#indieweb 2017-10-31

2017-10-31 UTC
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gRegorLove Good adactio post about AMP: https://adactio.com/journal/13035
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Loqi [Jeremy Keith] The meaning of AMP
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gRegorLove Wow, can't believe it's already 2018-01-01 commitments time. This year has flown by.
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aaronpk oh my
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tantek seriously
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@mrkrndvs IndieWebify.Me - a guide to getting you on the IndieWeb https://indiewebify.me/ (twitter.com/_/status/925166627947151360)
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aaronpk hm i wonder if i can sign up with bridgy to get tweets about my microcast episodes to show up on the site
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[keithjgrant] https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html
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@jackyalcine The IndieWeb is an interesting space. In the activism space, it makes a lot more sense - pulling out of MSM tools and moving freely (twitter.com/_/status/925239394264420357)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "GitHub goes IndieWeb For a minute I thought that Github had gone all IndieWeb by changing color/branding to match that of the IndieWeb.org website and logos. Then I realized that it was probably just a one day Halloween thing. Alas… Happy Halloween IndieWebbers! 🎃" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-10-31 http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/31/github-goes-indieweb/
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@ChrisAldrich GitHub goes #IndieWeb for Halloween! #trickortreat http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/31/github-goes-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/925270759307608064)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Quote Tweet Microcast" https://unicyclic.com/mal/2017-10-31-Quote_Tweet_Microcast
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Loqi [superfeedr] "For wider adoption, your best bet is probably to pare down WordPress a tad and see what you can make of it. I know David" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-10-31 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/for-wider-adoption-your-best-bet-is-probably-to-pare
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@JayGreasley @ldodds @jobsworth I’m glad you did share this in-platform, else I would have missed it. Maybe sharing in and on platform is key, like https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/925276861978042374)
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Zegnat Hellow IndieWeb
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GWG Howdy
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Zegnat How is everyone on this spooky day?
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GWG Jetlagged still
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GWG Hoping to get my body back into sync in time to wake up early for IWC Berlin
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GWG So I can throw it out of sync again
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calumryan Hello from Berlin
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Zegnat Traveled early or there for other business calumryan?
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Zegnat GWG will you do what I did for PDX and remotely attend the whole time?
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GWG Zegnat: I may try. It depends on how good the sound is. Who set up the sound?
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calumryan Zegnat: at a conference yesterday, spending time between now and IWC working/sightseeting
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Zegnat I am not sure who is handling the remote stuff. Maybe the venue? Maybe jkphl?
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jeremycherfas I'm not sure I will be able to attend all of IWC Berlin remotely, but I hope to be there for some of it.
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Zegnat That would be great jeremycherfas! :)
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Zegnat I listened to your last podcast on Apples on my commute today btw
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jeremycherfas How did you like it? A lot more music than I usually have.
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Zegnat I thought the lost history of certain grafts was super interesting, something I had never considered. I might download a few more episodes for the ride to Germany.
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jeremycherfas Cool. Do let me know if there's anything I can do to improve matters.
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jeremycherfas Audiosear.ch is shutting down https://www.audiosear.ch
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aaronpk huh i wonder if that's related to https://www.popuparchive.com/ shutting down
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aaronpk they have the same CEO listed in their terms of service so i am guessing it's the same company
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jeremycherfas Yes, I think they are (were?) two parts of the same overall idea.
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jeremycherfas I never really took to it, as it seemed far too focussed on the already popular. So not much help for discovery.
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[miklb] hmm. force people to pay you to get a reply email https://earn.com
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[miklb] though you can donate the $ to charity
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aaronpk i was gonna say that sounded familiar, looks like they just renamed themselves
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aaronpk wonder how much VC money it took to get that domain
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jeremycherfas Would you consider popuparchive a silo?
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aaronpk i don't think so, looks more like a service
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aaronpk they don't host content for public consumption, right?
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jeremycherfas Fair enough.
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aaronpk ah they do have an "embeddable transcript player" you can use, so that's close
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jeremycherfas Well, they host stuff for public-facing players
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jeremycherfas Snap
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aaronpk i do think that's a secondary aspect though. primarily it's a transcription service.
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aaronpk but it does mean people will lose data that they're hosting there if they don't export it first
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jeremycherfas And presumably people who are making use of the service will hve to find places to store and ways to share. But that's not our concern.
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jeremycherfas Interesting; they had an option to store audio files at the Internet Archive.
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aaronpk well i added them to /site-deaths
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Zegnat Wow, I timed out?!
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@LukasRosenstock Good #IndieWeb thoughts by @petermolnar. How far goes #ownyourdata? Ephemeral vs. permanent, backfeed legality etc. https://petermolnar.net/making-things-private/ (twitter.com/_/status/925392586268971010)
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@RealGuerillero @emax That is the problem of all Silos https://indieweb.org/silo (twitter.com/_/status/925412542243135489)
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@ChrisAldrich @RealGuerillero @emax The flip side of the terrible coin: https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/925425270009495552)
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@aaronpk Re: https://twitter.com/apparentlymart, @apparentlymart Just noticed you're in Portland! Would be great to see you at the next Homebrew Website Club… (twitter.com/_/status/925433700791103488)
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@aaronpk @apparentlymart Just noticed you're in Portland! Would be great to see you at the next Homebrew Website Club meetup! http://calagator.org/events/1250471747 (twitter.com/_/status/925433759821791232)
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club PDX on Wednesday, Nov 8, 5:30pm at DreamHost
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aaronpk whoops
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tantek lol wut
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aaronpk apparently silopub prepends the whole in-reply-to URL if it's not a tweet URL
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gRegorLove reading https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html
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@manton2 Instead of a formal Homebrew Website Club this week, we’re meeting at Radio Coffee, 6:30pm tomorrow. IndieWebCamp planning. Welcome to join! (twitter.com/_/status/925460696229347331)
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gRegorLove Well, that was a depressing read.
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gRegorLove (Article, not the tweet)
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raretrack I couldn't get on with those abbreviations, what's that all about? Detracted from readability.
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gRegorLove Stock exchange symbols, I think
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gRegorLove But yeah, a bit odd.
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KartikPrabhu yeah those are stock ticker abbreviations
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tantek wow apparently FB's On This Day shows posts that you were tagged in that you didn't write!
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tantek is at AEASF
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tantek Eric Meyer is speaking
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tantek buried in FB prefs: On This Day Preferences / Filters / People or Dates - edit specific ones you don't want to be reminded of
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tantek apparently Eric Meyer has a blog post about it on his site meyerweb.com
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tantek but you can't block a holiday every year - you have to edit every instance
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gRegorLove Think that post ^ is: https://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2015/10/16/a-more-compassionate-facebook/
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tantek gRegorLove++
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Loqi gregorlove has 107 karma in this channel (184 overall)
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Zegnat Way back when that post came up I configured the date to something weird I believe, making it so Facebook never proposes On This Day posts to me.
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@ChrisAldrich @khurtwilliams POSSE for WordPress can be tricky in part because, compared to most other IndieWeb pieces for… http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/khurtwilliams-posse-for-wordpress-can-be-tricky-in-part-because (twitter.com/_/status/925479742169600000)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@khurtwilliams POSSE for WordPress can be tricky in part because, compared to most other IndieWeb pieces for WordPress, there are multiple different and varying ways" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-10-31 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/khurtwilliams-posse-for-wordpress-can-be-tricky-in-part-because
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benwerd wonders if he has any messages
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 2017-09-21 at 12:27am UTC: I'm convinced the current purple/yellow styling of werd.io is turning you off to tweeting/blogging on your own site
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 2017-09-27 at 4:43am UTC: this one is for you, tweetstormer: https://twitter.com/chriscoyier/status/912426652310917122
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tantek whoa
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benwerd Actually the thing that was preventing me is I screwed up my htaccess so both http and https worked, but I can only log in with the latter. Fixed it.
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tantek oh!
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tantek and you reverted your styling too
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benwerd it stopped being hilarious
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benwerd might be about time to change my bg again though
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[cleverdevil] Its Halloween time, benwerd, you should consider a Stranger Things themed website ?
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[cleverdevil] ?
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tantek agreed re: Halloween theming!
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tantek is anyone here doing that?
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tantek on their personal site?
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aaronpk i totally forgot
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tantek anyone see the GitHub customization?
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aaronpk yes thanks to chrisaldrich!
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aaronpk i might have to make some holiday CSS for my site ahead of time so it's ready for various holidays
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[cleverdevil] That would be a fun plugin to write ?
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[cleverdevil] I may do something like that for Christmas, if I have some time.
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tantek well if no one here is doing it, then no reason to create the page yet
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@jdp23 @emptywheel @Matt_Cagle "dissidents" have other options like @dreamwidth @ello, Mastodon, Codename: #exodus, @withknown , #indieweb, maybe @mewe (twitter.com/_/status/925500105473396736)
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gRegorLove What is dreamwidth
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "dreamwidth" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove What is livejournal?
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Loqi LiveJournal is a declining blogging silo https://indieweb.org/LiveJournal
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tantek wait is anyone still using ello
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gRegorLove Dreamwidth is an open source social networking site based on [[LiveJournal]] code https://www.dreamwidth.org
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Loqi ok
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tantek cool that withknown got its own recognition beyond #indieweb :)
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tantek interesting
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gRegorLove I still have an ello account and logged in a month or so ago. So no, not really "using ello" :)
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tantek is it worth screenshotting (logged in state) before it dies?
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tantek just to capture the design ideas / decisions?
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tantek especially their "reader"?
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tantek since that's still a big #Indieweb challenge?
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aaronpk plz capture screenshots of their reader interface!
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tantek BTW my FB notifications UI just changed today
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tantek to "show me more important notifications first, instead of just by recency" (paraphrased"
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tantek the "algorithm" at work!
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gRegorLove Looks like Ello has changed the stream to more Pinterest-y style tiles. Hm
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gRegorLove Since it is a lot of artists on there
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tantek more reasons to screenshot their reader!
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tantek maybe it has a preference to set it back the old way? screenshot both!
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gRegorLove Weird, I'm not even sure where *my* stream of people I'm following is.
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tantek not your home page? ello.co when logged in?
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gRegorLove https://ello.co/following is like a discovery thing, listing people I don't follow.
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gRegorLove (Will screenshot shortly)
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tantek anything on /ello ?
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gRegorLove Homepage is like an ello-curated list of things and blog posts
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gRegorLove But there's also a separate /discover page
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tantek weird
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gRegorLove Maybe because the 12 people I followed years ago don't really use it, they put a bunch of suggestions in /following so it's not empty. Nothing under preferences though.
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gRegorLove Took some screenshots, will upload later.
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aaronpk tbh i'm not a huge fan of this trend to fill readers with suggested people to follow
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gRegorLove I don't really consider this a good example for a reader period, heh.
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gRegorLove https://ello.co/discover is public.
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gRegorLove /following has the same layout without the categories at the top, or that banner for submitting your work
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gRegorLove Profiles have a similar layout, which really doesn't look great if you have only text posts :) https://ello.co/gregorlove
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gRegorLove Hah, help page is https://ello.co/wtf/
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