#indieweb 2017-08-11

2017-08-11 UTC
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[miklb] schmarty neat. I played with Audiogram a little bit, but never got around to creating any sound it use with it.
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[miklb] s/it use/to use/
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-08-11.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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Loqi [superfeedr] "What Does the IndieWeb Mean to Me?" by Michael Bishop on 2017-08-10 https://miklb.com/2017/08/what-does-the-indieweb-mean-to-me/
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[miklb] looks like someone fixed their broken feed
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "What Does the IndieWeb Mean to Me? – Miklb's Mindless Ramblings" https://miklb.com/2017/08/what-does-the-indieweb-mean-to-me/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2017/08/10/24/)
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gRegorLove Nice photos this week
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat Good morning jeremycherfas!
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jeremycherfas Hi zegnat. What’s on your plate today?
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Zegnat Planning to take care of https://github.com/Inklings-io/selfauth/issues/26, which I hoped to do at HWC last Wednesday.
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Loqi [sknebel] #26 Allow changing the granted scopes
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jeremycherfas !tell schmarty Have you been following http://www.signl.fm/hello/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat You still swamped with client work jeremycherfas, or will you be doing some own tinkering?
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jeremycherfas Not too bad at the moment zegnat. I have one client who is two weeks late with something and will expect me to drop everything when he finally delivers. In the meantime, I will be able to do some tinkering.
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schmarty Good morning, IndieWeb!
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Loqi schmarty: jeremycherfas left you a message 4 hours, 20 minutes ago: Have you been following http://www.signl.fm/hello/
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schmarty jeremycherfas: definitely! I have subscribed to their newsletter and I learned about the WNYC Audiogram Generator from an early signl.fm post.
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jeremycherfas Schmarty: I saw the latest pivot to Gretta, and I hope things are going well there.
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jeremycherfas Have you noticed any uptick?
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schmarty I look forward to hearing more from the Gretta team. I am not sure yet about upticks in interest for the podcast, as I've only done a single test post and it did not link to the actual episode. :
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schmarty I look forward to hearing more from the Gretta team. I am not sure yet about upticks in interest for the podcast, as I've only done a single test post and it did not link to the actual episode. :
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jeremycherfas Is it essential to use Docker?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Post Kinds Plugin for WordPress" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-08-11 http://boffosocko.com/2017/08/11/post-kinds-plugin-for-wordpress/
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schmarty Docker is not at all required, but I was able to get up and running very quickly that way.
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jeremycherfas Thanks.
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schmarty I think the requirements boil down to node and ffmpeg, so it should install on most *nix-like systems pretty easily
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jeremycherfas I want to have a play with this; maybe next week.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Post Kinds Plugin for WordPress" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-08-11 http://boffosocko.com/2017/08/11/post-kinds-plugin-for-wordpress
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Loqi [superfeedr] "ChrisAldrich on Twitter: "If @SoundCloud Disappears, What Happens to Its Music Culture? | NY Times #IndieWeb https://t.co/998KnDWpBS https://t.co/nQJsAIS2N2"" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-08-02 https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/892633882507583488
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Post Kinds Plugin for WordPress" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-08-11 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/post-kinds-plugin-for-wordpress-5674507501ff?source=rss----12b80d28f892---4
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[miklb] howdy y’all
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[chrisaldrich] !tell sl007 There was some good discussion of /Dublin_core back in March 2017; tldr: there really aren't any consuming applications so it's not very worthwhile though many in education (libraries) and journalism have it.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[chrisaldrich] 'mornin' miklb
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[miklb] O_/
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gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
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gRegorLove This is an odd thing in Known: No link to my post that was liked (but I did receive a webmention) http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/liked-gregor-morrills-owning-my-calendar-48cc20047e
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] Chris Aldrich ...
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sknebel that's gotta be a bug?
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[miklb] think I’m going to finally try and get reacji working in WordPress this weekend.
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gRegorLove [miklb]: Nice! Is your database already set up for utf8mb4?
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[miklb] I believe so, emojis work pretty well from what I’ve seen.
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[miklb] I’m getting backfeed emojis from bridgy facebook, right now they just show up as a reply.
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gRegorLove Huh, are likes not a default content type in Known? Checking some other Known sites to compare likes and so far none of them have likes
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gRegorLove benwerd, kevinmarks, and cleverdevil don't have them
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[kevinmarks] I have done some likes (using woodwind) but they're hidden by default
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[kevinmarks] Eg http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/adactio-linkspresenting-the-new-d3loom-chart-form-plugin---visual
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Adactio: Links—Presenting the new d3.loom chart form plugin - Visual Cinnamon
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[kevinmarks] That has a u-like-of http://www.unmung.com/mf2?url=http%3A%2F%2Fknown.kevinmarks.com%2F2017%2Fadactio-linkspresenting-the-new-d3loom-chart-form-plugin---visual&html=&pretty=on
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gRegorLove Aha. Yeah, I was pretty certain I'd seen individual likes from you before, kevinmarks
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gRegorLove Is that a Known "like" content type, or just a note?
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[chrisaldrich] Known has a like plugin, but it's been broken for 6+months. Some odd quirk no one has been able to track down.
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[chrisaldrich] https://github.com/kylewm/KnownReactions/issues/17
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Loqi [danito] #17 Likes not showing url
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[chrisaldrich] gregorlove I sent that like earlier while doing some testing. I want sure they were sending wms, but they likely don't look right when received.
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[chrisaldrich] s/want/wasn't
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gRegorLove Aha
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gRegorLove Yeah, it failed verification on my end since it couldn't find my URL
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[cleverdevil] gregorlove I don't like the way that Known does it...
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[cleverdevil] It lumps all of them in as Bookmarks.
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[cleverdevil] Which is.... not right.
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[chrisaldrich] cleverdevil it was separating them for me when it worked
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, I believe it was with that plugin.
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[cleverdevil] Honestly, it really needs to be a "core" thing in Known.
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[chrisaldrich] That's what I've suggested before too...
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[cleverdevil] Problem is, the only person really doing work on core right now is mapkyca, and he's mostly focused on things for clients, I am guessing.
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[cleverdevil] I am doubtful that this sort of change would be on his radar.
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[cleverdevil] benwerd could likely do it pretty quickly, but he's pretty busy with other things ?
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[cleverdevil] That said, under the hood it still knows the difference between a "Like" and a "Repost" and a "Bookmark."
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[cleverdevil] Its how I am able to include that in the "_meta" extension in my JSON Feed implementation -> https://cleverdevil.io/2017/lillala-on-twitter-living-that-meatball-life-ikealivingpdx-ikea_portland-chcfxrh6sg?_t=jsonfeed
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[cleverdevil] Is there an open issue about this on GitHub?
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[chrisaldrich] There's one linked above ^ and a separate one in the core repo as well
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[cleverdevil] Ah, right ?
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[kevinmarks] I only make likes with woodwind so I'm not sure what is going on underneath
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[miklb] https://twitter.com/jina/status/896094214093643776
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@jina We should bring back web rings. (twitter.com/_/status/896094214093643776)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Awesome article on Post Kinds in @WordPress by Chris Aldrich! - http://boffosocko.com/2017/08/11/post-kinds-plugin-for-wordpress/ #IndieWeb" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-08-11 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/awesome-article-on-post-kinds-in-wordpress-by-chris-aldrich
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gRegorLove AMP Fail. Gizmodo linked to a Motherboard article, but the AMP version, and something's wrong with it. Only shows the logo for me: https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/vbv54d/google-on-anti-diversity-manifesto-employees-must-feel-safe-sharing-their-opinions
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Zegnat “ Automated AMP conversion and optimization by” … there are companies just around AMP now?
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Zegnat (view source on gRegorLove’s link)
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gRegorLove Hah
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gRegorLove The rel-canonical link in the source works, though.
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gRegorLove Maybe we could make that canonical link faster ?
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-08-11.html
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gRegorLove Kongaloosh: Is Edmonton weekly now? I noticed August 1, 8, 15
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-08-11.html
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@cswordpress @mor10 While we're at it, I need an accessibility ready theme that has full microformats 2 support. Because indieweb and microblogging. (twitter.com/_/status/896129187269926914)
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schmarty i think Loqi no longer likes showing my audio edition links? maybe because I started using "#IndieWeb" instead of "IndieWeb" in my tweets?
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aaronpk odd
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schmarty either way, audio edition is up: https://martymcgui.re/2017/08/11/185328/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • August 5th - 11th, 2017
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schmarty totally speculating about the why, but noticed that loqi didn't pick up the huffduffer announce or my tweet last week or this week.
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sknebel I justed tweeted things containing Indieweb in variations, let's see if Loqi finds them
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sknebel in the past it did so instantanously
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aaronpk hmn maybe the streaming connection is broken
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aaronpk restarts
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sknebel it did find the thing by cswordpress ~75 mins ago
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aaronpk 15 minutes later, so that was probably from the cron job version
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sknebel ah
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Loqi [superfeedr] "But just like Facebook has a HUGE cadre of geeky engineers who've been working for more than 10 years to make it work easily enough" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-08-10 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/but-just-like-facebook-has-a-huge-cadre-of-geeky
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