#indieweb 2017-11-24

2017-11-24 UTC
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-11-24.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@billbennettnz Next Thursday… I’ll be talking about the Indieweb. https://www.meetup.com/Auckland-WordPress-Users/events/243531140/ (twitter.com/_/status/933925483443449857)
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ancarda What time is it for tantek?
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Loqi In tantek's timezone, US/Pacific, it is currently 11:56pm on November 23
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cweiske gives loqi a timezone
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Loqi enjoys the timezone
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ancarda Well that explains why I don’t see posts from tantek in the morning :P I wanted to quickly ask about the code of conduct. The discussion page has https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct-feedback#Political_Orientation — was this resolved? As there’s both politics and ideology listed
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Zegnat You can always leave him a !tell
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ancarda Well it wasn’t just directed to tantek, anyone could answer if they know, but thank you for reminding me, I’ll leave a message
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ancarda !tell tantek I have a question about the code of conduct. The discussion page has https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct-feedback#Political_Orientation — was this resolved? As there’s both politics and ideology listed on the CoC. Are they different from political beliefs?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cweiske someone should add "length of hair" to the things people are respected for
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cweiske and size of toenails or so
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ancarda I guess that’s already covered by personal appearance
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ancarda :/
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Zegnat tries to remember cweiske’s “length of hair”
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[khurt] Hi all, I am in need of some help. I have been using an [Adobe Lightroom plug-in from Automattic](https://apps.wordpress.com/lightroom/) to export images direct from Lightroom to my self hosted WordPress blog. It worked flawlessly up until recently. Short after I installed and setup IndieAuth WordPress, the Lightroom export plugin started throwing errors and failed to export to WordPress. When I disable the IndieAuth WordPress plug-in, the Lightroo
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[khurt] fine.I don’t see anything in the apache error logs. What can I do to trouble shoot this? I would really like to use IndieAuth.
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sgreger good morning indieweb!
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Loqi sgreger: [chrisaldrich] left you a message 1 day, 14 hours ago: Savemy.news: I was actually chatting with Ben Welsh last week and had added his tool at the /archival_copy page and added an archive section to /Indieweb_for_Journalism. Thanks for adding it to /PASTA as well.
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sknebel good morning sgreger!
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sgreger using a bookmarklet in firefox for my bookmarking workflow, it never worked with github urls. recently ever more pages don't work. i vaguely remember it being related to some security model used on the github sites - could anybody point me in the right direction?
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sknebel sgreger: one sec, have to dig that out
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sgreger ironically, i probably bookmarked that explanation when i first researched it, but cannot find the bookmark :D
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sknebel [khurt]: this is total guess work (I'm not a wordpress user), but I imagine using the indieauth plugin removes the wordpress.com based login the lightroom plugin probably needs? I hope one of the wordpress-plugin devs will be around soon and can tell you more :)
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sknebel sgreger: the basic issue is that bookmarklets are run as JS of the page - but the page can have CSP in place that stops the script from running
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sgreger sknebel: yes, that was the acronym i was after. thanks!
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sknebel sgreger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=866522 was maybe what you are looking for?
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sknebel the best workaround currently is probably turning your bookmarklet into a browser extension, those as far as I know can ignore CSP when injecting scripts
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sgreger good point. and that's on the roadmap anyways, aiming to build upon treora's browser extension from iwc berlin
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sgreger ...until then, it's copy-paste for bookmarking.
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sknebel sgreger: there's this I just found: https://sandbox.self.li/bookmarklet-to-extension/
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sgreger sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 29 karma in this channel (76 overall)
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GWG Morning
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Loqi morning!
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sknebel morning!
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sknebel sgreger: or this one maybe https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/bookmarklets-context-menu/, no need to install your own extension then
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sknebel GWG there was a wordpress plugin question earlier I couldn't help with
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GWG About Indieauth? Haven't looked much at the code for that.
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[miklb] morning. Hope my US friends had a good day of giving thanks.
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GWG [miklb]: I'm thankful for the Indieweb
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[miklb] likewise GWG
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[miklb] this community has been a rare bright spot in an otherwise dark year+ for me
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GWG [miklb]: I hope 2018 works out better
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[miklb] me too. I’m afraid I might have to back to cooking to pay the bills ?
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GWG We'll all be pulling for you
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[miklb] today would be a good day to start my IW WordPress roundup posts me thinks.
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GWG Oh?
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GWG What topic is first?
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[miklb] Mostly thinking right now of weekly roundups of what improvements and fixes have hit the WordPress plugins, then go from there.
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GWG If I fiddle with the Audio Post Kind, you could do a Microcast
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[miklb] Doesn’t seem like we get those into the newsletter. All of yours and pfefferle and snarfeds hard work should be better publicized IMO that the WordPress IndieWeb ecosystem is continually improving.
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[miklb] I would attempt a microcast for IW WordPress stuff
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[miklb] I still have indiewp.com and would like to make it a community site for that, but until I get my personal sites sorted, figured could start as blog posts and syndicate to Indie News
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[miklb] Have been thinking about that site a bit, maybe have a theme switcher so people could visualize the existing theme ecosystem, albeit a small one currently, plus tutorials and plugin update announcements.
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sknebel [miklb]: roundups of news from wordpress land sound like they'd be nice to have, yes!
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sknebel e.g. in recent discussions it came up that people that don't like spending their time in chat (which then always are a bit seperated from everything going on here) sometimes at least read the newsletter to keep up to date
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Towards an IndieWeb Way of Life™ Public Profile" by Michael Bishop on 2017-11-24 https://miklb.com/2017/11/towards-an-indieweb-way-of-life-public-profile/
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@miklb Towards an IndieWeb Way of Life™ Public Profile: http://miklb.com/2017/11/towards-an-indieweb-way-of-life-public-profile/ (twitter.com/_/status/934148745377320960)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-11-24.html
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tantek [miklb]++ nice post and analysis of how you decided to create a main public profile. definitely worth submitting to IndieNews!
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Loqi tantek: ancarda left you a message 14 hours, 8 minutes ago: I have a question about the code of conduct. The discussion page has https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct-feedback#Political_Orientation — was this resolved? As there’s both politics and ideology listed on the CoC. Are they different from political beliefs?
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tantek !tell ancarda AFAIK we never came to a specific conclusion regarding https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct-feedback#Political_Orientation - worth iterating on perhaps with everything that's happened in the past year or so. It's more of a meta topic though so perhaps follow-up in #indieweb-meta? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Towards an IndieWeb Way of Life™ Public Profile" https://miklb.com/2017/11/towards-an-indieweb-way-of-life-public-profile/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2017/11/24/10/)
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ancarda Ok, will do tantek!
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Loqi ancarda: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: AFAIK we never came to a specific conclusion regarding https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct-feedback#Political_Orientation - worth iterating on perhaps with everything that's happened in the past year or so. It's more of a meta topic though so perhaps follow-up in #indieweb-meta? Thanks!
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[miklb] I would argue code-of-conduct discussions should be in the forum/channel that has the most eyes and chance for input.
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[miklb] tantek thanks. I will leave the decision whether my personal decision is worthy linking to the broader news feed.
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[miklb] s/worthy/relevant to/
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tantek [miklb] aaronpk took care of it :)
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tantek https://news.indieweb.org/en
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-11-24.html
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tantek darnit I thought we had til 14:55
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@t This past Monday was the fourth anniversary of the first Homebrew Website Club meetup https://indieweb.org/events/2013-11-20-homebrew-website-club Now regularly hosted in 8 cities worldwide (plus a 9th virtual), Homebrew Website Club meetups continue growing steadily, in a true ... http://tantek.com/t4r_2 (twitter.com/_/status/934194560619737093)
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tantek interesting, my note writing methods work pretty well for POSSEing to new 280-char tweets
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-11-24.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPbwxSUUEAA6Ojo.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/934198706194092033)
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