#indieweb 2017-08-09

2017-08-09 UTC
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sebsel I can now see all aaronpk's checkins on a map, all the stickers he unlocked, a list of his mayorships, friends, the number of coins.
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sebsel Seems like Swarm now shares a lot more information about you with your friends.
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sebsel That's the kind of privacy where people ARE scared for. They don't care as much about person-to-silo privacy, but they do about person-to-person.
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sebsel (I should not generalize)
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sebsel Hm, tweets about the update are mostly just "oh everything changed make it go normal again".
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sl007 Hello everybody.
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dgold fine by me :) not like I have any friends on swarm anyway!
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Loqi dgold: snarfed left you a message 1 day, 12 hours ago: ^^^ i'd love thoughts on this if you have any! (https://snarfed.org/indieweb-activitypub-bridge )
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Loqi [superfeedr] "We are still a long way from home" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-08-09 http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/we-are-still-a-long-way-from-home
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jeremycherfas Hello IndieWeb
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schmarty Good morning, IndieWeb
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GWG Good morning, jeremycherfas, schmarty
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jeremycherfas Hello GWG
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sknebel good morning!
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jeremycherfas I’ve been away and offline; hoping to catch up at virtual HWC this evening.
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GWG I have been trying to catch up on three weeks of deferred maintenance
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sl007 Zegnat - "holidays" now until IWC Dortmund (apart from full time webcomponents coding) - Q: Do you know if http://etherpad.indieweb.org is powered by the official Node.js version https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite ?
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Zegnat sl007, don’t know what the others versions are. So can’t tell you. But both contain a copyright notice for 2011 by Peter Martischka, so I guess it is the “official” one?
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Zegnat jeremycherfas hope to see you on vHWC then :D
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jeremycherfas Hope to see you there zegnat
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sl007 if it is Node.js I'd have a look into customizing the interface a bit to make it more usable for IWC and enrich w. WebRTC to have a "minimal" livestream option …
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jeremycherfas Dgold: Quick private chat?
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dgold jeremycherfas: you on irc or slack?
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jeremycherfas Irc
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Zegnat Less than an hour until virtual HWC people :D
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sebsel Zegnat what will the 'venue' be this time?
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Zegnat appear.in, as listed on the wiki
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sebsel I was just answering my own question with "hey, you should look at the wiki" :') https://appear.in/hwc
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sebsel 35 minutes until Virtual HWC starts, join at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-08-09 5:29pm CEST (#6064)
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sebsel Almost.
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Zegnat The event is also the last post on https://licit.li/, which is less searching than the wiki, maybe
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Zegnat T-7 minutes ’til vHWC. I’ll warm up the room.
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Loqi Virtual HWC starts, join at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi Countdown set by sebsel on 2017-08-09 at 4:54pm CEST
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Zegnat Hijacking the topic for a bit, don’t think anyone minds :D
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sknebel Zegnat: yep, good idea
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Zegnat And apparently my network problems are starting again. Hmm. Switching to phone.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "When people around you try to do XSS on the karaoke web app in the booth, it's probably an after party of a geek event." by Sebastian Kippe on 2017-06-26 https://updates.kip.pe/2017/when-people-around-you-try-to-do-xss-on-the
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gRegorLove Good afternoon, indieweb
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sknebel hi gRegorLove
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gRegorLove Chat's been rather quiet lately
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sknebel yeah. summer break?
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tantek_ hello #indieweb
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Loqi tantek_: snarfed left you a message 1 day, 21 hours ago: ^^^ i'd love thoughts on this if you have any! (https://snarfed.org/indieweb-activitypub-bridge )
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tantek_ snarfed++ wow that's some great investigatory work (also upon first skim seems like a lot of good simplifying assumptions/decisions just to get something working!)
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Loqi snarfed has 280 karma in this channel (294 overall)
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tantek_ will give it a more thorough read once back in my normal timezone
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tantek_ in other news, since I know you (snarfed) and others like to chat about blog spam, check out this gem I found: https://gist.github.com/shanselman/5422230
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tantek_ discovered by web-searching the seemingly generic spam sounding comment here: https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/06/major-milestones-for-publishingw3c/#comment-95685
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tantek_ discovered by web-searching the seemingly generic spam sounding comment here: https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/06/major-milestones-for-publishingw3c/#comment-95685
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Loqi slader
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Loqi slader
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tantek_ yeah, the one by slader. Thanks Loqi
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gRegorLove Ha. That's great.
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tantek_ what you haven't seen (and might not) are the two replies I left for that comment that are in moderation. first that links to the template, calls it out for being spam, and encouraes its deletion (and the reply). And the second which says feel free to leave the thread there to help aid in comment spam discoverability.
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gRegorLove Many spam comments at the end of that github thread too
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tantek_ OMS just started reading the comments on that gist. priceless
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tantek_ gRegorLove wow that is very odd. like nearly nothing for ~4 years, then spam starting this year?
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tantek_ or maybe github only blocks and clears spam accounts once a year?
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KartikPrabhu tantek_: thanks for the link. it has very valuable information. keep up the good work, hope to read more in the future ;)
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tantek_ hahaha. just please don't teach Loqi to use that template :)
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Loqi hehe
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tantek_ oh dear
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Kaja hehe
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KartikPrabhu oh no, we have two sentient bots on here now!
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KartikPrabhu Loqi give Kaja some cake
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gRegorLove The cake is a lie
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KartikPrabhu I'm making a note here, HUGE SUCCESS!
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tantek_ gives Loqi cake to give Kaja
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gRegorLove heads to #indieweb-chat (or -cake?)
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tantek_ aside, in all seriousness, I think I have a use-case for *not* owning a comment
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gRegorLove Oh?
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tantek_ specifically the comment I left on that w3.org blog post which suggests it can/should be deleted once the spam is (since my comment makes no sense out of context)
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tantek_ This is the comment permalink I see for my comment that "is awaiting moderation": https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/06/major-milestones-for-publishingw3c/#comment-95793
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Loqi [Bill McCoy] publishing groups workflow diagramThe new Publishing@W3C activity was formed in February 2017 when W3C finalized our combination with IDPF (the International Digital Publishing Forum). Over the last four months there’s been a ton of progress. The n...
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tantek_ I doubt anyone else can see it because I can only see it because I'm cookied to see it
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tantek_ point is, I have no desire to own a comment that is both in-reply-to something that should be deleted (the spam comment), and suggests deleting it itself
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tantek_ wait did we discuss delete-of?
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tantek_ I mean, *one* way it *could* make sense is if I posted the comment on my site, POSSE it to that WordPress install, and that WordPress install somehow knew to send "delete-of" responses to comments that were deleted, and my server knew how to handle a delete-of response (from the in-reply-to source), and I set that reply to "ok to autodelete if deleted by the in-reply-to author)
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tantek_ what is delete-of
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "delete-of" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek_ hmm
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tantek_ what is a photo reply
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Loqi photo reply is a reply with a photo, thus also a photo post that is in-reply-to another post https://indieweb.org/photo_reply
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tantek_ that's close
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tantek_ what is edit
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Loqi An edit (AKA diff, change) is a special type of reply that indicates a set of suggested changes to the post it is replying to. A collection of (presumably related) suggested edits in open source is often called a patch or pull request https://indieweb.org/edit
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tantek_ what is delete your account?
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Loqi delete your account is an encouragement to delete your (silo) account, e.g https://indieweb.org/delete_your_account
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tantek_ what is delete your account
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Loqi delete your account is an encouragement to delete your (silo) account, e.g https://indieweb.org/delete_your_account
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tantek_ delete your account << delete
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tantek_ delete your account << delete
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Loqi ok, I added "[[deleted]]" to the "See Also" section of /delete_your_account
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Loqi ok, I added "[[deleted]]" to the "See Also" section of /delete_your_account
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tantek_ delete your account << delete
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Loqi ok, I added "[[deleted]]" to the "See Also" section of /delete_your_account
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tantek_ ok - not sure why dupes are being sent - on this end (in the web chat UI)
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tantek_ OTOH, should a See Also section really have dupes?
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tantek_ E.g. https://indieweb.org/delete_your_account#See_Also has two "delete" entries (though I'd expect 3 from the above ^^^ - odd)
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gRegorLove I'm seeing dupes from you in IRC, but not every message.
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gRegorLove Weird
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tantek_ anyway that's more meta. I suppose I could see owning that kind of comment (heads-up about that spam!) but only after lots more was figured out / implemented (a "delete reply" that a blog post author could send after deleting an accepted webmention reply)
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schmarty Baltimore HWC quiet writing hour has begun! just a few of us.
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