#indieweb 2017-12-28

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tantek ok switching to The Grove - that should be open
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tantek [rvid][roshanvid]: ^^^ heads-up. Atlas is closed today apparently (according to their website)
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tantek The Grove is just a block away at Mission & 3rd
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tantek [rvid][roshanvid] hopefully that still works for you!
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tantek wow: "We prefer social to media. / Proudly post, tweet, snap, and gram-free." (from http://thegrovesf.com/ )
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Event" on 2017-12-28 http://tantek.com/2017/361/e1/homebrew-website-club
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@t Event: Homebrew Website Club SF At: 2017-12-27 17:00 The Grove Yerba Buena, 690 Mission st., San Francisco, CA RSVP: http://tantek.com/e/4s71 (twitter.com/_/status/946173459423551489)
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tantek !tell rvid,roshanvid UPDATE: HWC SF 2017-12-27 at The Grove (because Atlas is closed today) http://tantek.com/2017/361/e1/homebrew-website-club
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club SF
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@t Last minute SF: #IndieWeb meetup TONIGHT 17:00-19:00 The Grove Yerba Buena (690 Mission st. & 3rd) Come by for a drink & a chat! Will be near the door. RSVP if you like: * http://tantek.com/2017/361/e1/homebrew-website-club * https://www.facebook.com/events/159715264798375 #openweb #dweb #decentralizedweb (ttk.me t4s71) (twitter.com/_/status/946179101492174848)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Last minute SF: #IndieWeb meetup TONIGHT 17:00-19:00 The Grove Yerba Buena (690 Mission st. & 3rd) Come by for a drink & a chat! Will be near the door. RSVP if you like: * http://tantek.com/2017/361/e1/homebrew-website-club * https://www.facebook.com/events/159715264798375 #openweb #dweb #decentralizedweb" on 2017-12-28 http://tantek.com/2017/361/t1/last-indieweb-sf-meetup-this-year
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[roshanvid] tantek :thumbsup:
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Loqi [roshanvid]: tantek left you a message 19 minutes ago: UPDATE: HWC SF 2017-12-27 at The Grove (because Atlas is closed today) http://tantek.com/2017/361/e1/homebrew-website-club
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chrisaldrich Quiet writing hour has commenced for /vHWC Americas: https://hangouts.google.com/call/8XGkwtEjxg2oH07pyOD_AAEE
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Loqi chrisaldrich: Zegnat left you a message 3 days, 11 hours ago: have you thought about just publishing a backup of all articles from AltPlatform? (Also by others than you?) I think everything had a CC licence?
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chrisaldrich They were very liberally CC licensed, so perhaps I might do that.
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chrisaldrich Most do live still on the internet archive too...
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GWG It is very quiet
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[miklb] here in spirit again. Going to try and take my wp install multisite
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chrisaldrich miklb: Is there a straightforward path for that or a fresh install and then data migration?
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chrisaldrich I've been tempted to set up an indieweb multisite and manage it for some friends and family, but have not done much multisite work in the past.
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[miklb] there’s a flag you set in your wp-config and then a page under tools to run to start it up. Biggest thing to have to worry about is htaccess rules or nginx config
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[miklb] I ran several 200-300 site multisites for a 1.5 years, but it’s been a while since I’ve used it.
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[tantek] roshanvid inside the grove near the entrance
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[roshanvid] i see you!
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chrisaldrich I thought we'd have more, but really expected things to be relatively quiet this week for the holidays.
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GWG chrisaldrich: I'll turn on my video or audio as needed.
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chrisaldrich :thumbsup:
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GWG Or I could key up the music again
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chrisaldrich nearly scared me to death as I had my volume all the way up....
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GWG chrisaldrich: I'm not sure why I'm listening to Irish music right now
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[tantek] GWG, perhaps you're inspired to plan IWC Dublin?
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GWG [tantek]: I can easily get there, but I think I'd wait for local interest
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[tantek] Just need one local organizer
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GWG [tantek]: Dgold is down in Cork.
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[tantek] Nice!
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@gRegorLove Some thoughts on my #newwwyear resolution: https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/some-thoughts-on-my-newwwyear/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/946189449758629888)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Thinking of Homepage Mentions" by David Shanske on 2017-12-28 https://david.shanske.com/2017/12/27/thinking-homepage-mentions/
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chrisaldrich We must be getting to the tail end of quiet writing hour if everyone is publishing!! :)
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gRegorLove Here's a Twitter list of 272 people doing the #newwwyear challenge: https://twitter.com/waterproofheart/lists/newwwyear
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GWG chrisaldrich: I could go for another one.
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chrisaldrich Two posts in a day that aren't Swarm or Instagram?! Go for the record GWG! ;)
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GWG chrisaldrich: I am not good at self-promotion
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GWG We almost ready to start?
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chrisaldrich Sure, let's get going...
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gRegorLove I'm ready
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chrisaldrich GWG: Scrolling back to see what he's got new on his site in the last two weeks. (Takes minutes to see the hundreds of changes he's made to hundreds of sites...)
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gRegorLove vHWC Americas demos starting: https://hangouts.google.com/call/8XGkwtEjxg2oH07pyOD_AAEE
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chrisaldrich GWG: Lots of updates to icons, clean up in micropub plugin; got post status into micropub for WP as well
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chrisaldrich GWG: Post Kinds supports audio posts; more icons; icons in syndication; some work on invites; IndieAuth groundwork;
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chrisaldrich GWG: Custom query support in micropub; nested properties in micropub generation; unit tests; tested micropub plugins;
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chrisaldrich What is Indigenous?
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Loqi Indigenous is a native app for iOS and macOS for posting your website using Micropub https://indieweb.org/Indigenous
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GWG Wish there was an Android version
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aaronpk Someone will have to make it
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GWG Not volunteering
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chrisaldrich What is RSVPaw?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "RSVPaw" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "RSVPaw is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu how about a webapp instead
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aaronpk The point is the OS level integration
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aaronpk See the screenshots in my latest blog post
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tantek wat
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tantek RSVPaw? was that a typo?
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aaronpk Not a typo 😽
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gRegorLove tantek: Nope, my punnery at work :)
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tantek is that how a cat or dog RSVPs?
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gRegorLove Discussing indiewebcat rsvping to tonight's vHWC
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aaronpk I hope that screenshot came out well
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GWG https://indieweb.org/2014/Online
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tantek what is MarsEdit
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Loqi MarsEdit is a Mac desktop app for blogging, specifically supporting posting to your WordPress blog https://indieweb.org/MarsEdit
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tantek apparently there's a v4 recently out?
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[miklb] yes
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tantek aaronpk: do you know about this client? has there been any attempt to request Micropub support?
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[miklb] micropub has been mentioned to the developer, including by manton. Not on immediate road map as I understand it, but on radar
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aaronpk I hunk once we get the query for list of posts sorted out in Micropub he'll consider it
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aaronpk s/hunk/think
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tantek ah, that's worth noting in that issue
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tantek [MarsEdit blocker]
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tantek or something
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Last minute SF: #IndieWeb meetup TONIGHT 17:00-19:00 The Grove Yerba Buena (690 Mission st. & 3rd) Come by for a drink & a chat! Will be near the door. RSVP if you like: * http://tantek.com/2017/361/e1/homebrew-website-club * https://www.facebook.com/events/159715264798375 #openweb #dweb #decentralizedweb" on 2017-12-28 http://tantek.com/2017/361/t1/last-minute-sf-indieweb-meetup
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tantek oh hey superfeedr were you late or just noticed a change? like in the slug?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@colinjohnston next regularly scheduled #IndieWeb Homebrew Website Club meetup is on Wednesday 2018-01-10 in a bunch of cities! https://indieweb.org/events/2018-01-10-homebrew-website-club Join the chat for more info: https://indieweb.org/discuss" on 2017-12-28 http://tantek.com/2017/361/t2/next-indieweb-meetup-2018
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@t @colinjohnston next regularly scheduled #IndieWeb Homebrew Website Club meetup is on Wednesday 2018-01-10 in a bunch of cities! https://indieweb.org/events/2018-01-10-homebrew-website-club Join the chat for more info: https://indieweb.org/discuss (ttk.me t4s72) (twitter.com/_/status/946213151548243973)
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wt hello everyone, i am new here. do you guys hold webinars on building personal websites or how to promote ourselves?
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chrisaldrich Evening wt
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wt good evening chris
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chrisaldrich We definitely do versions of the first (though I'm not sure if anyone has done it in webinar format); we don't focus so much on the latter.
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wt oh nice. is there a webinar going on right now? i had found you guys on meetup.com which led me here.
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chrisaldrich We had Homebrew Website Club meetup earlier this evening, but it ended at 6:30pm Pacific
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[chrisaldrich] When is the next homebrew website club?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/next_homebrew_website_club
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[chrisaldrich] wt, do you already have your own website?
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wt i do not have my own website yet. i was hoping to create one for my portfolio and wanted to get some ideas on design.
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chrisaldrich Is there a particular CMS or project you were planning on building it on?
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wt i was thinking of building out of a text editor using javascript then host it on a domain
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chrisaldrich What is a portfolio?
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Loqi A portfolio on the Indieweb is a professional web page (or collection thereof) targeted at paying customers/clients that often shows examples of work and projects https://indieweb.org/portfolio
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chrisaldrich There are a few examples on that page that may help you out a bit ^^
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chrisaldrich wt, what kind of work are you featuring in your portfolio?
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wt yes what loqi mentioned. i am trying to build a site to host my projects in hopes companies would be impressed and possibly hire me. lol
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wt thanks for the link, i will check it out
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wt i feel like they are sample projects. one of my projects is an events planner built with java
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chrisaldrich Loqi is the resident chatbot who answers questions based on the contents of the wiki.
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wt lol cool
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wt so for the events planner project, i have built an application where there is an admin and users
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wt users are able to login and register for an account then create an event for others to join
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chrisaldrich The side benefit of a well done portfolio page is that it itself is an example of your own work!
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chrisaldrich Are you doing just screenshots and text, or can you also link out to an example of the work that shows the functionality as well?
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chrisaldrich thinks I should spend some time and create a portfolio myself...
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GWG I used to have a portfolio
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wt sure. give me a min. it isnt deployed lol
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wt do you guys think it is necessary to have a portfolio? or would github suffice?
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wt i am actually new to development. i recently did a career change
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GWG I'm only a hobbyist developer
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tantek necessary to have your own domain
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GWG But, I will concur with tantek that having your own site is better
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tantek where you host it, e.g. github, is up to you and your preference. github is fine for static web hosting
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tantek wrapping up here at HWC SF!
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tantek photo taken and posted
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tantek and with that HWC is a wrap for the year! see you in 2018!
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tantek Next meetups: Homebrew Website Club https://indieweb.org/events/2018-01-10-homebrew-website-club. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log http://chat.indieweb.org/today
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chrisaldrich What is a hobbyist developer?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "hobbyist developer" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hobbyist developer is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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chrisaldrich Go ahead GWG ^^. :)
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GWG A hobbyist developer is an individual who develops software as a hobby and not a profession.
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Loqi ok
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wt ok i have taken screen shots
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wt how should i send it over? lol
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wt it took awhile screenshotting and documenting.
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wt i saved the screenshots onto word doc
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wt wait nm
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wt i have read your message wrong chris
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wt i think i will demo it with youtube once it is ready or deploy it
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[xavierroy] is there a difference between a movie 'watch' post type and a "television" watch type? And then how do you mark up something like the Dr Who Christmas special 🙂 ?
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@EddieHinkle My #newwwyear goal is to add the current weather based on my current location to all of my posts and to have better post context (likes, replies, bookmarks, etc) based on using my local copy of XRay to parse for information. #IndieWeb (https://eddiehinkle.com/2017/12/28/2/note/) (twitter.com/_/status/946268900311928834)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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Zegnat Finishing up my vHWC notes from yesterday :)
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tanlaan Zegnat: How'd that go? I missed it due to cleaning and packing.
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tanlaan Hopefully there will be one in Portland next month so I can check one out in person
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Zegnat I organise the virtual one on European evenings. Went well. aaronpk and tantek attended. Worked on some new year’s commitments and discussed some silo concepts and how they might work on the (decentralised) IndieWeb
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Zegnat I believe aaronpk said Portland would start again in the new year, yes :) Hope you can attend! Else there are always some virtual ones, both on EU and US times.
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[kevinmarks] Nice indieweb response https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/946118898759254016
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@seananmcguire We operate under a complicated layer of non-disclosure agreements, promises, and publication schedules. Frequently, your question will have one of three answers: * It's on my website * I don't know * I can't tell you (twitter.com/_/status/946118898759254016)
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tanlaan Definitely going to try my best to attend either physical or virtual next month :)
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petermolnar does anyone have a 'donation' post type, as in a public list of projects that has been donated to?
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Zegnat Hmm. I don’t.
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Zegnat rhiaro might have.
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Zegnat birthdays << http://cweiske.de/birthday3.htm
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Loqi ok, I added "http://cweiske.de/birthday3.htm" to the "See Also" section of /birthdays
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Medium is only an edge server of your POSSE CDN, your own blog is the origin" by Nicolas Hoizey on 2017-12-28 https://medium.com/@nhoizey/medium-is-only-a-cdn-be6a54f848f4?source=rss-------1
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[chrisaldrich] !tell petermolnar I just put together a supporting page last week. Not sure if I put it on the wiki yet https://boffosocko.com/2017/12/22/a-supporting-page/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Author Chris Aldrich] It’s the holiday season and I’ve already gotten dozens of letters, emails, and calls for support for a variety of charities. Also in the wake of Patreon’s recent attempt to change their payments structure, I’ve recently seen some people attem...
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GWG Howdy
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sgreger good morning indieweb
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sgreger i have an interesting backfeed experience right now: over the holidays, i received an hourly "like" on my latest tweet, leading to an insane increase of "likes" in my backfeed :D
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sgreger ...they all come from some bot accounts on twitter, and it doesn't seem to stop
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dgold that sounds like a terrible experience sgreger
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tantek good morning #indieweb
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dgold hello tantek
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sgreger dgold: well, i got it under control by disabling the automatic "no spam" handling for the bridgy backfeed in my wordpress for that account - but is an interesting edge case for backfeed
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sgreger s/account/post/
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tantek sgreger: bot likes / nonsense replies are one of things stopping me from implementing showing twitter backfeed responses on my notes :/
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Zegnat Needs vouch. I recently received a webmention with vouch from gRegorLove.
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vivus Is the philosophy behind indieweb to focus on distributed content no matter the scenario?
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Loqi The IndieWeb Community is largely based on principles (AKA tenets) such as own your data, scratch your own itches, build tools for yourself, selfdogfood, document your stuff, open source your stuff, UX design is more important than protocols, visible data for humans first and machines second, platform agnostic platforms, plurality over monoculture, longevity, and remember to have fun! https://indieweb.org/principles
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aaronpk what are principles?
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vivus interesting. I see no mention of distributed/p2p as part of the principles
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tantek vivus, that's right, distributed/p2p is a side-effect, it's plumbing, a way of implementing the /principles
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[kevinmarks] it's also implicit in the 'web' part
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[kevinmarks] though that has eroded over time
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tantek eroded? how?
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tantek what is p2p
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "p2p" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "p2p is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek what is peer to peer
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "peer to peer" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "peer to peer is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek interesting
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vivus I've been dwelling deeply on building an alternative to linkedin, that is semi-distributed, but synced to a central server
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tantek vivus, the indieweb approach would be to split that up into seperate pieces (distribute the problem itself as it were), like do you have your own website with a resume (h-resume), and perhaps an aggregator site that could collect them / show search results of tags etc.
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[kevinmarks] I remember explaining OAuth to timbl and him saying 'why wouldn't you just run it on your machine?' and realising what had changed
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tantek kevinmarks the erosion I have seen (maybe dilution?) is that hashtags like # dweb and the term "decentralized web" is used for things that are not web at all
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vivus well the idea is that the content would exist on your mobile phone via vCards and then perhaps synced up to a server with those cards acting as hcards
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tantek sounds like yet another piece, an offline capable progressive web app that acts as a "resume reader" of sorts that caches people who you are "following"
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tantek ther's a bunch of folks showing up recently who want to work on updating their personal portfolios using their own site, and that sounds like it could be the first building block toward a "distributed linkedin"
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tantek vivus, do you have your own website with resume to at least get this started with a real world example?
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vivus tantek: well my focus is not on h-resume, but on the 'networking' part of professional networking. I see phonebooks as a better alternative to a professional profile (like linkedin)
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vivus so vcards and hcards (for now)
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sgreger tantek: this is the first time i even thought about spam likes as an issue. triggered some thoughts though: i could verify likes by checking whether a twitter user is less than, say, 3 degrees away on my twitter social graph.
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tantek sgreger "3 degrees away" is an expensive computation, and/or challenging to keep up to date as a cache
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tantek but yeah, even 1-2 degrees would be a good start at that
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sgreger tantek: absolutely. and i'm not sure is it worth the effort.
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tantek vivus, great do you have an h-card on your personal site to start with?
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sgreger quite frankly, the backfeed display is not really that important to me (and i've already heavily anonymized it, for privacy reasons)
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tantek sgreger: I do get plenty of *good* replies on Twitter, so I want to try to keep those
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vivus tantek: the part I am struggling with is the issue of 'failure' concerning the project. For some reason, there is a startup-like mentality that a project is "dead on arrival" if it's not getting 50K signups a week
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tantek yep that's a documented anti-pattern (doa if not 50k signups per week)
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tantek hence why we encourage starting small, with your own site first, and growing organically from there
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tantek if it's your own site and it works for you, then by definition it is not a failure
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sgreger tantek: "want to try to keep those" - so you have not enabled them completely? or just not showing?
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sgreger s/enabled/disabled/
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vivus tantek: is there content/information written about this anti-pattern? (you mention documented)
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tantek sgreger: they're cached at webmention.io but that's more of an #indieweb-dev conversation
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tantek what are anti-patterns
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Loqi The monoculture antipattern is best described as, if only everyone would install and run this one open source project then we will be good https://indieweb.org/anti-patterns
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tantek hmm I should fix that dfn
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sgreger tantek: i was mostly curious about the conceptual approach; will ping you if technical questions arise later :)
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vivus don't we live in a mono-culture of sorts for large/paid OSS projects?
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tantek by the very use of "projects" as a plural, that seems to contradict the singularness of *mono*culture
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tantek what are antipatterns
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Loqi antipatterns are anithetical to a diverse and growing indieweb, often times the opposite, or at best a distraction from indieweb principles and building-blocks, yet persistently repeated despite their tendency to waste time and cause failures https://indieweb.org/antipatterns
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tantek better
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tantek vivus, here is the specific documentation for the "failure if its not getting 50k signups a week" AKA "mass adoption" antipattern: https://indieweb.org/antipatterns#mass_adoption
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vivus tantek: I was referring to projects in specific parts of tech. eg. Docker for containers . Kubernetes for container orchestration . etc.
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tantek what is monoculture
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Loqi Monoculture refers to the antipattern of one piece of software dominating (or trying to dominate) its field, often by being limited to communicating with other instances of the same codebase https://indieweb.org/monoculture
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tantek vivus, yes, you may be identifying potential monocultures there for sure
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tantek the example that has come up before is Webkit for the "mobile web"
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vivus interesting how my thoughts around this aren't in isolation
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tantek vivus, definitely. feel free to add the examples you provided to https://indieweb.org/monoculture#Examples
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tantek what is ☕️
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "☕️" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "☕️ is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek whoa with all those coffee posts from aaronpk?
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tantek what is coffee
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Loqi coffee is an optional fuel to power IndieWebCamp events https://indieweb.org/coffee
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tantek ☕️ is /coffee
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Loqi ok
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dgold what is covfefe
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Loqi covfefe was a mistype by POTUS45 posted on the popular content hosting silo twitter https://indieweb.org/covfefe
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dgold :)
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tantek oh no
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tantek what is a drink
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Loqi Food is a post type that represents eating or drinking particular food or drink https://indieweb.org/drink
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aaronpk wait what coffee posts
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aaronpk oh i misread that :)
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tantek nice balloons effect on your homepage aaronpk
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Zegnat rhiaro has coffee listed as one of her most used tags.
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tantek what is an americano
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "americano" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "americano is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat 870 cups of coffee tracked
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rhiaro drinks some coffee yes
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tantek Americano is a type of [[coffee]] drink, and often posted as a [[drank]] post by {{aaronpk}} https://aaronparecki.com/drank.
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Loqi ok
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tantek coffee << Americano
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Americano]]" to the "See Also" section of /coffee
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jjuran Is that how you measure a year? In cups of coffee?
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tantek coffee << https://aaronparecki.com/2017/12/18/19/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://aaronparecki.com/2017/12/18/19/" to the "See Also" section of /coffee
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Coffee
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vivus jjuran: that's how some companies recruit developers
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tantek what is a heatmap
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "heatmap" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "heatmap is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek wat
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gRegorLove Heh, guess we only set up /calendar_heatmap
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tantek heatmap is /calendar_heatmap
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Loqi ok
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dgold s there a way to file an objection to an indieweb wiki page?
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dgold Americano != Coffee
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sknebel Start an Issues or discussion section :P
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bear :)
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dgold nah, just edited it
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tantek ok fine I'll cite wikipedia :P
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jjuran what is edit war?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "edit war" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "edit war is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek dgold feel free to add a "Criticisms" section to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caff%C3%A8_Americano
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Loqi Caffè Americano
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dgold wikipedia, yes, that bastion of non-Americo-centric culture
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tantek dgold, at least at something to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caff%C3%A8_Americano
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tantek add* something
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dgold I added 'dilute' to the opening paragraph, that being the essential aspect of the 'Americano'
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tantek fair
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sknebel Americano << not to be confused with the [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americano_(cocktail) cocktail of the same name]
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Loqi ok, I added "not to be confused with the [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americano_(cocktail) cocktail of the same name]" to the "See Also" section of /Americano
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Zegnat Hahaha, that talk page
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tantek so good
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Loqi hehe
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Zegnat “do you add water to the espresso, or espresso to the water?”
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tantek but what about the crema?
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dgold Zegnat: hence just saying 'diluted'
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Zegnat We need to get in an expert. I think sebsel has some connections in the coffee world! :P
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dgold the crema? in an americano?
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tantek dgold: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caff%C3%A8_Americano#Photo_contradicts_text
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dgold there's maybe a light scum of fat left on top after dilution
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tantek (aside: this is all aaronpk's fault for posting Americano posts ;) )
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sknebel Isn't "diluted" necessary part of the definition of an "X drink"?
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dgold that's not a crema - that's the aforementioned light scum of fat
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tantek (dying 😂)
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dgold I'll add that to the page
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Zegnat Now I want to parse all 870 posts by rhiaro tagged coffee to see if any of them are Americanos.
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dgold sknebel: diluted coffee != coffee
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tantek I kinda want to see a pie chart of aaronpk's /drank posts
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aaronpk oh no
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tantek what % are Americano vs beer vs etc
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rhiaro I tend to be specific in the 'content' value Zegnat, there's a variety
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tantek dgold, all coffee is diluted unless you're just chewing the bean
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aaronpk an americano is diluted espresso, but it's still coffee
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rhiaro My coffee tagged posts also includes beans
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sknebel And the dfn was "coffee drink", not coffee
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dgold no it isn't
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dgold its a "coffee drink"
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dgold the same way that you can buy both Orange Juice and Orange Juice Drink
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vivus which is stronger, cafe latte or americano?
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dgold sknebel: I fixed that on the wikipedia page :)
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dgold vivus: a latte is _also_ a coffee drink
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dgold cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latte
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Loqi Caffè latte
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gRegorLove catches up on all the coffee talk
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dgold vivus: and the strength of either coffee drink depends on how much coffee has been adulterated
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Zegnat Ars Technica has put Twitter on their Deathwatch list https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/12/license-expired-the-ars-technica-2018-deathwatch/
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[kevinmarks] coffee << http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3641
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Loqi ok, I added "http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3641" to the "See Also" section of /coffee
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[kevinmarks] I got my boys an aeropress each for Christmas
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snarfed [kevinmarks]++
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vivus [kevinmarks]++
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vivus interesting
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