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# 00:51 snarfed GWG: thanks! ooh facepiles too? can't wait to try!
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# 01:26 [miklb] was trying to figure out why my repost of that was throwing an error w/bridgy, but I’m guessing it’s because it doesn’t have the syndication link?
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# 01:47 KartikPrabhu [miklb]: yes. if bridgy can't find a syndication copy it cannot make a "retweet" on twitter
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# 04:59 techlifeweb causes problems on the admin side of my site. I get: Fatal error: Can't use method return value in write context in plugins/indieweb/includes/class-hcard-user.php on line 495
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# 05:39 GWG techlifeweb, it is a versioning issue. Later versions accept it, older versions of PHP don't. I am going to make a change to address.
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# 09:26 sebsel unfortunately I can't make it tonight, sl007 :(
# 09:27 sebsel thanks Loqi, but if you do start to give out rides to HWCs like sl007 suggested: keep me posted
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# 10:02 jeremycherfas Good morning sebsel and sknebel. I have been away and out of circulation for a couple of weeks. Did I miss anything important?
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# 10:05 sebsel I've been away and out myself too, so I won't known.
# 10:05 Loqi In Loqi's timezone, US/Pacific, it is currently 3:05am on October 4
# 10:07 sknebel Some things have happened around ActivityPub (snarfed is building a bridgy service for it, it was implemented in mastodon) and I saw talk of releases of WP plugins
# 10:09 jeremycherfas There's a slight chance I might make it to IWC Berlin; need to check finances.
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# 10:10 Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-10-04 5:29pm CEST (#6191)
# 10:17 calumryan HWC London tonight, just 2 of us by the looks of it. Preparing an introductory session for MozFest later this month
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# 13:58 rMdes_ getting ready to relaunch HWC.brussels, next event in november, in our new place (digityser hub in brussels) with lots of possibilities ahead #exitingtimesahead
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# 15:31 Loqi Countdown set by sebsel on 2017-10-04 at 12:10pm CEST
# 15:40 sebsel I am the only attendee, muted and unvideod Appear.in, but my fans are still running at full speed :')
# 15:40 sebsel I'll start with a quiet writing hour then, feel free to join.
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# 15:50 sebsel switching from FireFox to Chrome does the trick. No audible fans anymore.
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# 16:21 dgold don't know if this is the appropriate place but
# 16:23 dgold tell chrisaldrich Your checkins show up in my woodwind with a GIGANTIC svg 'pin' graphic
# 16:23 dgold !tell chrisaldrich Hey Chris, your checkins show up in my woodwind with a GIGANTIC svg 'pin' graphic
# 16:23 Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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# 16:28 [tantek] Rmdes_ re: HWC Brussels, can you add all past / future HWC Brussels events even just one liners with links to /Events?
# 16:29 [tantek] Right now it looks like HWC Bru is dead / abandoned because there's no photos, no records of it, no permalinks, and nearly no participation here in chat or any other part of the community from anyone in Brussels
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# 16:45 SpinDoctor Hello everyone! I want to know if there is something like an official press spokesperson or press contact for the IndieWeb.
# 16:58 SpinDoctor Have many thanks, Sven! I learn at the moment. Therefore I don't know very much about how you are organised. The founder itself does the pr?
# 16:59 SpinDoctor And why do you mention Tantek Celik?
# 16:59 aaronpk we aren't an official organization, so there isn't an official "PR" person or spokesperson
# 17:02 SpinDoctor What an honour. Hello, Aaron. I understand. I got to know about your initiative at the Campfire Festival 2017 in Dortmund (Germany) where I registered for an IndieWeb workshop with Sebastian Lasse.
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# 17:04 SpinDoctor The tent festival on the campus of the technical university there (they own a faculty for journalism) drowned in rain and looked like Woodstock :) But the attendants and exhibitors were great. The first event for such topics in Germany.
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# 17:07 Zegnat SpinDoctor, yeah, there was a short stream to show all of us who couldn’t make it around the tent set-up. It was too bad attendance was low because of the bad weather.
# 17:08 SpinDoctor aaronpk Zegnat sknebel – Your intention and topic as IndieWebCamp is so important for a free Europe. But it has to be "translated" to the public what you stand for and why its necessary for all of us.
# 17:11 Zegnat Yeah, we have a few people who want to work on writing more “publicly accessible” (non-development) content. But time is an expensive resource I am afraid.
# 17:12 SpinDoctor May be I can help you. I do editorial and pr-stuff. In my opinion you should think and look like an "Saas" to gain more attraction for end-users without any it- or coding-knowledge.
# 17:16 SpinDoctor Sebastian Lasse knows me personally. If it makes sense for you that someone could organise your press "department".
# 17:16 aaronpk one of the challenges right now is that there aren't enough tools ready "out of the box" to be useful to people at that level
# 17:16 Zegnat How would we look like SaaS though? We have no singular product.
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# 17:27 SpinDoctor Ah, I understand. But it would be more helpful to translate everything what you do to the members of the media from the beginning. To simplify the discussion channels between your members and the press.
# 17:32 SpinDoctor To communicate your intentions up to the members of the media it is first of all a formal question how press-releases are written for example and how public relations are organised in general. And when it is done this way I am sure to generate much more and better press coverage than now.
# 17:33 Zegnat I am mostly not sure what we would write press releases about, SpinDoctor
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# 17:48 Zegnat vHWC has died for me :( Sorry all barryf, sknebel, tantek.
# 17:49 Zegnat I wonder if appear.in themselves might be having troubles, as tantek said he got a quick popup about being offline too
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# 18:16 amz3` SpinDoctor: the goals of IndieWeb are clear, even for non programmer, afaik some non programmers participated in indieweb camp events
# 18:17 amz3` SpinDoctor: what is an "Saas"?
# 18:20 amz3` oh I assumed something else
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# 18:27 [tantek] Though it does seem ironic to use jargon while asking for an explanation to reach everyone
# 18:29 amz3` SpinDoctor: I think you'd rather start an informal interview, if nobody is against the idea, than trying to convice people to have "press" section in the website
# 18:29 [tantek] SpinDoctor, how would you explain "Saas" as you used it, to end-users?
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# 22:55 [eddie] No so quiet writing hour is on-going in Frederick ?
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# 23:39 [miklb] So I’ve wanted to do an IW talk locally for over a year, and am going to do my best to do it at our local Barcamp, which isn’t really a barcamp in the traditional sense.
# 23:44 [miklb] Someone did a talk recently that I think would be good to crib from for the audience I’d be talking to.
# 23:50 [miklb] yes. I knew it was a Keith but we have more than one ?
# 23:53 [miklb] snarfed, I have that one bookmarked already from previous thought organizing on putting together a talk ?
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