#indieweb 2017-12-05

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@melaozhu We mentions and POSSE for IndieWeb. https://twitter.com/real_css_tricks/status/937773161898237952 (twitter.com/_/status/937840045129547782)
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@austinrb 2nd speaker tonight is @tomwiththeweath talking about #IndieWeb #Jekyll and friends https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQP0_2-U8AAtv7S.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/937862537357426688)
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[miklb] oh, yay the jekyll-indieweb demo.
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[miklb] tbbrown++
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Loqi tbbrown has 4 karma
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Loqi [superfeedr] "🎧 This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • November 18th – 24th, 2017 | Marty McGuire" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-28 http://boffosocko.com/2017/11/28/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-%e2%80%a2-november-18th-24th-2017-marty-mcguire/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "🎧 This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • November 26th – December 2nd, 2017" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-12-04 http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/04/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-%e2%80%a2-november-26th-december-2nd-2017/
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@ChrisAldrich 🎧 This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • November 26th - December 2nd, 2017 http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/04/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition-%e2%80%a2-november-26th-december-2nd-2017/ (twitter.com/_/status/937898140035928064)
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@sl007 @aaronpk @indiewebcamp @EFF Awesome - Keep Austin Weird ;) (twitter.com/_/status/937945424647917568)
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cweiske .
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Loqi cweiske: tantek left you a message 15 hours, 40 minutes ago: agreed about your point about giving a screenshot about a totally different tool. my critique was more about use of "easily", like "simply", or "just", it's not a helpful encouragment, if anything makes the person feel ashamed for "not getting it".
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@calum_ryan 📢 RSVPs open to next week's Homebrew Website Club London ✏️ Register at https://hwclondon.co.uk/meetups/20171213 (twitter.com/_/status/937983625194344448)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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wjh[m]1 morning!
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Loqi *yawn*
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Zegnat End of the school day reached, time for more IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Hello zegnat
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Zegnat Hellow jeremycherfas
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Zegnat Any projects today?
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sknebel good morning!
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jeremycherfas Just finishing off some client work, then lunch.
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Zegnat Don't forget to make an /eat post 😉
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Zegnat wonders if Known has those
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jeremycherfas I don't think so. I could IG it and PESO, but I don't often do that.
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Zegnat Oh well, I should not be thinking of other CMS and finally finish some of my own stuff first.
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aaronpk good morning
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cweiske hiho
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sknebel morning!
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wjh[m]1 just out of curiousity, are there any micropub servers that are easy to use with static site generators? Otherwise I'm kinda itching to write my own
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aaronpk there are! https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Servers
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cweiske I don't know of any that were build for static site generators
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aaronpk there's one for Jekyll listed there
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cweiske since the server would have to generate the exact file format for that generator
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aaronpk I think there's another but I can't remember off-hand
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cweiske ah right
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cweiske via github
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sknebel dgold made nanopub , and voxpelli has https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-micropub-to-github
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Loqi [voxpelli] webpage-micropub-to-github: Self-hosteable Micropub endpoint that publishes to Jekyll by committing to GitHub
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aaronpk that's the one
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wjh[m]1 Ahhh, thanks :)
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wjh[m]1 then again, building one could be fun xD
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aaronpk definitely :)
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aaronpk just added some links to https://indieweb.org/static_site#Micropub but feel free to expand that section
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wjh I was actually thinking of making something like what MicroPub does, then accidentally stumbled on all the IndieWeb stuff :D
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wjh neat, thanks
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[keithjgrant] Voxpelli’s with with Hugo sites, too. That's what I use
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[keithjgrant] s/with/works
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wjh [keithjgrant]: oh good, using Hugo atm :D
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@tomwiththeweath Slides for Jekyll-Indieweb and Friends @austinrb http://herestomwiththeweather.com/2017/12/05/slides-for-jekyll-indieweb-and-friends/ (twitter.com/_/status/938076953768230912)
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curve25519 Is there an indieweb chat protocol?
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aaronpk what is chat?
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Loqi chat is informal messaging offered by numerous services, a few of which interoperate or bridge with each other, and also a set of brainstorms for what an amazing indieweb friendly chat web app/site could do https://indieweb.org/chat
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aaronpk one cour argue that our IRC logs are a good start to that: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-12-05/1512493348420400
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Loqi [curve25519] Is there an indieweb chat protocol?
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Zegnat Is there a need for yet another chat protocol though?
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tantek unlikely. the ircv4 effort looks promising
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aaronpk v3? http://ircv3.net/
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tantek right that, getting ahead of myself :)
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tantek what is a story
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Loqi A story is a singular (one per profile) time stream collection post, that consists of ephemeral photo and video posts that are shown in sequence one at a time and disappear from the collection 24 hours after being added https://indieweb.org/story
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tantek well now there's this: https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/05/instagram-stories-highlights/
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aaronpk wait what
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aaronpk they turned it back into instagram?
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tantek stories archive
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aaronpk i'm very curious what about this UI is different from a regular instagram feed
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tantek "Archive will be activated automatically for everyone soon, and you’ll get a notification when it opens to you with the option to turn it off. Stories clips are saved in the same quality you uploaded them at. You can find the Archive on your Profile and switch between the Stories Archive and Posts Archive.
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tantek Archived posts appear in reverse chronological order with date stamps for clarity. You can’t download your entire Archive at once, but instead will have to download individual clips. Archived posts can be reshared to Highlights, Direct Messages, the feed, or downloaded and then pushed to your current Story."
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Zegnat Sounds like nothing changes about presentation but you get access to your own previous content?
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Zegnat In other words: IG was never removing the “ephemeral” content, and is now presenting it to you again through a new “feature”? ;)
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tantek not sure if it was all archived, or only new stories will be archived
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4rkECQXy.jpg
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tantek darn it
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aaronpk Loqi++
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Loqi loqi has 62 karma in this channel (445 overall)
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[miklb] I was so hoping somehow the new Marsedit would have micropub built in.
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Zegnat We discussed that on the last virtual homebrew club actually.
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aaronpk heh, I think he had to cut out a lot of features to ship it
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[miklb] If I knew it was even on the roadmap, I’d invest the time into starting using it. I should probably ask him
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aaronpk hearing him talk about the upcoming release on his podcast sheds some light into this :)
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aaronpk I think it might be a reasonable request for version 4.1 now! tho I wouldn't have tried to ask him to get it into 4.0
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Zegnat I think we had some podcast links in the vhwc notes.
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[miklb] guess I need to start listening to podcasts
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/User:Vanderven.se_martijn/hwc-2017-333
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[miklb] I have a question about likes and bookmarks. Should my note have the same title as the item I’m liking/bookmarking?
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aaronpk a note doesn't have a title
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[miklb] that’s what I thought, but currently the behavior of GWG’s post kinds plugin pulls in the title of the thing I’m liking/bookmarking as the title of **my** note.
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veganstraightedg Hey yall. Long time.
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aaronpk ah I guess there's always the <title> tag
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veganstraightedg I wanted to share with you folks part of what I've been working on while being away from IWC land this year.
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veganstraightedg I'm building a startup called Sandstorm to do distributed computing on lots of idle devices. Right now, it's just on EC2 servers. The vision is running jobs in the background on websites as a replacement for display ads.
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veganstraightedg Here's the deal about what we're building: https://sandstorm.co
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veganstraightedg And here's a write up about our first user (Breaker podcast app by Leah Culver and Erik Berlin) : https://medium.com/breakeraudio/get-new-podcast-episodes-faster-with-breaker-697d52d9d78c
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dgold1 can I just ask -- I implemented h-entry markup on my site a while back, at the time I was just trying to get the markup working, I didn't spend a lot of time on the details
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dgold1 Each of my h-entry contains some h-card markup, and there's a full-featured h-card embedded in my footer
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dgold1 but the two are != the same
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dgold1 is that right? is there a better way to do this?
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aaronpk dgold1: let's move the markup discussion to -> #indieweb-dev
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dgold1 <- #dev
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vivus what are CardDAV servers?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "CardDAV servers" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sknebel what is CardDAV?
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Loqi CardDAV is a protocol for syncing VCARDs https://indieweb.org/CardDAV
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sknebel vivus: I know of radicale
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vivus does a cardDav client need to be an "app" to sync contacts on Android/iOS?
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sknebel pretty sure yes
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vivus so davdroid can sync on Android.
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veganstraightedg oh yeah. veganstraightedg is shaners.
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shaners does /nick work here?
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aaronpk waves to shaners
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shaners /waves
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[miklb] https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/05/zeta-global-acquires-commenting-service-disqus/
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shaners @aaronpk I'm enjoying your indieweb advent calendar month!
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vivus I was wondering when DisQus would be bought
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vivus w.r.t sandstorm.co where is the blockchain bit?
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shaners @vivus Nothing about blockchain atm.
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vivus shaners: it may be a good idea to let the market determine the pricing. Think of it like a marketplace where buyers/sellers negotiate what rate they are willing to accept, add your 10% commission for being the middleman and that'll work
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vivus I disagree with running background JS scripts though, that is worse than autoplay video-ads
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shaners @aaronpk do you have more advent posts planned?
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aaronpk nope haha! but other people should feel free to contribute too! https://indieweb.org/2017-12-indieweb-challenge
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Loqi rofl
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vivus haha!
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vivus why did Loqi laugh by itself? D:
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schmarty aaronpk: would the indieauth spec updates count towards the challenge?
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sknebel hm, we need an entry for today then if aaronpk isn't providing it :P
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aaronpk I suppose the indieauth spec could count for today! tho I don't want to completely dominate the calendar :)
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tantek it counts!
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tantek and the race is still on: everyone else vs. aaronpk!
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tantek :)
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sknebel for yesterday we might add sgregers twitter-link-thing as well
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sknebel (was that yesterday?)
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aaronpk will write a little blog post announcement then
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tantek we already had the Drupal 8 LB module with Webmention support
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tantek for yesterday
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vivus do questions about cardDAV servers go in #indieweb-meta ?
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aaronpk sounds like -dev
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vivus well if nobody has an issue about it, is anybody familiar with OSS clients to sync address books on iOS/Android?
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tantek agreed, all jargon -> dev
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tantek what is OSS
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "OSS" yet. Would you like to create it?
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vivus open source software
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gRegorLove Howdy, #indieweb
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[jelyman] /waves
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KartikPrabhu [jelyman]: hello
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KartikPrabhu and welcome
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@mrkrndvs Reply to doesn't link back by Khürt Williams from Chris Aldrich #IndieWeb http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/03/reply-to-doesnt-link-back-by-khurt-williams/ (twitter.com/_/status/938155658968477702)
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@mrkrndvs Indie Map - Keynote - #IndieWeb Summit 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkc5afFohmI (twitter.com/_/status/938173485540691969)
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gRegorLove 10 days until AIM is discontinued. Won't be able to log in and data will be deleted.
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-12-15 2:38pm PST (#6227)
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gRegorLove Heh
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gRegorLove That can be removed I think. Just meant to warn if anyone wanted to try to retrieve their contacts
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Loqi Okay, I cancelled it!
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Zegnat !cancel 6227
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Zegnat There you go gRegorLove, removed
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gRegorLove Ah, cool. Thanks.
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aaronpk Im gonna remove the !cancel feature if y'all keep doing that lol
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Zegnat Sometimes countdowns do get accidentally created.
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aaronpk yeahb but they're mostly harmless ;-)
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[horsemansyospos In the year 2525, if man is still alive…
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[horsemansyospos Aww no countdown.
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