#indieweb 2017-09-19

2017-09-19 UTC
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petermolnar !tell tantek so what would and open source amp have over plain html with minor js?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@calum_ryan Register for the next Homebrew Website Club London Discussion & work on the independent web October 4th 6pm-8pm https://hwclondon.co.uk (twitter.com/_/status/910066105191927809)
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@voxpelli When it comes to indie-crawlers it shows the complexity of indexing JS. The answer should still be to always be https://indieweb.org/curlable (twitter.com/_/status/910069854329294848)
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cweiske !tell tantek petermolnar - I've finally blogged about my backup strategy: http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/backup.htm
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Christian Weiske] My backup strategy
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petermolnar cweiske++
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Loqi cweiske has 93 karma in this channel (114 overall)
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petermolnar because making content is still a very important aspect of indieweb ;)
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@schmarty Baltimore! Join us at Homebrew Website Club @DHFBaltimore on 9/20. Work on your website, learn about #IndieWeb! https://martymcgui.re/2017/08/25/001526/ (twitter.com/_/status/910139502378864640)
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tantek good morning #indieweb
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Loqi tantek: petermolnar left you a message 5 hours, 41 minutes ago: so what would and open source amp have over plain html with minor js?
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Loqi tantek: cweiske left you a message 3 hours, 42 minutes ago: petermolnar - I've finally blogged about my backup strategy: http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/backup.htm
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tantek !tell petermolnar I think that is the key - starting with minimal plain HTML (maybe even similar / same subset as AMP) and figuring out how to do open versions of all the <amp****> stuff that's based on existing webstandards instead of googleJS
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek cweiske++ Wow. Great post on backup setup. http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/backup.htm
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Loqi cweiske has 94 karma in this channel (115 overall)
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Loqi [Christian Weiske] My backup strategy
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tantek what is backup
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Loqi A backup of an indieweb site should have everything necessary to redeploy it on a new webhost https://indieweb.org/backup
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schmarty good morning, indieweb
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tantek backup << {{cweiske}}: [http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/backup.htm My backup strategy]
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Loqi ok, I added "{{cweiske}}: [http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/backup.htm My backup strategy]" to the "See Also" section of /backup
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Loqi [Christian Weiske] My backup strategy
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petermolnar I should summarise my sync/backup/archive system as well
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Loqi petermolnar: tantek left you a message 2 minutes ago: I think that is the key - starting with minimal plain HTML (maybe even similar / same subset as AMP) and figuring out how to do open versions of all the <amp****> stuff that's based on existing webstandards instead of googleJS
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Loqi agreed.
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tantek I especially like how cweiske deliberately identifies the key information on each device that he cares about, and then how each of them is backed up / synced (sometimes differently)
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tantek (instead of just saying "back up the whole device")
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Karish[m] pls guide me on how one signs out here.
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schmarty Karish: how are you connected to the chat? via the chat.indieweb.org web interface? IRC? matrix?
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@kevinmarks @fcukign Start here: https://github.com/indieweb/blank-gh-site (twitter.com/_/status/910149842890092544)
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schmarty looks like matrix. if you're using riot.im, there is a little gear icon in the upper-right corner of the chat window. when you click it, some options will appear, including a "Leave Room" button.
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schmarty you can also type out "/part" on a line by itself, without the quotes. that is the command to leave the channel.
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Karish[m] OK
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petermolnar ::joke:: I suggest you don't try vim
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@kevinmarks @fcukign If you want to find people to help, go to Homebrew Website Club tomorrow https://indieweb.org/next-hwc (twitter.com/_/status/910151381323042818)
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@schmarty Here's a brief interview with @joshuajuran from the most recent This Week in the #IndieWeb Podcast. ? Full Episode: https://martymcgui.re/2017/09/15/224858/ https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/910168199366348800/pu/img/4MuQlPhwba9mjYTY.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/910168311895330816)
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[keithjgrant] Is ActivityStreams conceptually similar to RSS?
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@EddieHinkle Homebrew Website Club #frederickMD tomorrow come and learn how you can break free from social media control RSVP: https://eddiehinkle.com/2017/09/14/2/event/ (twitter.com/_/status/910176274668310528)
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aaronpk [keithjgrant]: not really. RSS is just describing content, but ActivityStreams wraps everything in the idea of "activities" that wrap the content. but this is probably more -> #indieweb-dev
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kitblake[m] Hi - a friend told me that Indieweb has an interesting bot that provides answers to queries. Is it in irc, or Slack, or Matrix?
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aaronpk who is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
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aaronpk all of the above!
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kitblake[m] Thanks
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bear CVE Alert - if your running Apache httpd you need to update *if* you use the LIMIT keyword in .htaccess -- details https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-9798 https://blog.fuzzing-project.org/60-Optionsbleed-HTTP-OPTIONS-method-can-leak-Apaches-server-memory.html
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kitblake[m] who is aaronpk?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Aaronparecki.com
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kitblake[m] Nice work aaronpk, among nice projects
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dgold i've done some updating of the nanopub wiki page - is that expanded information sufficient?
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dgold I'm afraid i'm still not very au fait with wikifying myseld
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sknebel dgold: I would explicitly mention on the nanopub page it works with hugo - while I think static site gen frontmatter is relatively standardized, people tend to go looking for explicitly the projects they use
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dgold oh, I hadn't thought of that, thanks sknebel
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sknebel and maybe link it from the hugo and the static site generator page
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dgold :) was just opening those
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sknebel since this comes up quite often and I often had trouble finding projects I remembered hearing about, I'd say too many references are better than to few in this case
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gRegorLove Howdy, #indieweb
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sknebel hi gRegorLove
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dgold hey ho gRegorLove
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schmarty halloo
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gRegorLove salud
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@robweychert Looking forward to computering with the people of @indiewebcamp in NYC 9/30–10/01! https://2017.indieweb.org/nyc (twitter.com/_/status/910261341235159041)
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GWG Evening
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@phpwlg Still some space left for our Meetup on Tues Sep 26th! https://www.meetup.com/PHP-Usergroup-Wellington/events/242883877/ Come learn all about IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/910281537739931648)
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tantek o rly
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@jjdelc Keep refraining myself from tweeting more until I have my #indieweb POSE blog set up (twitter.com/_/status/910290758401449985)
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