#indieweb 2017-08-09

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sebsel
I can now see all aaronpk's checkins on a map, all the stickers he unlocked, a list of his mayorships, friends, the number of coins.
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sebsel
Seems like Swarm now shares a lot more information about you with your friends.
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sebsel
That's the kind of privacy where people ARE scared for. They don't care as much about person-to-silo privacy, but they do about person-to-person.
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sebsel
(I should not generalize)
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sebsel
Hm, tweets about the update are mostly just "oh everything changed make it go normal again".
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sl007
Hello everybody.
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dgold
fine by me :) not like I have any friends on swarm anyway!
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Loqi
dgold: snarfed left you a message 1 day, 12 hours ago: ^^^ i'd love thoughts on this if you have any! (https://snarfed.org/indieweb-activitypub-bridge )
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "We are still a long way from home" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-08-09 http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/we-are-still-a-long-way-from-home
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jeremycherfas
Hello IndieWeb
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schmarty
Good morning, IndieWeb
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GWG
Good morning, jeremycherfas, schmarty
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sknebel
good morning!
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jeremycherfas
I’ve been away and offline; hoping to catch up at virtual HWC this evening.
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GWG
I have been trying to catch up on three weeks of deferred maintenance
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sl007
Zegnat - "holidays" now until IWC Dortmund (apart from full time webcomponents coding) - Q: Do you know if http://etherpad.indieweb.org is powered by the official Node.js version https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite ?
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Zegnat
sl007, don’t know what the others versions are. So can’t tell you. But both contain a copyright notice for 2011 by Peter Martischka, so I guess it is the “official” one?
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Zegnat
jeremycherfas hope to see you on vHWC then :D
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jeremycherfas
Hope to see you there zegnat
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sl007
if it is Node.js I'd have a look into customizing the interface a bit to make it more usable for IWC and enrich w. WebRTC to have a "minimal" livestream option …
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jeremycherfas
Dgold: Quick private chat?
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dgold
jeremycherfas: you on irc or slack?
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Zegnat
Less than an hour until virtual HWC people :D
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sebsel
Zegnat what will the 'venue' be this time?
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Zegnat
appear.in, as listed on the wiki
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sebsel
I was just answering my own question with "hey, you should look at the wiki" :') https://appear.in/hwc
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sebsel
35 minutes until Virtual HWC starts, join at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-08-09 5:29pm CEST (#6064)
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sebsel
Almost.
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Zegnat
The event is also the last post on https://licit.li/, which is less searching than the wiki, maybe
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Zegnat
T-7 minutes ’til vHWC. I’ll warm up the room.
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Loqi
Virtual HWC starts, join at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi
Countdown set by sebsel on 2017-08-09 at 4:54pm CEST
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Zegnat
Hijacking the topic for a bit, don’t think anyone minds :D
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sknebel
Zegnat: yep, good idea
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Zegnat
And apparently my network problems are starting again. Hmm. Switching to phone.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "When people around you try to do XSS on the karaoke web app in the booth, it's probably an after party of a geek event." by Sebastian Kippe on 2017-06-26 https://updates.kip.pe/2017/when-people-around-you-try-to-do-xss-on-the
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gRegorLove
Good afternoon, indieweb
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sknebel
hi gRegorLove
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gRegorLove
Chat's been rather quiet lately
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sknebel
yeah. summer break?
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tantek_
hello #indieweb
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Loqi
tantek_: snarfed left you a message 1 day, 21 hours ago: ^^^ i'd love thoughts on this if you have any! (https://snarfed.org/indieweb-activitypub-bridge )
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tantek_
snarfed++ wow that's some great investigatory work (also upon first skim seems like a lot of good simplifying assumptions/decisions just to get something working!)
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Loqi
snarfed has 280 karma in this channel (294 overall)
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tantek_
will give it a more thorough read once back in my normal timezone
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tantek_
in other news, since I know you (snarfed) and others like to chat about blog spam, check out this gem I found: https://gist.github.com/shanselman/5422230
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tantek_
discovered by web-searching the seemingly generic spam sounding comment here: https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/06/major-milestones-for-publishingw3c/#comment-95685
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tantek_
discovered by web-searching the seemingly generic spam sounding comment here: https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/06/major-milestones-for-publishingw3c/#comment-95685
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Loqi
slader
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Loqi
slader
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tantek_
yeah, the one by slader. Thanks Loqi
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gRegorLove
Ha. That's great.
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tantek_
what you haven't seen (and might not) are the two replies I left for that comment that are in moderation. first that links to the template, calls it out for being spam, and encouraes its deletion (and the reply). And the second which says feel free to leave the thread there to help aid in comment spam discoverability.
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gRegorLove
Many spam comments at the end of that github thread too
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tantek_
OMS just started reading the comments on that gist. priceless
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tantek_
gRegorLove wow that is very odd. like nearly nothing for ~4 years, then spam starting this year?
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tantek_
or maybe github only blocks and clears spam accounts once a year?
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KartikPrabhu
tantek_: thanks for the link. it has very valuable information. keep up the good work, hope to read more in the future ;)
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tantek_
hahaha. just please don't teach Loqi to use that template :)
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Loqi
hehe
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tantek_
oh dear
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Kaja
hehe
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KartikPrabhu
oh no, we have two sentient bots on here now!
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KartikPrabhu
Loqi give Kaja some cake
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gRegorLove
The cake is a lie
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KartikPrabhu
I'm making a note here, HUGE SUCCESS!
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tantek_
gives Loqi cake to give Kaja
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gRegorLove
heads to #indieweb-chat (or -cake?)
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tantek_
aside, in all seriousness, I think I have a use-case for *not* owning a comment
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tantek_
specifically the comment I left on that w3.org blog post which suggests it can/should be deleted once the spam is (since my comment makes no sense out of context)
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tantek_
This is the comment permalink I see for my comment that "is awaiting moderation": https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/06/major-milestones-for-publishingw3c/#comment-95793
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Loqi
[Bill McCoy] publishing groups workflow diagramThe new Publishing@W3C activity was formed in February 2017 when W3C finalized our combination with IDPF (the International Digital Publishing Forum). Over the last four months there’s been a ton of progress. The n...
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tantek_
I doubt anyone else can see it because I can only see it because I'm cookied to see it
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tantek_
point is, I have no desire to own a comment that is both in-reply-to something that should be deleted (the spam comment), and suggests deleting it itself
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tantek_
wait did we discuss delete-of?
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tantek_
I mean, *one* way it *could* make sense is if I posted the comment on my site, POSSE it to that WordPress install, and that WordPress install somehow knew to send "delete-of" responses to comments that were deleted, and my server knew how to handle a delete-of response (from the in-reply-to source), and I set that reply to "ok to autodelete if deleted by the in-reply-to author)
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tantek_
what is delete-of
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "delete-of" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10r8
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tantek_
what is a photo reply
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Loqi
photo reply is a reply with a photo, thus also a photo post that is in-reply-to another post https://indieweb.org/photo_reply
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tantek_
that's close
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tantek_
what is edit
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Loqi
An edit (AKA diff, change) is a special type of reply that indicates a set of suggested changes to the post it is replying to. A collection of (presumably related) suggested edits in open source is often called a patch or pull request https://indieweb.org/edit
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tantek_
what is delete your account?
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Loqi
delete your account is an encouragement to delete your (silo) account, e.g https://indieweb.org/delete_your_account
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tantek_
what is delete your account
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Loqi
delete your account is an encouragement to delete your (silo) account, e.g https://indieweb.org/delete_your_account
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tantek_
delete your account << delete
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tantek_
delete your account << delete
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Loqi
ok, I added "[[deleted]]" to the "See Also" section of /delete_your_account
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Loqi
ok, I added "[[deleted]]" to the "See Also" section of /delete_your_account
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tantek_
delete your account << delete
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Loqi
ok, I added "[[deleted]]" to the "See Also" section of /delete_your_account
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tantek_
ok - not sure why dupes are being sent - on this end (in the web chat UI)
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tantek_
OTOH, should a See Also section really have dupes?
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tantek_
E.g. https://indieweb.org/delete_your_account#See_Also has two "delete" entries (though I'd expect 3 from the above ^^^ - odd)
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gRegorLove
I'm seeing dupes from you in IRC, but not every message.
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tantek_
anyway that's more meta. I suppose I could see owning that kind of comment (heads-up about that spam!) but only after lots more was figured out / implemented (a "delete reply" that a blog post author could send after deleting an accepted webmention reply)
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schmarty
Baltimore HWC quiet writing hour has begun! just a few of us.
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GWG
Evening
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "🔖 Universal Sign-In Button" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-08-10 http://boffosocko.com/2017/08/09/universal-sign-in-button-unicyclic/
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aaronpk
hwc pdx is rolling
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GWG
Rolling?
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "But just like Facebook has a HUGE cadre of geeky engineers who've been working for more than 10 years to make it work easily enough" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-08-10 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/but-just-like-facebook-has-a-huge-cadre-of-geeky
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Tomorrow is the first of many DreamHost Website Club meetings! Inspired by Homebrew Website Club, but for our employees to spend company time working on" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-08-10 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/tomorrow-is-the-first-of-many-dreamhost-website-club-meetings
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