where an SMS even originated from…
#Zegnat“Please generate an SSH key and send it to me, I will then give you access to a blackbox where you have access to a single command that will tell you where I am”
#petermolnarZegnat those who will go through the social engineering or the engineering to fake SMS-es probably already have access to other methods to get your location, don't you think?
#aaronpki just got an email from twitter that says "you have been given permission to tweet from @adminforservice"
#aaronpki was not aware that permission worked that way
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#[miklb]ACL for Twitter accounts does sound new to me
#aaronpkit's part of tweetdeck, but i've only seen that email the other way, when I add a new twtiter account to my tweetdeck, the account gets an email like "___ can now tweet from your account"
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#Loqi[cweiske] I implemented my search engine because I thought it was cool to have my own search engine
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#[dylanon]Right. Haven't used Heroku before but it looks promising - thanks for clueing me in.
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#[miklb]Feel free to ping me or voxpelli in the indieweb channel if you have any questions. I soon going to be setting up another site and use jekyll again, so I’ll be setting it up again myself. I have a jekyll-indieweb theme that has basic micropub support https://github.com/miklb/jekyll-indieweb
#Loqi[miklb] jekyll-indieweb: A Jekyll quick start to getting up and going with the IndieWeb
#[miklb]could help get a jumpstart on adding to your own site.
#LoqiPASTA is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish Anywhere, Save To (private) Archive, the practice of automatically saving a copy of whatever you post on (social media) silos to someplace else under your own control, like a private directory on your own server, or a local folder on your laptop that is less vulnerable to site-death https://indieweb.org/PASTA
#LoqiPASTA is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish Anywhere, Save To (private) Archive, the practice of automatically saving a copy of whatever you post on (social media) silos to someplace else under your own control, like a private directory on your own server, or a local folder on your laptop that is less vulnerable to site-death https://indieweb.org/PASTA
#Loqi[superfeedr] "I appear to have made a functioning Micropub endpoint #indieweb" by dgold@ascraeus.org (Daniel Goldsmith) on 2017-07-14 https://ascraeus.org/micro/1500061827/
#aaronpkmicro.blog iOS app was published, the first micropub client to be in the app store!
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#[miklb]speaking of micropub and iOS how goes your work eddie ?
#LoqiJust generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-07-14.html
#sebselthe micro.blog iOS app seems to need a Micro.blog account, so it's not so open as a Micropub app could be.