#indieweb 2017-08-14

2017-08-14 UTC
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DanC_
hm. I can't seem set it up to store photos somewhere that google won't back them up
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DanC_
but it does let me choose which folder to save to, so this is promising
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Hey, look who is a headline speaker for this year's World Hosting Days USA! #DreamHost #IndieWeb http://worldhostingdays.com/usa/speakers/" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-08-14 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/hey-look-who-is-a-headline-speaker-for-this-years
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@cleverdevil
Hey, look who is a headline speaker for this year's World Hosting Days USA! #DreamHost #IndieWeb http://worldhostingdays.com/usa/speakers/
(twitter.com/_/status/896895625844969472)
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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cweiske
Loqi, you broke the # in that url
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cweiske
a HTML export plugin for nextcloud would give us the solution
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jeremycherfas
To be honest, cweiske, I think I may be too dumb to understand what the real problem is.
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cweiske
there was discussion about dropbox and their publish-via-http feature that is disabled now
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cweiske
people that do not want to host their own webserver
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cweiske
but want to publish html documents somewhere
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jeremycherfas
I thought you were specifically referring to Dave Winer’s post; sorry.
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cweiske
dave winer's post is in the same area
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jeremycherfas
Right. I think I understand his point about allowing your preferred developer access to improve whatever it is you are doing, but that’s the bit that really had me thinking.
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@grabaperch
We're keen to bring more #indieweb features to Perch - let us know what you want to see https://perchrunway.com/blog/2017-08-01-being-part-of-the-indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/897077190243876864)
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cweiske
.. unfortunately their blog doesn't support webmentions yet :/
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jeremycherfas
The obvious thing to do then is write a lengthy list of things you would like to see on your blog and then drop them a one line: Implement webmentions.
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Zegnat
Weird that they wouldn’t turn it on for their own site … https://docs.grabaperch.com/addons/blog/webmentions/
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aaronpk
Save clearly doesn't want suggestions, (based on his comments in that github thread) but Micropub + IndieAuth is the second half of his post
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aaronpk
s/Save/Dave
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cweiske
aaronpk, why does loqi not interpret s/ commands anymore?
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aaronpk
2 reasons. Loqi doesn't have access to the irc logs anymore, and people seemed split as to whether it was actually a useful feature vs just noise so I haven't prioritized bringing it back
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waynr
is there a list of indieweb blog/article comment systems somewher?
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Here's the third in a series of new NPM packages I've produced in the last few months. This one is called githubpub. It's close to the ideal for the #indieweb storage system. You put your web content in GitHub repositories, and they are served directly from there from the public API, with a domain name associated with each site. It's not as easy as Dropbox, and requires a bunch of setup, probably not something for end users, but a bunch of the pieces are there and work." on 2017-08-14 http://scripting.com/2017/08/14.html#a103743
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aaronpk
waynr: funny enough I can't find a list of them, but https://indieweb.org/Disqus is one
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aaronpk
i think probably because most people here use webmentions to receive comments from other blogs, and/or have local comments on their site https://indieweb.org/local_comments
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aaronpk
cweiske++ good find. not sure why I didn't think to check /reply, I only looked at /comment
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Loqi
cweiske has 91 karma in this channel (109 overall)
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cweiske
I knew I added juvia at some point
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waynr
cool, i wonder how hard it would be to support a dual disqus/webmention approach
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[kevinmarks]
Anyone here going to that?
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tbbrown
i am. :)
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[miklb]
anyone ping manton about that?
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tbbrown
yes, i think he plans to attend
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@sdepolo
? #indieweb RT @SmallBizOpinion A8) Vimeo, youtube, social media, but remember blab, keep your videos on your website. #bizapaloozachat
(twitter.com/_/status/897168323644936192)
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tantek
good day #indieweb!
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snarfed
hey tantek
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tantek
checks logs for what's new
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Loqi
perch has 2 karma in this channel (3 overall)
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@grabaperch
We're keen to bring more #indieweb features to Perch - let us know what you want to see https://buff.ly/2w5TrDZ
(twitter.com/_/status/897077190243876864)
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tantek
What is Perch
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Loqi
Perch and Perch Runway are a content management systems based on PHP+MySQL https://indieweb.org/Perch
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Loqi
tomwiththeweath has 1 karma
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tantek
interesting aaronpk cweiske I wonder if Comments_Embeds belongs more on /comments
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aaronpk
the /reply page is supposed to encompass more than specifically comments, and these comment embed things are usually limited to comments and don't have things like "likes" so, i think yes
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tantek
also this is part of the reply vs comment distinction
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tantek
done. and expanded ^^^ that a bit also
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tantek
left a forwarding section in place so the /reply#Comments_Embeds link still works
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Loqi
[john] Re: Chris Aldrich on making the IndieWeb easier for Generation 2 users?
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tantek
"Perhaps shorter how-toos that don’t link off too much" <-- remember what I was saying about keeping how tos short and local (not somewhere else) e.g. re: selfauth. -> #indieweb-meta
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tantek
Yes: "…it did help me realise that I’ve made some progress, enjoyed it and will continue. I don’t need to build my space in a day."
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "14/08/2017, 22:33" by Colin Walker on 2017-08-14 https://colinwalker.blog/2017/08/14/14082017-2233/
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "14/08/2017, 22:41" by Colin Walker on 2017-08-14 https://colinwalker.blog/2017/08/14/14082017-2241/
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gRegorLove
Good afternoon, indieweb
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tantek
good afternoon gRegorLove !
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gRegorLove
snarfed, aaronpk: Was there a change in granary re: u-photo? Noticed the Atom for my notes duplicated a photo
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aaronpk
yep, granary now adds the u-photo to the atom feed if it isn't there already
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snarfed
sigh yes. details in https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/113 . it tries to de-dupe, but evidently not well enough
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Loqi
[aaronpk] #113 Include mf2 photo in Atom content?
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snarfed
apologies for the trouble
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gRegorLove
No worries. I honestly don't even know if anyone subscribes to my /notes Atom
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gRegorLove
I just have it in Woodwind to test.
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gRegorLove
Can add a comment there if you want a data point
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aaronpk
relatedly, my http://micro.blog/aaronpk profile looks a lot better now :)
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snarfed
small victories
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snarfed
ah i see the problem, de-duping doesn't canonicalize urls. will do. thanks for the report gRegorLove
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aaronpk
heh cute idea for home page design http://jasonpark.me/
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aaronpk
also nice that it at least renders normal with JS, tho does require JS to open the folders
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tantek
what is a homepage
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Loqi
Your homepage represents you on the web, typically at the top of your domain, and shows your name and an iconic representation, often marked up with h-card https://indieweb.org/homepage
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KartikPrabhu
"simple" !
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tantek
yeah it looks pretty simple, what do you mean by simple that makes you "!" ?
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aaronpk
i wouldn't even know where to start to make that happen
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Loqi
awesome
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aaronpk
but it is conceptually simple i guess
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tantek
user-model simple
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tantek
which is what makes it a good example
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KartikPrabhu
forgetting about "simple to make" it took me about 3 clicks to open up a project
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tantek
uh what happens in the terminal window?!?
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aaronpk
wonders how many people type `rm -rf /` into that
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[tantek]
Wow, this has IndieWeb implications, especially with regards to hosting: https://www.dreamhost.com/blog/we-fight-for-the-users/
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[cleverdevil]
Its been... stressful.
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gRegorLove
aaronpk: Guessing at least 1 more today? :)
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gRegorLove
Heh, the forward slash brings up quick find in Firefox so interferes
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@bradheath
Federal court says LinkedIn *must* allow a company to scrape users' public profiles, orders it to remove technical barriers within 24 hours. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHOCi1NWAAAVZE4.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/897204471222198272)
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tantek
whoa that is interesting
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[miklb]
I’m so glad I deleted that years ago.
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tantek
miklb deleted your linkedin?
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tantek
what year?
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[miklb]
Don’t recall. It’s been a long time.
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tantek
ok :)
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gRegorLove
What is linkedin?
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Loqi
LinkedIn is a special-purpose silo for hosting your professional resume, history, and contacts https://indieweb.org/LinkedIn
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@manton2
Down at Capital Factory for the EFF meetup and @tomwiththeweather’s talk about the IndieWeb. https://www.meetup.com//EFF-Austin/events/241601607/
(twitter.com/_/status/897246352220008448)
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