#indieweb 2017-10-04

2017-10-04 UTC
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GWG snarfed: Updated now for you.
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snarfed GWG: thanks! ooh facepiles too? can't wait to try!
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GWG It should be in the new version
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@tomwiththeweath Tomorrow is Austin Homebrew Website Club at Monkey Nest Coffee http://herestomwiththeweather.com/2017/10/03/october-4-austin-hwc/ (twitter.com/_/status/915383833477963779)
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[miklb] was trying to figure out why my repost of that was throwing an error w/bridgy, but I’m guessing it’s because it doesn’t have the syndication link?
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KartikPrabhu [miklb]: yes. if bridgy can't find a syndication copy it cannot make a "retweet" on twitter
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[jeremyzilar] Hi all ?
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KartikPrabhu [jeremyzilar]: Hi
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GWG [jeremyzilar]: Hi!!
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schmarty [jeremyzilar]: hey there!
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[tantek] Hey jz!
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techlifeweb looks like the WP Indieweb plugin latest update has some issues
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techlifeweb causes problems on the admin side of my site. I get: Fatal error: Can't use method return value in write context in plugins/indieweb/includes/class-hcard-user.php on line 495
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GWG techlifeweb, it is a versioning issue. Later versions accept it, older versions of PHP don't. I am going to make a change to address.
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Loqi Any messages?
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sebsel unfortunately I can't make it tonight, sl007 :(
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Loqi sebsel: sl007 left you a message 13 hours, 17 minutes ago: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-10-04-homebrew-website-club - there is now also Dinslaken tomorrow
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Loqi it'll be okay
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sebsel thanks Loqi, but if you do start to give out rides to HWCs like sl007 suggested: keep me posted
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Loqi you're welcome
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sknebel Good morning Indieweb!
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sebsel good morning :)
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jeremycherfas Good morning sebsel and sknebel. I have been away and out of circulation for a couple of weeks. Did I miss anything important?
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Loqi misses anything important too
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sebsel haha
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Loqi sebsel: lol
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jeremycherfas Very funny, Loqi
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sebsel I've been away and out myself too, so I won't known.
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sebsel Loqi is on fire this morning
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sebsel what time is it for Loqi?
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Loqi In Loqi's timezone, US/Pacific, it is currently 3:05am on October 4
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jeremycherfas We should pour a bucket of water on Loqi
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Loqi agreed.
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sebsel gives Loqi a bucket of water
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Loqi eats the bucket of water
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sknebel Some things have happened around ActivityPub (snarfed is building a bridgy service for it, it was implemented in mastodon) and I saw talk of releases of WP plugins
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sknebel Been quite busy myself tho
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jeremycherfas Very good. Thanks. I'm sure I'll catch up pretty quickly.
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sebsel Tonight there will be vHWC again!
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sknebel And IWC NYC happened, and Berlin is in a month!
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jeremycherfas There's a slight chance I might make it to IWC Berlin; need to check finances.
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sebsel 319 minutes until Virtual HWC, join us at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-10-04 5:29pm CEST (#6191)
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sebsel :)
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calumryan HWC London tonight, just 2 of us by the looks of it. Preparing an introductory session for MozFest later this month
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[kevinmarks] https://simonwillison.net/2017/Oct/1/ship/
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sknebel what is Quora?
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Loqi Quora is a question and answer silo https://indieweb.org/Quora
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rMdes_ getting ready to relaunch HWC.brussels, next event in november, in our new place (digityser hub in brussels) with lots of possibilities ahead #exitingtimesahead
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sknebel rMdes_: nice to hear!
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rMdes_ oh and by the way W3C VR peeps will land here in digityser https://w3c.github.io/webvr-content-workshop/ it's going to be fun !
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@manton2 Austin! We’re meeting at Monkey Nest Coffee today at 6:30pm for Homebrew Website Club. https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club (twitter.com/_/status/915582439598280704)
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Loqi Virtual HWC, join us at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi Countdown set by sebsel on 2017-10-04 at 12:10pm CEST
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sebsel I am the only attendee, muted and unvideod Appear.in, but my fans are still running at full speed :')
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sebsel I'll start with a quiet writing hour then, feel free to join.
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sknebel sebsel: will try to jo in in a few min
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jeremycherfas Sorry, can't join tonight.
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sebsel switching from FireFox to Chrome does the trick. No audible fans anymore.
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dgold don't know if this is the appropriate place but
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dgold tell chrisaldrich Your checkins show up in my woodwind with a GIGANTIC svg 'pin' graphic
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dgold !tell chrisaldrich Hey Chris, your checkins show up in my woodwind with a GIGANTIC svg 'pin' graphic
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] Rmdes_ re: HWC Brussels, can you add all past / future HWC Brussels events even just one liners with links to /Events?
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[tantek] Right now it looks like HWC Bru is dead / abandoned because there's no photos, no records of it, no permalinks, and nearly no participation here in chat or any other part of the community from anyone in Brussels
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[tantek] Only evidence I see is on twitter :(
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SpinDoctor Hello everyone! I want to know if there is something like an official press spokesperson or press contact for the IndieWeb.
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sknebel aaronpk [tantek] ^^^
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SpinDoctor Have many thanks, Sven! I learn at the moment. Therefore I don't know very much about how you are organised. The founder itself does the pr?
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SpinDoctor And why do you mention Tantek Celik?
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aaronpk we aren't an official organization, so there isn't an official "PR" person or spokesperson
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SpinDoctor What an honour. Hello, Aaron. I understand. I got to know about your initiative at the Campfire Festival 2017 in Dortmund (Germany) where I registered for an IndieWeb workshop with Sebastian Lasse.
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aaronpk ah great
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SpinDoctor The tent festival on the campus of the technical university there (they own a faculty for journalism) drowned in rain and looked like Woodstock :) But the attendants and exhibitors were great. The first event for such topics in Germany.
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Zegnat SpinDoctor, yeah, there was a short stream to show all of us who couldn’t make it around the tent set-up. It was too bad attendance was low because of the bad weather.
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sknebel SpinDoctor: we have Indieweb events regularly in Germany! a weekend event in a month in berlin (http://indieweb.org/2017/Berlin) and meetups every 2 weeks in Nürnberg and Berlin
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SpinDoctor aaronpk Zegnat sknebel – Your intention and topic as IndieWebCamp is so important for a free Europe. But it has to be "translated" to the public what you stand for and why its necessary for all of us.
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Zegnat Yeah, we have a few people who want to work on writing more “publicly accessible” (non-development) content. But time is an expensive resource I am afraid.
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SpinDoctor May be I can help you. I do editorial and pr-stuff. In my opinion you should think and look like an "Saas" to gain more attraction for end-users without any it- or coding-knowledge.
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SpinDoctor Sebastian Lasse knows me personally. If it makes sense for you that someone could organise your press "department".
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aaronpk one of the challenges right now is that there aren't enough tools ready "out of the box" to be useful to people at that level
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Zegnat How would we look like SaaS though? We have no singular product.
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aaronpk this is how we typically think of growing to reach more people: https://indieweb.org/generations
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SpinDoctor Ah, I understand. But it would be more helpful to translate everything what you do to the members of the media from the beginning. To simplify the discussion channels between your members and the press.
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SpinDoctor I think https://indiewebify.me is a very good idea.
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SpinDoctor To communicate your intentions up to the members of the media it is first of all a formal question how press-releases are written for example and how public relations are organised in general. And when it is done this way I am sure to generate much more and better press coverage than now.
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Zegnat I am mostly not sure what we would write press releases about, SpinDoctor
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Zegnat vHWC has died for me :( Sorry all barryf, sknebel, tantek.
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Zegnat I’ll go have dinner instead.
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sknebel having issues as well, trying to rejoin
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Zegnat I wonder if appear.in themselves might be having troubles, as tantek said he got a quick popup about being offline too
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[tantek] SpinDoctor do you have a website?
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amz3` !
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amz3` SpinDoctor: the goals of IndieWeb are clear, even for non programmer, afaik some non programmers participated in indieweb camp events
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amz3` s/camp//
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amz3` SpinDoctor: what is an "Saas"?
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Zegnat Software as a Service
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Zegnat What is SaaS?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "SaaS" yet. Would you like to create it?
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amz3` oh I assumed something else
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Zegnat I don’t know anything else using that word
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[tantek] Same here
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[tantek] Though it does seem ironic to use jargon while asking for an explanation to reach everyone
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amz3` SpinDoctor: I think you'd rather start an informal interview, if nobody is against the idea, than trying to convice people to have "press" section in the website
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[tantek] SpinDoctor, how would you explain "Saas" as you used it, to end-users?
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KartikPrabhu Saas is also a CSS pre-processor language
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KartikPrabhu oops that is Sass! :P
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@manton2 Might demo the new Mac app for http://Micro.blog tonight at Homebrew Website Club. Also IndieWebCamp Austin planning. (twitter.com/_/status/915668671103688705)
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tantek good afternoon #indieweb!
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Loqi [indienews/de] New post: "readability" https://notiz.blog/2017/10/04/readability/
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schmarty HWC baltimore starting our quiet writing hour
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schmarty 3 of us here
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@kevinmarks @sundarpichai You should come downstairs to Homebrew Website Club, and post it on your own site. https://indieweb.org/events/2017-10-04-homebrew-website-club #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/915710679193092096)
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[kevinmarks] In reply to https://twitter.com/sundarpichai/status/915707695277080576
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@sundarpichai Taking my Pixel 2 for a spin on a beautiful SF day :) #nofilter #madebyGoogle https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLU_R_-VYAAd7fI.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/915707695277080576)
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aaronpk lol
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schmarty haha
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Loqi hahahaha
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schmarty 4 of us now at HWC Baltimore
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[eddie] No so quiet writing hour is on-going in Frederick ?
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[miklb] evening y’all
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tantek evening miklb
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[miklb] So I’ve wanted to do an IW talk locally for over a year, and am going to do my best to do it at our local Barcamp, which isn’t really a barcamp in the traditional sense.
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[miklb] I have 2 weeks
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aaronpk exciting!
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[miklb] Someone did a talk recently that I think would be good to crib from for the audience I’d be talking to.
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[miklb] Need to grep the logs to find the slides
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@DreamHost Hoping everyone who attends at @indiewebcamp tonight has a productive and enjoyable evening! #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/915725255213305857)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @kevinmarks" by Scott Kingery on 2017-10-04 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-kevinmarks-3/
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KartikPrabhu [miklb]: this one: https://keithjgrant.com/talks/decentralized-web/#/ ?
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[miklb] yes. I knew it was a Keith but we have more than one ?
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KartikPrabhu my browser history did the thing
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KartikPrabhu possibly an advantage of owning your content
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snarfed [miklb]: i'm also selfishly fond of this one i gave a bit ago as a quick (5-10m) intro: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-06-09-dwebsummit-indieweb
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[miklb] snarfed, I have that one bookmarked already from previous thought organizing on putting together a talk ?
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