#indieweb 2017-09-18

2017-09-18 UTC
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I'm defining for including share icons on printed things that can't be clicked" by Kevin Marks on 2017-09-17 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/im-defining-for-including-share-icons-on-printed-things-that
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@jeremyzilar The 5th #IndieWebCamp NYC is coming — Sep 30 – Oct 1 A 2-day maker event for creating/improving your personal site https://www.facebook.com/events/804054553133873/?active_tab=about (twitter.com/_/status/909596655464349696)
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GWG Is Jeremy coming, I wonder?
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Loqi GWG: petermolnar left you a message 14 hours, 20 minutes ago: both me az Zegnat have good experience with Backtitude; that can send http updates and log locally - I use this latter and sync it daily with syncthing
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tantek evening GWG
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tantek yes I got in touch with Jeremy, and he's going to try to make it for at least part of one day. I encouraged him to come Sunday :)
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GWG We're up to 4 then?
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tantek good q
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tantek need to check the tickets site!
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tantek GWG, likely more. My pal Hannah said she wants to come too as she has a bunch of updating to do on her personal site
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GWG tantek: I look forward to Sunday. I am behind on so many things coming into the season.
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tantek GWG, same same!
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tantek hopefully no blizzard this time :)
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GWG tantek: It was warm enough I swam today, so hopefully not
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GWG tantek: Anything you hoping to get done?
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@ruxton @lordmortis if you interested, there might be a way to proxy event invites to-from Facebook using indieweb event stuff (twitter.com/_/status/909619883322654720)
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Ruxton damn loqi, parroting me :P
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tantek GWG, I think I would like get more responses showing up on my posts, which means I have to figure out a lot of blocking and deleting
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GWG Vouch?
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tantek as well as how to template comments from webmention.io into something displayable with the markup and styling I want
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tantek GWG, Vouch is harder for me because I have all the initial webmention handling done by webmention.io
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tantek so I want to see how far I can go with that
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tantek instead of buliding my own webmention handler, for now
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tantek but to #indieweb-dev ...
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tantek This is an itch for me too - I would like to figure out a good flow for indieweb invitations that do not require FB, and a way to still get invitations to FB events: https://twitter.com/lordmortis/status/909004886615801860
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@lordmortis This has been going on ever since I left Facebook. It’s pretty fucking shitty to do this to people because they are “hard” to invite. (twitter.com/_/status/909004886615801860)
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Ruxton yea
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Ruxton that dude left FB about 1.5 years ago
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Ruxton and he said at the time he worried his social interactions would take a hit
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Ruxton and they have
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tantek events are one of my personal primary use-cases of FB :/
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Ruxton same
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Ruxton if I could see a world where proxying events in and out worked well, I'd probably leave
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tantek I would like to develop the tech to break this dependence for myself, and hopefully others
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tantek Ruxton, it's why I've prioritized getting indie events working on my site
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tantek I've stopped creating FB-only events
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tantek but of course that takes more work. still, at least "doable but more work" is better than "not doable"
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Ruxton bit harder to POSSE an event from a static site too
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tantek Ruxton: for FB it makes no difference since you have to do it all manually
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tantek there's no FB API for creating events :(
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tantek Ruxton - I wonder if it would help to POSSE an event and invitations to Twitter, with some made up format for Twitter (since Twitter doesn't have a native event post)
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tantek presumably that would help a few more folks (those with Twitter but not FB)
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Ruxton oh boooo
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Ruxton v1 used to let you, but it looks like v2 dropped it
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tantek yeah :(
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[kevinmarks] Why did superfeeder strip my hashtag?
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[kevinmarks] Hm, looks like ownyourgram.com stripped it
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[kevinmarks] Or possibly known http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/im-defining-for-including-share-icons-on-printed-things-that
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] I'm defining for including share icons on printed things that can't be clicked #cargocultsocial #indieweb http://known.kevinmarks.com/file/f5205cb4e71e921b89f76cbe9c17794f/thumb.jpg
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[kevinmarks] The inline hashtag became a category at the bottom
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jeremycherfas Known strips hashtags and lots else mercilessly
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[kevinmarks] Ah, so known bug.
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jeremycherfas Or, possibly, feature?
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jeremycherfas I don't know enough about it, but something about injecting bad things.
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jeremycherfas I made it go away by changing a strip_tags somewhere, but then it came back for reasons I don't fully understand, so I have learned to live with it.
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[kevinmarks] Trailing hashtags, fair enough, but inline ones are part of the sentence
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jeremycherfas Yes.
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Zegnat If it is a strip_tags thing they may just not be allowing A elements coming in the way OYG is posting to Known? Though that feels very wrong.
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jeremycherfas There's a discussion around here https://chat.indieweb.org/2015-07-28/1438092203077000
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Loqi [voxpelli] I myself simply ignore HTML as there's other attack vectors in there as well – like an absolute positioned Iframe that takes over your entire site with a phishing one
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@sl007 @m_ott @stefanjudis If you'd use it would you "bridge" webmentions? Btw: Working out sponsored indieweb hackathon http://bit.ly/2xb9qit prior FOSDEM Brussels. (twitter.com/_/status/909734448475885568)
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petermolnar pandoc html -> markdown, when displayed, md -> html, problem solved
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petermolnar has anyone ever done webapps optimised for e-ink devices?
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petermolnar the -chat talk got me interested, and it seems very much possible and reasonable to have an old kindle touch serve as an mqtt dashboard
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GWG petermolnar: What would you want to display on it?
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petermolnar I'm only in the information gathering phase, probably a few toggles and switches, sensor readings, etc; text basically
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petermolnar I'm just curious what the capabilities of the built-in browser are
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petermolnar I will obviously not run a react monster on it :D
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Liked Chris Aldrich's A reply to Aaron Davis on setting up IndieWeb replies in WordPress" by Rob Fairhead on 2017-09-17 http://www.raretrack.uk/2017/liked-chris-aldrichs-a-reply-to-aaron-davis-on-setting
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Salt Loqi, I think I got pinged a while ago.... what was the message?
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Loqi Salt: gRegorLove left you a message on 2017-06-26 at 7:06pm UTC: you and dougbeal should get in touch regarding IWC Seattle
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Loqi Salt: tantek left you a message 2 weeks, 4 days ago: Are you still looking into a possible IWC Seattle this Oct / Nov? https://indieweb.org/Planning#Seattle
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Salt yeah...
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Salt Loqi, tell tantek I've just been too overloaded to think about it so probably not alas.
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KartikPrabhu Salt: use "!tell" without asking Loqi
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Salt Loqi, crashed hexchat...
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Salt KartikPrabhu, thanks, would have figured it out eventually!
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KartikPrabhu what is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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KartikPrabhu ^ that page has a list of commands
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Salt !tell tantek I've just been too overloaded to think about it so probably not alas.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Salt #relevant https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/09/open-letter-w3c-director-ceo-team-and-membership
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[kevinmarks] https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/17/technology/facebook-government-regulations.html?referer=https://t.co/Cl3XmV8Glh?amp=1
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@keithjgrant @manton2 I’m doing an IndieWeb talk on Friday… I’m curious what generation you see http://micro.blog as? http://indieweb.org/generations (twitter.com/_/status/909856019890757634)
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[keithjgrant] ...or if anybody else here can answer that...
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[keithjgrant] Slides for my indieweb talk this Friday: https://keithjgrant.com/talks/decentralized-web/#/
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KartikPrabhu [keithjgrant]: curious about what you are planning to say about the "my grandmother" slide
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aaronpk Awesome! Will the talk be recorded?
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[keithjgrant] They usually record, though last year's talks never made it online :(
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aaronpk Yeah that's tough. Where is it? Maybe I can come record ;-)
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[keithjgrant] Atlanta.
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aaronpk a bit far
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aaronpk but for reals, id recommend recording at least the audio yourself
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[keithjgrant] Not a bad idea
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aaronpk even if it's just your phone in your shirt pocket or something
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[keithjgrant] The "grandmother" slide is basically to head-off the "this isn't ready for prime time" sort of comments. Intro into the concept of generations
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KartikPrabhu [keithjgrant]: I see
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[keithjgrant] It's a tech conf. So most folks there will be programmers.
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KartikPrabhu maybe the wiki page on different projects should have a "generation" indicator?
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KartikPrabhu what is project?
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Loqi Here are some projects you can use to get your site on the IndieWeb, improve your IndieWeb support, or take a look at to get inspiration for your own project! https://indieweb.org/project
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tantek KartikPrabhu: the /projects page still needs a lot of fundamental clean-up, nevermind trying to tag individual projects as being of a certain generation etc
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Loqi tantek: Salt left you a message 2 hours, 54 minutes ago: I've just been too overloaded to think about it so probably not alas.
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tantek now I'm curious of the context
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Salt tantek, re:iwc seattle
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@mattchamlee @wreimers It's aimed at Education, but it's a great way to have a stream content, keep ownership, and POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/909879345686003712)
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@mattchamlee @wreimers It's aimed at Education, but it's a great way to have a stream of content, keep ownership, and POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/909879496399921152)
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tantek Salt - cool no problem. Shall we move Seattle to /Planning#2018 ?
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Salt yes please, definitely looking at running one in BHam around LFNW and another in Sea around SeaGL
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bear ugh - if you know anyone who has this software installed, let them know -- https://amp.thehackernews.com/thn/2017/09/ccleaner-hacked-malware.html
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@t Anyone working on open alternatives to #GoogleAMP? Similar goals, zero Google deps. Cites+more https://indieweb.org/AMP (ttk.me t4qT2) (twitter.com/_/status/909913711787220992)
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