#indieweb 2017-11-12

2017-11-12 UTC
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[keithjgrant] What should the p-name be? "note"?
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[miklb] I _think_ the content of the note is also the p-name when it’s a note.
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KartikPrabhu for a note you can skip any p-name or you can set the p-name = e-content for post-type-discovery
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Why we built Known" by Ben Werdmüller on 2015-12-08 https://werd.io/2015/why-is-known-the-best-way-to-solve-your-community
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Two years of being on the #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller on 2015-07-11 https://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb
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tantek y u keep repeating yourself superfeedr?
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tantek Y U NO REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAW SUPERFEEDR?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Considering releasing a stripped-down copy of my blog setup as a Hugo-based IndieWeb starter kit… ?" on 2017-11-11 https://keithjgrant.com/notes/2017/11/71334/
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@billbennettnz WordPress and Indieweb: Take control of your online presence — 6:30 GridAKL Nov 30 Come & learn about the Indieweb https://billbennett.co.nz/wordpress-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/929544524388536321)
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GWG Regrettably, I'm too busy to stop by New Zealand.
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@michaeltwofish @miklb yep, completely understand. ❤️ that making IndieWeb stronger is part of the equation. (twitter.com/_/status/929557937323831296)
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tantek sometimes I start a post with a note, and sometimes with a photo, but then add the other. I wonder if I should present them any differently
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tantek regardless I want to POSSE the photos of such posts to Twitter/FB/Flickr/IG
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tantek I think multiphotos work well for this because I don't have to just pick one photo. I can start with one, and add more as I write the note/caption.
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[eddie] From Ulysses regarding Micropub publishing option “Adding this is already on our to-do list, though. I can't make any concrete promises about this yet, but thanks for bringing this up!”
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[eddie] It was already on their to do list!!! Whoa! Wonder how it got there??
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@DHarvey Join me at WordPress November Meetup - Bill Bennett, the Indieweb. http://meetu.ps/e/DhZh8/4ZJq8/a (twitter.com/_/status/929602337139712000)
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tantek perhaps, when in doubt about multiple photos for a multiphoto post, choose fewer, or even just one
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tantek whoa when did Bridgy get the upgrade to support 280 chars?!?
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tantek bridgy++
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Loqi bridgy has 54 karma in this channel (64 overall)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I was just surfing my way through @huffduffer and thought: @schmarty and @andrewhazlett should know each other if they haven't managed to meet yet. #IndieWeb" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-12 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/i-was-just-surfing-my-way-through-huffduffer-and-thought
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jeremycherfas Hello IndieWeb Slow Sunday, but always good to keep this open in case something interesting happens, which it usually does.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Amazing work from @chrisaldrich explaining how and why he's gone about bringing his blogroll into the 21st century. I'm honoured to be on the list," by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-11-12 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/amazing-work-from-chrisaldrich-explaining-how-and-why-hes-gone
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Zegnat Slow Sundays can be great motivators sometimes.
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jeremycherfas Hello zegnat. Yes indeed. I've been having some problems with posting photos that I might be able to tackle later.
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@IndieWebCampDE Fotos vom #IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017 letzte Woche, geknipst von @xandruCea & @jkphl: https://www.flickr.com/photos/tollwerk/sets/72157688360417321 https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/DObTBkEWkAUguw0.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/929662478878957568)
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@jkphl Photos of our @indiewebcamp in Berlin last week, brought to you by @xandruCea & yours truly:… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/929661722725683200 (twitter.com/_/status/929661722725683200)
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sebsel morning IndieWeb :)
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sebsel Slow Sunday for me too
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Loqi [superfeedr] "TIL — There is a format called ‘mhtml’ that inlines assets" by stefan judis on 2017-11-12 https://medium.com/@stefanjudis/til-there-is-a-format-called-mhtml-that-inlines-assets-55199f818193?source=rss-------1
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dgold if I change my webmentions endpoint, say from voxpelli's system to webmention.io, do I lose all my existing mentions?
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sebsel dgold the mentions exist on pages all over the internet, so no, they do not go away
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sebsel a webmention is just a notification that there is something to be found, so the logs of those notifications could be lost.
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sebsel Wether your site shows the old received webmentions totally depends on how your site stores and shows them
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sebsel whether*
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dgold yeah, it doesn't store them at all, it just pulls them from the heroku endpoint voxpelli created
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dgold this being the drawback of SSG
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sebsel what is SSG?
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Loqi Static site generators are programs that take a set of flat text files on disk and transforms them into a set of static html files ready to be served by a standard web server, or some variation of this example https://indieweb.org/SSG
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sebsel ah!
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sebsel Yeah, then I guess you will not lose existing displayed mentions :)
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aaronpk well this is the problem of dynamically displaying your webmentions, since you could definitely have baked the comments in to the static site content like some people do
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sebsel Oh no you *will* lose them. beh.
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aaronpk you can always show them from both places
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dgold oh, I'd not thought of that
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dgold aaronpk: I've been looking for, but not found, a method of doing that
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dgold perhaps i'm looking in the wrong places
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aaronpk aaron gustafson has written about his setup https://www.aaron-gustafson.com/notebook/enabling-webmentions-in-jekyll/
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Loqi [Aaron Gustafson] Enabling Webmentions in Jekyll
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[kevinmarks] You could fetch the json from both and inject it in a common style
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dgold i wouldn't even know where to start with that, [kevinmarks]
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sebsel I think the specifics are more for #indieweb-dev
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dgold fairy nuff
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Learning from the past" by Colin Walker on 2017-11-12 https://colinwalker.blog/2017/11/12/learning-from-the-past/
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tantek that's a good article on the vulnerability of an effectively monoculture ecosystem (Google Reader dominating RSS reading)
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tantek "fear of a big tech company usurping an open platform could be realised and this custom implementation may become synonymous with the technology itself."
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tantek also interesting conclusion about Webmention being fundamentally immune to that effect due to the peer-to-peer nature of the protocol
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dgold oh, yay, my stupid throwaway servers are back online
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dgold cloudatcost - great for something to just throw stuff together and test things, really really bad choice for production servers
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[colinwalker] Thanks Loqi
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Loqi you're welcome
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dgold aaronpk: I think that Loqi's irc->slack is a little non-workingy
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aaronpk was that delayed?
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dgold showing all posts in dev as coming from one or two people
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@BarryLooney WordPress and Indieweb: Take control of your online presence — 6:30 GridAKL Nov 30 - Geekzone http://dlvr.it/Q0ZXR7 #WordPress (twitter.com/_/status/929773927890432000)
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@AndrewHazlett @ChrisAldrich @huffduffer @schmarty Oh, I know @schmarty but I am long overdue for a visit to the Baltimore indieweb meetup (twitter.com/_/status/929770945912467456)
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aaronpk looks fine to me
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aaronpk oh crazy, switching back and forth between channels I see what you mean
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aaronpk it looks like a bug with the slack client, grouping things under the "bot" user that shouldn't be grouped
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[colinwalker] I’m getting the same in this channel.
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aaronpk definitely a slack bug. I just sent them /feedback
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[colinwalker] Thanks for the comments above Tantek - couldn’t see who wrote them because of the bug.
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@sull @ummjackson good question. been a while since I followed this. i’ve used indie webmention in past too. https://indieweb.org/reply (twitter.com/_/status/929782848852234240)
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[kevinmarks] gillmor gang time
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@aaronpk @ummjackson @sull @ummjackson We've been working on exactly that! https://indieweb.org/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/929786260113076224)
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@billbennettnz Indieweb – why you should take more control of your online presence and how to use WordPress to do it. https://billbennett.co.nz/ (twitter.com/_/status/929804230436646913)
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