#indieweb 2017-12-06

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@aswath Why do so many want to build a fully scalable #WebRTC project? How many of them can be sustained? I would rather see many #indieweb RTC projects. https://twitter.com/tsahil/status/938092957097512965 (twitter.com/_/status/938196360750419970)
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@HongPong eyoo programmers in Texas? Austin #indieweb #indiewebcamp is happening soon: https://indieweb.org/2017/Austin (twitter.com/_/status/938205051906125824)
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[kevinmarks] This is interesting https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/i-tried-emailing-like-your-boss
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KartikPrabhu do that already
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aaronpk so many good quotes
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Congrats to @danielpunkass on the launch of the new MarsEdit! Support for Micro.blog is awesome. My request? Support for Micropub! I’d love to use MarsEdit" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-12-06 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/congrats-to-danielpunkass-on-the-launch-of-the-new-marsedit
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[jeremycherfas] No names. https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F8AC6CH44/image_uploaded_from_ios.png?pub_secret=7755abc697&name=Image uploaded from iOS.png Anyone else on Slack seeing a weird lack of names and avatars? Started a couple of days ago and I thought it was a glitch.
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[kevinmarks] Interesting perspective on silos https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/magazine/the-return-of-the-techno-moral-panic.html
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/jwherrman/status/938109234230759425
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@jwherrman zuck et al came up defending "the internet" against fearful reactionaries and traditionalists. now they're defending themselves against their own users and critics of their companies. these are *different things,* and it's in nobody's interest but theirs to conflate them (twitter.com/_/status/938109234230759425)
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@kevinmarks @jwherrman This is the distinction that http://indieweb.org makes between the web and silos. Too often I hear "the Internet is toxic" when the critique is of silos. (twitter.com/_/status/938306033830809600)
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[kevinmarks] I just had a weird mental connection between silos and the Silurians on Doctor Who - putting up a paywall is like the Silurians hibernating underground hoping that the world is better when they awake.
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@FJdeKermadec I can’t understand why @Feedbin has not yet refreshed @DanielPunkAss’s @RedSweater blog feed. The feed is valid, the whole #IndieWeb sphere is talking about it and yet Feedbin refuses to update it. The worst part is that it seems it is not an isolated incident… 🤬 (twitter.com/_/status/938313965637169152)
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@kevinmarks rewatching this 2006 video about the power of social media, "and maybe about you." sounds a lot more threatening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LJc8nqouPM&feature=youtu.be #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/938322194404380672)
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@jackysee testing on hash tag \$;indieWeb \$;wordpress \$;POSSEE (twitter.com/_/status/938327871009017858)
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@jackysee 今次得啦卦? #IndieWeb #wordpress #POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/938328946462150656)
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@jackysee Reply to : 今次得啦卦? #IndieWeb #wordpress #POSSE— Jacky (@jackysee) December 6, 2017 Yes! (twitter.com/_/status/938329141828612097)
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Magnus What software is powering this chat?
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Magnus Is it maybe some IRC interface?
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cweiske I guess an IRC server and the IRC client that you are using
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Magnus @cweiske ok, thanks. I'm just using a web browser, at this address: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-12-06#bottom
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cweiske its some custom code, see https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org
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Loqi [indieweb] chat.indieweb.org
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tyler-android https://micro.blog/kodo is now powered by xmpp client muhahahaha
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Loqi rofl
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cweiske ah. js;tldr
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cweiske s/tl//
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cweiske js;dr
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sknebel !tell jeremycherfas AFAIK that's a display bug in Slack on OS X that has been around a few weeks
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@CodingItWrong @backlon @meyerweb #indieweb time! (twitter.com/_/status/938411064072556547)
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jeremycherfas Thanks sknebel; I don't use Slack all that often, so that may be why I only just noticed it.
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Loqi jeremycherfas: sknebel left you a message 1 hour, 35 minutes ago: AFAIK that's a display bug in Slack on OS X that has been around a few weeks
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[cleverdevil] I see the same oddness on iOS Slack from time to time.
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[cleverdevil] But, only here in IndieWeb chat. Not on other Slack workspaces.
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aaronpk yeah it's cause all the IRC users send via the same "bot" account
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aaronpk the bot sets the name/photo differently per message
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aaronpk that's not a common pattern in most slacks :)
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[cleverdevil] Ah, I see.
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jeremych_ Is the change relatively recent?
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aaronpk not sure when the slack bug appeared. the bridge has always worked this way tho
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aaronpk slack is aware of the bug
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jeremych_ Funny; I've never noticed it before a couple of days ago.
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[cleverdevil] I've noticed the issue for at least a month now.
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wjh If you use weechat there's a plugin for slack that uses the api directly
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j12t Strawman: If you indiwebify your website, it becomes social.
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j12t (I'm trying to explain without talking about protocols and acronyms)
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j12t Would you agree / disagree with the above (extremely short and thus not detailed) statement?
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Zegnat Oof, that’s a hard one. E.g. I would say http://vanderven.se/martijn/ is indieweb (as it is my main identity online) but it does not support any social feature in silo terms.
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Loqi Martijn van der Ven
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j12t Zegnat: You don't seem to have any blog posts or such there, so POSSE etc doesn't seem to make sense. What if I said "If you indiewebify your blog, it becomes social"?
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Zegnat Yes, using blog instead of general website is probably more clear
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tantek j12t++ explain without talking about protocols and acronyms
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Loqi j12t has 13 karma in this channel (14 overall)
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j12t tantek: you think that summary is fair?
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tantek j12t it's one aspect
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tantek i hesitate to overly focus on "social" as I think it undersells the empowerment from indieweb
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j12t I hear you. This is just a slice, for a particular audience :-)
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j12t To which I can add later "... and all these other things"
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tantek for a presentation / slide, sure, when you know the context
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tantek but for something like the wiki, I'd expect it to be more general
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j12t yes, totally agree
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tantek j12t, to be clear, I think trying different very concrete benefits ("becomes social") is a good thing to see which people seem to find appealing / react to
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Loqi [superfeedr] "#1060" on 2017-12-06 https://doubleloop.net/2017/12/06/1060/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://www.drupal.org/project/linkback/releases/8.x-1.0-alpha1 (from http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/06/alpha-release-of-linkback-module-for-drupal-8-with-webmention-support-8-x-1-0-alpha1/)
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@ChrisAldrich Webmentions are supported in @drupal thanks to @HongPong & others! Now more websites can communicate directly with each other on the open web. Wouldn't you like to @mention someone from your own website to theirs? It's a rapidly growing reality. #IndieWeb http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/06/alpha-release-of-linkback-module-for-drupal-8-with-webmention-support-8-x-1-0-alpha1/ (twitter.com/_/status/938509655000485888)
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@manton2 IndieWebCamp Austin is this weekend! We’ll have IndieWeb co-founders @t and @aaronpk in town for the event. Join us for a day of IndieWeb topics, plus a hack day to work on your own web site or new projects. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/indiewebcamp-austin-2017-tickets-39918084064 (twitter.com/_/status/938520500736847872)
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tantek and voice of this week in the indieweb @schmarty!
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tantek as well as WordPress Outreach extraordinaire @dshanske!
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[manton] I mostly did this post for other people to retweet and quote, but probably should've included some more mentions! Thanks.
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aaronpk you can always reply to yourself so ppl will see the other tweets in the thread!
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sknebel !rt http://twtr.io/1Z7hXUPm8rC
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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aaronpk !rt https://twitter.com/manton2/status/938520500736847872
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Loqi Thanks aaronpk and sknebel! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/938525833827729409
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KartikPrabhu ha! that is cool
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KartikPrabhu along with shortlink resolution!
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KartikPrabhu Loqi++
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@sl007 @manton2 @indiewebcamp @t @aaronpk http://keepaustinweird.com (twitter.com/_/status/938528158609018880)
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@RudigerMeyer 6/ Aaron Parecki – Day 100: A Website for my 100 Days of Music #100DaysOfIndieWeb http://aaronparecki.com/2017/03/30/10/day-100-website-for-100-days-of-music (rdgr.me u/coe8jr) (twitter.com/_/status/938534230426087429)
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[kiai] hi.
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[kiai] If anyone has any time or needs instructions how to replicate a WordPress site onto a new server, I wrote an article and would love feedback. http://www.kiaikim.com/2017/how-to-move-a-wordpress-site-from-one-webhost-to
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Loqi [Kiai Kim] How to Move a WordPress Site from one Webhost to Another, like Dreamhost
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tantek kiai++ nice!
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tantek what is migration
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Loqi migration in the context of the indieweb refers to the process of moving your indieweb site from any one or more of one CMS / web host / DNS provider / URL design / domain name to another https://indieweb.org/migration
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tantek migration << http://www.kiaikim.com/2017/how-to-move-a-wordpress-site-from-one-webhost-to
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Loqi ok, I added "http://www.kiaikim.com/2017/how-to-move-a-wordpress-site-from-one-webhost-to" to the "See Also" section of /migration
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Loqi [Kiai Kim] How to Move a WordPress Site from one Webhost to Another, like Dreamhost
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