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#tantekDoes anyone here have a "donate" or "donations" link / page on their site? (in UI and functionality - different from just having a /pay or /payment page)
#TheGilliesHave you guys thought of creating indieweb in a box that provides all the backend indieweb services. Then people can be free to create whatever front end they want?
#sl007Zegnat : The problem here is that when a domain request would be submitted and somebody sniffs it, they know about our desire for a domain and could park it.
#sl007Zegnat : Not sure about the english term - "domain snatching" ?
#ZegnatSure. But you could just use something like command line nslookup, right?
#ZegnatIf nslookup gives you NXDOMAIN the domain is probably free, good enough cursory check. And this goes via your DNS provider, which you already seem to trust as you are using them to tell you what server goes with what domain.
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#Zegnatsl007, but if you are afraid of squatters grabbing the domain before you, all you are interested in is if a domain is free. nslookup is *almost* as good at checking that as whois. Though I agree whois over HTPS would be nice.
#Zegnatjeremycherfas nice! Follow all the people where you want to follow them :D
#jeremycherfasZegnat: I suppose Woodwind would let me like direct from the feed, but that’s too much for me now.
#sketchessI found your 'appear' link and tried the other service with my browser, Zegnat. Compared to jitsy it is not my first choice for HWC. Firefox and jitsi go better together.
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#Zegnatsketchess how so? I use Firefox exclusively for WebRTC stuff and appear.in works as easily for me as jitsi meet does
#Zegnatjeremycherfas, sometimes consuming is the main goal by itself. I definitely consume a lot more media than I actively interact with
#jeremycherfasZegnat: Oh, for sure. In IG I definitely look at far more photos than I like, and I like far more than I comment on. So that friction really isn’t an issue.
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#sketchessI do not know why it restarts as soon as I touch something. I can not really use it, not even mute or unmute, Zegnat. And even if I gave permission to microphone and camera it acts odd.
#ZegnatCan you try in an anonymous browser window, sketchess?
#sketchessPlease explain a bit further, I am not sure if I am on the right track of understanding.
#Zegnat“private window” is what Firefox calls it. That’s what I use for all the WebRTC stuff. Can’t tell you where it is in your menu, as you are on Windows and I am not
#ZegnatIt does seem like the US guys are having a good time with Hangouts, so we might try that at some point. Maybe I am just inherently biased against Google.
#sketchessit still just let me mute audio and I still have half of the buttons below, but everything is on place now
#sketchesshah, I could create a room now, hahahaha.... that works too
#sketchessto google you will not get me back either tihihihihi
#Zegnatappear.in isn’t perfect either. It had the same issue as talky where not everyone in the call would be able to connect to eachother. (Especially Lukas and I.)
#ZegnatSo if you know any better platforms for online video conferencing, do let us know and we can give it a try!
#sketchessI will be fine with appear + private mode. We will not get harmed by no camera access. ;)
#ZegnatI have my camera turned off almost always, to keep my internet costs down. So no problems there.
#sketchessI would not mind to install something. *thought
#petermolnara long while ago I thought I'll be a webrtc advocate, but it's been weird and - probably due to codecs and hd/fhd webcam resolutions - way too cpu insensive
#petermolnarI'm slowly realizing I'd rather go back to qvga res and the old skype, just please someone get it working easily, reliably and without burning down or drainig the battery in 1 hour of a laptop
#ZegnatI imagine clients should be able to let the user pick at what bitrate they want to push their webcam right? They just don’t allow for it most of the time, defaulting to “best possible”, which is both heavy on encoding (CPU) and bandwidth
#petermolnarthey should, just noone bothers doing it, since everybody wants the best resolution!
#sketchessonly thing that bothered me that it automactically wants to start when pc gets turned on
#ZegnatVidyo is enterprise software, AFAIK. It probably cost Mozilla a non-insubstantial sum to get all their conference rooms outfitted. I don’t believe we can set-up a Vidyo conference for IndieWeb just at the snap of our fingers.
#sketchesshmmmm what about good old chat software.... wasn't it later possible to do it with ones like msn or icq or so?
#ZegnatSure, that’s what petermolnar means with wanting the old Skype back ;)
#sketchessI like the 'old skypes' way better than the new ones. grrrrr they changed it once again. It tries to force me into google or microsoft accouts now.... no thank you, I rather die.
#sketchessHuh, appear does have a short cut to mute or unmute audio, but does not have any for video. How odd.^^
#ZegnatFor muting and unmuting yourself? That might be their way of supporting push-to-talk
#sketchessWell now I have at least a letter, if the buttons disappear. *lol*
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#petermolnarthat article of [chrisaldrich] got me thinking that though posts are definitely a problem for filter bubble algorithms maybe events are just as much of a problem, yet event cross-posting is niche even within the indieweb community; I'm guessing mostly because of the lack of tools
#petermolnarnone of the WordPress event plugins I know of have capabilities to do this, for example
#aaronpkthey're actually more about testing whether your webmention client can find the webmention endpoint correctly, but if you're sending via telegraph it does that all for you