#indieweb 2017-10-04

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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas
Loqi Any messages?
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sebsel
unfortunately I can't make it tonight, sl007 :(
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Loqi
sebsel: sl007 left you a message 13 hours, 17 minutes ago: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-10-04-homebrew-website-club - there is now also Dinslaken tomorrow
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Loqi
it'll be okay
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sebsel
thanks Loqi, but if you do start to give out rides to HWCs like sl007 suggested: keep me posted
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Loqi
you're welcome
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sknebel
Good morning Indieweb!
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sebsel
good morning :)
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jeremycherfas
Good morning sebsel and sknebel. I have been away and out of circulation for a couple of weeks. Did I miss anything important?
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Loqi
misses anything important too
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Loqi
sebsel: lol
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jeremycherfas
Very funny, Loqi
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sebsel
I've been away and out myself too, so I won't known.
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sebsel
Loqi is on fire this morning
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sebsel
what time is it for Loqi?
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Loqi
In Loqi's timezone, US/Pacific, it is currently 3:05am on October 4
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jeremycherfas
We should pour a bucket of water on Loqi
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Loqi
agreed.
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sebsel
gives Loqi a bucket of water
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Loqi
eats the bucket of water
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sknebel
Some things have happened around ActivityPub (snarfed is building a bridgy service for it, it was implemented in mastodon) and I saw talk of releases of WP plugins
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sknebel
Been quite busy myself tho
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jeremycherfas
Very good. Thanks. I'm sure I'll catch up pretty quickly.
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sebsel
Tonight there will be vHWC again!
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sknebel
And IWC NYC happened, and Berlin is in a month!
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jeremycherfas
There's a slight chance I might make it to IWC Berlin; need to check finances.
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sebsel
319 minutes until Virtual HWC, join us at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-10-04 5:29pm CEST (#6191)
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calumryan
HWC London tonight, just 2 of us by the looks of it. Preparing an introductory session for MozFest later this month
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sknebel
what is Quora?
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Loqi
Quora is a question and answer silo https://indieweb.org/Quora
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rMdes_
getting ready to relaunch HWC.brussels, next event in november, in our new place (digityser hub in brussels) with lots of possibilities ahead #exitingtimesahead
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sknebel
rMdes_: nice to hear!
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rMdes_
oh and by the way W3C VR peeps will land here in digityser https://w3c.github.io/webvr-content-workshop/ it's going to be fun !
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@manton2
Austin! We’re meeting at Monkey Nest Coffee today at 6:30pm for Homebrew Website Club. https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club
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Loqi
Virtual HWC, join us at https://appear.in/hwc
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Loqi
Countdown set by sebsel on 2017-10-04 at 12:10pm CEST
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sebsel
I am the only attendee, muted and unvideod Appear.in, but my fans are still running at full speed :')
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sebsel
I'll start with a quiet writing hour then, feel free to join.
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sknebel
sebsel: will try to jo in in a few min
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jeremycherfas
Sorry, can't join tonight.
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sebsel
switching from FireFox to Chrome does the trick. No audible fans anymore.
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dgold
don't know if this is the appropriate place but
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dgold
tell chrisaldrich Your checkins show up in my woodwind with a GIGANTIC svg 'pin' graphic
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dgold
!tell chrisaldrich Hey Chris, your checkins show up in my woodwind with a GIGANTIC svg 'pin' graphic
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek]
Rmdes_ re: HWC Brussels, can you add all past / future HWC Brussels events even just one liners with links to /Events?
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[tantek]
Right now it looks like HWC Bru is dead / abandoned because there's no photos, no records of it, no permalinks, and nearly no participation here in chat or any other part of the community from anyone in Brussels
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[tantek]
Only evidence I see is on twitter :(
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SpinDoctor
Hello everyone! I want to know if there is something like an official press spokesperson or press contact for the IndieWeb.
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sknebel
aaronpk [tantek] ^^^
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SpinDoctor
Have many thanks, Sven! I learn at the moment. Therefore I don't know very much about how you are organised. The founder itself does the pr?
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SpinDoctor
And why do you mention Tantek Celik?
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aaronpk
we aren't an official organization, so there isn't an official "PR" person or spokesperson
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SpinDoctor
What an honour. Hello, Aaron. I understand. I got to know about your initiative at the Campfire Festival 2017 in Dortmund (Germany) where I registered for an IndieWeb workshop with Sebastian Lasse.
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aaronpk
ah great
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SpinDoctor
The tent festival on the campus of the technical university there (they own a faculty for journalism) drowned in rain and looked like Woodstock :) But the attendants and exhibitors were great. The first event for such topics in Germany.
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Zegnat
SpinDoctor, yeah, there was a short stream to show all of us who couldn’t make it around the tent set-up. It was too bad attendance was low because of the bad weather.
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sknebel
SpinDoctor: we have Indieweb events regularly in Germany! a weekend event in a month in berlin (http://indieweb.org/2017/Berlin) and meetups every 2 weeks in Nürnberg and Berlin
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SpinDoctor
aaronpk Zegnat sknebel – Your intention and topic as IndieWebCamp is so important for a free Europe. But it has to be "translated" to the public what you stand for and why its necessary for all of us.
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Zegnat
Yeah, we have a few people who want to work on writing more “publicly accessible” (non-development) content. But time is an expensive resource I am afraid.
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SpinDoctor
May be I can help you. I do editorial and pr-stuff. In my opinion you should think and look like an "Saas" to gain more attraction for end-users without any it- or coding-knowledge.
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SpinDoctor
Sebastian Lasse knows me personally. If it makes sense for you that someone could organise your press "department".
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aaronpk
one of the challenges right now is that there aren't enough tools ready "out of the box" to be useful to people at that level
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Zegnat
How would we look like SaaS though? We have no singular product.
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aaronpk
this is how we typically think of growing to reach more people: https://indieweb.org/generations
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SpinDoctor
Ah, I understand. But it would be more helpful to translate everything what you do to the members of the media from the beginning. To simplify the discussion channels between your members and the press.
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SpinDoctor
I think https://indiewebify.me is a very good idea.
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SpinDoctor
To communicate your intentions up to the members of the media it is first of all a formal question how press-releases are written for example and how public relations are organised in general. And when it is done this way I am sure to generate much more and better press coverage than now.
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Zegnat
I am mostly not sure what we would write press releases about, SpinDoctor
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Zegnat
vHWC has died for me :( Sorry all barryf, sknebel, tantek.
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Zegnat
I’ll go have dinner instead.
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sknebel
having issues as well, trying to rejoin
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Zegnat
I wonder if appear.in themselves might be having troubles, as tantek said he got a quick popup about being offline too
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[tantek]
SpinDoctor do you have a website?
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amz3`
!
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amz3`
SpinDoctor: the goals of IndieWeb are clear, even for non programmer, afaik some non programmers participated in indieweb camp events
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amz3`
s/camp//
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amz3`
SpinDoctor: what is an "Saas"?
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Zegnat
Software as a Service
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Zegnat
What is SaaS?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "SaaS" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10uP
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amz3`
oh I assumed something else
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Zegnat
I don’t know anything else using that word
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[tantek]
Same here
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[tantek]
Though it does seem ironic to use jargon while asking for an explanation to reach everyone
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amz3`
SpinDoctor: I think you'd rather start an informal interview, if nobody is against the idea, than trying to convice people to have "press" section in the website
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[tantek]
SpinDoctor, how would you explain "Saas" as you used it, to end-users?
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KartikPrabhu
Saas is also a CSS pre-processor language
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KartikPrabhu
oops that is Sass! :P
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@manton2
Might demo the new Mac app for http://Micro.blog tonight at Homebrew Website Club. Also IndieWebCamp Austin planning.
(twtr.io/1WreHTQRDXk)
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tantek
good afternoon #indieweb!
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Loqi
[indienews/de] New post: "readability" https://notiz.blog/2017/10/04/readability/
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schmarty
HWC baltimore starting our quiet writing hour
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schmarty
3 of us here
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@kevinmarks
@sundarpichai You should come downstairs to Homebrew Website Club, and post it on your own site. https://indieweb.org/events/2017-10-04-homebrew-website-club #indieweb
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@sundarpichai
Taking my Pixel 2 for a spin on a beautiful SF day :) #nofilter #madebyGoogle https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLU_R_-VYAAd7fI.jpg
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Loqi
hahahaha
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schmarty
4 of us now at HWC Baltimore
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[eddie]
No so quiet writing hour is on-going in Frederick 🙂
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[miklb]
evening y’all
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tantek
evening miklb
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[miklb]
So I’ve wanted to do an IW talk locally for over a year, and am going to do my best to do it at our local Barcamp, which isn’t really a barcamp in the traditional sense.
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[miklb]
I have 2 weeks
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aaronpk
exciting!
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[miklb]
Someone did a talk recently that I think would be good to crib from for the audience I’d be talking to.
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[miklb]
Need to grep the logs to find the slides
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@DreamHost
Hoping everyone who attends at @indiewebcamp tonight has a productive and enjoyable evening! #IndieWeb
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @kevinmarks" by Scott Kingery on 2017-10-04 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-kevinmarks-3/
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[miklb]
yes. I knew it was a Keith but we have more than one 😛
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KartikPrabhu
my browser history did the thing
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KartikPrabhu
possibly an advantage of owning your content
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snarfed
[miklb]: i'm also selfishly fond of this one i gave a bit ago as a quick (5-10m) intro: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-06-09-dwebsummit-indieweb
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[miklb]
snarfed, I have that one bookmarked already from previous thought organizing on putting together a talk 👍
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aaronpk
HWC PDX is kicking off
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mdcox
Woo! Hey from the PDX meetup :D
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@manton2
Small but productive Homebrew Website Club meetup. Brainstormed venue ideas for IndieWebCamp Austin and have ... http://www.manton.org/2017/10/5804.html
(twtr.io/1Ws49EMMmNw)
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aaronpk
anomalily: anomalily.net
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aaronpk
my site is on wordpress. im launching a kickstarter next week, so im going to work on that tonight and add a link to it on my site.
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aaronpk
aaron built a website for my trip, anomalily.world which was for my trip last month
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aaronpk
it has my foursquare checkins and gps location on it
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aaronpk
michael: michaelkirschbaum.com
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aaronpk
i was recently able to take over the website from a lawyer who has my name
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aaronpk
still deciding whether to use jekyll. had some ideas for some CSS to use
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aaronpk
matt: no website yet
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aaronpk
goal is by the end of this, ill have something to show
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aaronpk
i do a lot of projects that dont go anywhere but are interesting
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aaronpk
itd be great to have somewher eto show that
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aaronpk
working on a thing to identify twitter comunities
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aaronpk
edwin: adventurecallsus.com
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aaronpk
ive had it about a year and was blogging every day. two months ago i lost momentum
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aaronpk
so tonight i hope to update it. i like the idea of microblogging.
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aaronpk
instead of trying to come up with something big
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aaronpk
michelle: michellejl.com
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aaronpk
i am learning pattern lab which is a design system thing
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aaronpk
so even though my site is built im building a pattern lab for it
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aaronpk
which is kind of backwards
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aaronpk
katherine: frenziedsilence.com
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aaronpk
his is my art site
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aaronpk
i kind of want to try out the microblogging thing. this is wordpress so i have it set up to post to twitter and facebook and stuff
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aaronpk
i want to switch it to percentage width instead of pixels, i built this on my desktop which still has a 15 year old 4:3 ratio monitor
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aaronpk
i run a website for a nonprofit that teaches music, which i designed 10 years ago and is in desperate need of review
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mdcox
Alright, have decided on badtuple.me for the site...nothing up yet, but racing to have something by the end of this meetup :P
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aaronpk
pdx demos!
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aaronpk
edwin: installed the SNAP plugin
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aaronpk
and wrote a blog post
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aaronpk
badtuple.me:
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aaronpk
it's lorem ipsum right now but this was setting up the server and everything
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aaronpk
running jekyll
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aaronpk
it's really nice
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aaronpk
michael: i brokemy website
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aaronpk
it doesnt make sense as a blog, so im moving away from jekyll
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aaronpk
and turning it into a portfolio
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aaronpk
(discussion about tradeoffs of blogging on medium, vs pointing your domain to it, etc)
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aaronpk
katherine: changed my css to percentage instead of pixels
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aaronpk
also discovered that my image alignment problem has to do with the jetpack carousel plugin and need to find a workaround for that
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aaronpk
michelle: i got more parts of the pattern lab working.
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[michellejl]
maybe if you are on the same wifi it will show? maybe
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aaronpk
this generates the css for the theme
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aaronpk
its taking a style guide and turning it into code so that it's always followed
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aaronpk
aaronpk: i pulled up that URL on my computer connected to the TV here, and as michelle scrolls on he rcomputer it's also scrolling my screen
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aaronpk
aaronpk: last demo. I took the blog post draft I started last month, did some copyediting on it and took a photo for it and published it
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] Passwordless Logins for Your Website
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