#indieweb 2018-01-01

2018-01-01 UTC
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aaronpk happy new year UTC!
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tantek \o/
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[kevinmarks] Bong
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snarfed released v1.3 of the wordpress micropub plugin. https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Description Micropub is an open API standard that is used to create posts on one’s own domain using third-party clients. Web apps and native apps (e.g. iPhone, Android) can use Micropub to post short notes, photos, events or other posts to you...
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snarfed GWG++ for lots of contributions!
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Loqi gwg has 225 karma in this channel (298 overall)
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GWG snarfed: I have another surprise for you
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snarfed oh boy
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GWG I'm rewriting the IndieAuth plugin and will be adding options there to configure an IndieAuth server.
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GWG So, both plugins can use the same option setting
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[dgold] Happy New Year UTC
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[dgold] I was outside blowing a shofar
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GWG [dgold]: Really?
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[dgold] Yup
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GWG I can grab mine if you want to jam
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snarfed GWG: ok! curious to see.
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GWG snarfed: A little later tonight. pfefferle's implementation came in so early in that I had to make modifications to bring it to the current specification. I'd love your input.
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GWG Oh, and no. Haven't written unit tests yet
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aaronpk congrats snarfed and GWG!
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snarfed lol
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GWG Maybe I can borrow some of yours
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[dgold] Feel if so,e neighbours can set off fireworks, then they can hardly complain at a prehistoric bugle..
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aaronpk hm wordpress doesn't provide URLs for releases?
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GWG aaronpk: In what sense?
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aaronpk trying to find a permalink to the 1.3 release
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snarfed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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aaronpk settles for https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/releases/tag/v1.3 instead
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snarfed yup
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GWG Is there another fully functional Indieauth Authentication server I can test this against?
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snarfed btw GWG before sending new big PRs, consider sending me a brief description of what you plan to do. quicker to iterate on designs in chat first before writing code!
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GWG snarfed: I've learned that.
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GWG In this case, pfefferle turned the plugin over because he'd stopped working on it.
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[miklb] hmm. Need to investigate why bridgy is backfeeding multiple copies of the same replies. This one I got 4 copies of same Twitter reply.
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snarfed [miklb]: just multiple webmention HTTP requests? or separate source URLs?
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[miklb] I don’t think so? I POSSE a note to Twitter and the replies come in multiples
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snarfed example?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Awl alum Carrie Frye speculated that…female writers in particular, have declared to themselves, “I’m going to make an Internet on which my essays go out" by Kevin Marks on 2018-01-01 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/awl-alum-carrie-frye-speculated-thatfemale-writers-in-particular-have
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@kevinmarks Silos gonna silo, new year's edition. Make an #indieweb resolution? https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/947487699002380288 (twitter.com/_/status/947626365628624896)
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[miklb] https://miklb.com/2017/12/2987/ is the note I posted (tweet quote) and the replies are in moderation. Now up to 5. Should I approve them all so can debug snarfed?
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Loqi [Michael Bishop] reminding myself to check back on the replies to this tomorrow. Already a trove of great ideas!
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snarfed [miklb]: sure, or just send me the source URLs
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[miklb] grr. I just accidentally deleted them.
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snarfed np
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snarfed https://brid.gy/twitter/miklb doesn't show dupes
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Loqi miklb
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snarfed but it does show that your server is 500ing the wms, which is probably the problem
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snarfed (bridgy is retrying)
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[miklb] weird. but they come through. Will have to debug tomorrow. Thanks for taking a look
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KartikPrabhu also deuping the webmentions by source and target is a good idea
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[miklb] I believe the WordPress plugin does that
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[miklb] this is a fairly new thing I’ll have to investigate. Wonder if it has to do with the FastCGI caching I turned on earlier this week
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tomasparks I am having trouble getting omnibear working my server log is give 401 (unauthorised) when I try to post something
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tomasparks when I use curl and a borrowed auth-code I can post something
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tomasparks using https://gist.github.com/adactio/8168e6b78da7b16a4644 with few changes
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@indiescripter Don't miss this pretty cool effort by #indieweb practitioner, Aaron Parecki! @thiagoviski @ChrisAldrich (twitter.com/_/status/947671873872998401)
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tantek fascinating I just started getting emails from "JoinDiaspora" saying it's people's birthdays
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strugee happy new year from PST, all :-)
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strugee made another IndieMark badge draft: https://people.strugee.net/~alex/indiemark%20template%20draft%202%20invisible%20paths.svg
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strugee this one I think doesn't have enough in the middle and the circles feel kinda weird. but at least it doesn't (ab)use the logo :-)
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tomasparks how do I download/export my facebook data
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ancarda There's a tool in the settings, tomasparks: https://www.facebook.com/help/131112897028467/
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tomasparks ancarda: I know about that option, but I at looking backfilling my website
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ancarda Ah ok
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ancarda Yeah it'd be nice if they gave a JSON file or something rather than an HTML file
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ancarda (or maybe in addition, as you can open the HTML file directly)
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tomasparks I think I read about wordpress facebook importer, can anybody confirm?
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tantek !tell tomasparks re: export facebook data: https://indieweb.org/Facebook#How_to_export_your_data
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tomasparks !tell tantek Re: export facebook data: I looked at that page
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi tomasparks: tantek left you a message 11 minutes ago: re: export facebook data: https://indieweb.org/Facebook#How_to_export_your_data
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[kevinmarks] The problem is not that it's an html file, it's that it's missing links and microformats
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tomasparks I think i've found what i was looking for https://github.com/cfinke/Keyring-Facebook-Importer
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Loqi [cfinke] Keyring-Facebook-Importer: A Facebook importer for use with the Keyring and Keyring Social Importers WordPress plugins.
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tomasparks f**k I hate how Facebook Developer needs a cell phone number
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tomasparks for 2FA
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sketchess Good morning Loqi, good morning Indieweb. :)
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Zegnat Happy new year sknebel
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Zegnat Happy new year sketchess
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Zegnat (woops, tabcompleted too quickly.)
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sketchess :))) You too, Zegnat. I am sure, 2018 will be fantastic. Today I am officially named 'student'.
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Zegnat Nice
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Zegnat 2018 started bad with my failed IndieWeb commitment though :P
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sketchess which kind of commitment?
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/2018-01-01-commitments#Martijn_van_der_Ven
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sketchess Hmmm, looks interesting. I still do not understand the full case. Well, it's fine with me.
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sketchess I think you are overdoing it a little by naming it a 'bad start'.
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Zegnat Yeah, mostly kidding about that, haha
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Loqi hehe
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sketchess xD So, what are you really doing then, Zegnat?
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Zegnat I am working on those commitments.
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sketchess Ah.
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sketchess My self settled year will end in 5 month. I set a small goal for myself. A beautiful designed and ready to go first page. ;D
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Zegnat Even if my commitment comes in a day late, I still think it is worth shipping it as fast as possible.
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Zegnat Having a good first page is definitely important
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sketchess Yeah. And a great journey to enjoy, too.
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sketchess I think my studies will influence me alot and my creative work.
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sketchess It already has.
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sketchess Since IWC Berlin I understand the term 'selfdogfooding' much better. *thought
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Zegnat good :)
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sketchess A moment of enlightenment. xD
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@jkphl To @aaronpk @calum_ryan @Sebsel @adactio @egoexpress @martijnvdven for lots of great #indieweb moments (and more) (twitter.com/_/status/947825747460227072)
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sketchess If Indieweb has one thing to offer than the chance to learn from different ideas and point of views.
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sketchess I think that is the best part of Indieweb.
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sketchess :)))
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sketchess What do you think, Zegnat?
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Zegnat I think the people are awesome. I can build a blog without ever having heard of IndieWeb, but I would miss out on a lot of great people that way.
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sketchess What do you mean by 'miss out'?
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Zegnat Never know about them.
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Zegnat So I think IndieWeb is cool because of the community.
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sketchess Interessting how I tripped over Indieweb. I was searching for terms like 'how to start a social project'...... thihihihi
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sketchess The past 2 years I have met 250 great people in person. Indieweb included.
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Zegnat I don’t track meeting people. Maybe I should.
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sketchess Oh I didn't track it too, Zegnat. It somehow just happend.
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Zegnat I mean that I do not know how many people I have met, because I didn’t track and my memory isn’t good with people
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sketchess It is amazing that I know 50% still by their names.
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sketchess Hmmm, no it should not amaze me. I do things which are important to me. Very important.
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sketchess Very well. See ya around. Still important things left to do.
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sketchess Have a good morning Indieweb.
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sknebel good morning indieweb!
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sknebel oh, I just missed sketchess
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Language Log has set out its stall and its intentions for 2018, which I applaud. There's talk of a redesign. I hope that in doing" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2018-01-01 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2018/language-log-has-set-out-its-stall-and-its-intentions
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[kevinmarks] One for the WordPress support group? They want several things that bridgy and WordPress plugins can provide
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aaronpk snarfed: webmention.io has received 20,023 webmentions that are not backfed from silos (bridgy and ownyourswarm)
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snarfed thanks aaronpk!
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snarfed is that easy to rerun? could you rerun it and include ownyourswarm?
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aaronpk 25,593 including ownyourswarm
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aaronpk (wow)
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snarfed thx
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snarfed (agreed, that's a lot of OYS backfeed, considering how new it is)
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snarfed (friendly ping voxpelli! and happy new year)
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aaronpk it does send like 2-5 per checkin
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snarfed ah ok
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GWG aaronpk, I need to check-in somewhere to check coins displaying on my site
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aaronpk hehe those are fun
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GWG Unfortunately, until this week, swarm coins weren't a stored property
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GWG Is it strange I'm thinking of taking an unscheduled trip somewhere for that reason
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GWG Maybe I'll drive to the supermarket
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GWG Okay, waiting for coins
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@fletcher0xFF My New Year's resolution #4: Support the #indieweb by starting my own blog in my own space. (twitter.com/_/status/947911303590539267)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Experiment with FourSquare, WordPress and the Keyring Social Importers plugin" by Khürt on 2018-01-01 https://tracking.feedpress.it/link/1771/7915786
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@philnelson If you ever wonder why your #indieweb friends are a little harried with their social media, it’s because a serious… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/947930178856009728 (twitter.com/_/status/947930178856009728)
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aaronpk Loqi: y u truncate that tweet
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Zegnat Hmm, wonder who/what is being described there as “#indieweb”
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Mark Matienzo: Iterative Intentions for 2018" on 2018-01-01 http://matienzo.org/2018/iterative-intentions/
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tantek trying out the "best nine" sites for Instagram, and made me wonder if anyone has built an IndieWeb equivalent?
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Loqi tantek: tomasparks left you a message 10 hours, 20 minutes ago: Re: export facebook data: I looked at that page
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tantek e.g. check all your photo posts from the past year
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tantek and create a grid of the top 9 posts by # of likes
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tantek feels like the kind of thing aaronpk could build for himself in a few hours or less ;)
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tantek theoretically if you're backfeeding all your likes from POSSE copies across FB, IG, Twitter, Flickr, then an indieweb "top nine" would be more accurate than any silo-specific top nine
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sebsel One of the sad things is that Instagram only allows backfeeds from the first ten likes.
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tantek yeah that's a limitation I suppose
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tantek still this could be built as a service where you just enter your homepage
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tantek assuming there's a way to navigate / crawl to your past year's worth of photo posts
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sebsel Yeah, you can get the count, so you can get it to work. You just don't get the names / pictures for all those likes.
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tantek and it could figure out how to read your /likes on each post, or, for extra credit, it could detect if you're using one of a few webmention receiving proxies (webmention.io or herokuapp) and call its API to check your likes for that post
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tantek what is best nine
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "best nine" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "best nine is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk I haven't seen that on IG yet!
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tantek best nine is a popular aggregation and summary post practice on [[Instagram]], supported by services like https://2017bestnine.com/ which only ask you for your username then return a 3x3 grid of your 9 most liked photos.
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk I have that data on my own posts easily accessible
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tantek instagram << best nine
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Loqi ok, I added "[[best nine]]" to the "See Also" section of /Instagram
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tantek best nine << https://2016bestnine.com/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://2016bestnine.com/" to the "See Also" section of /best_nine
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tantek best nine << https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/2017bestnine/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/2017bestnine/" to the "See Also" section of /best_nine
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tantek best nine << https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/2016bestnine/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/2016bestnine/" to the "See Also" section of /best_nine
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tantek best nine << Brainstorming: It should be possible to build an indieweb version into your own site, or even a service that asked for an indieweb site URL, checked all [[photo]] posts from the past year, created a grid of the top 9 posts by number of likes. Advantage: more total likes from backfeeds and indieweb sites. Extra credit: detect if site delegates webmention receiving to webmention.io or herokuapp, call its API for likes
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Loqi ok, I added "Brainstorming: It should be possible to build an indieweb version into your own site, or even a service that asked for an indieweb site URL, checked all [[photo]] posts from the past year, created a grid of the top 9 posts by number of likes. Advantage: more total likes from backfeeds and indieweb sites. Extra credit: detect if site delegates webmention receiving to webmention.io or herokuapp, call its API for likes" to the "See Also" section of /best_nine
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tantek post.
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tantek I think I'm going to do 100 days of positive posts again
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tantek starting today
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tantek I have other 100d projects I want to do (deleting apps, deleting accounts), but I will start with 100dopp
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Zegnat I am going to do the thing where I read at least 1 book / week this year.
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tantek wow
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tantek does that mean also posting at least 1 /read post a week? ;)
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Zegnat Sure. The challenge is finishing my Micropub endpoint in time for the first read post ;)
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tantek hey that sounds like an extension to a 2018-01-01 goal! ;)
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Zegnat Well, I documented failing said commitment already. But I haven’t stopped work towards it :P
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Zegnat Guess my new deadline is the 7th? Otherwise I can’t post a /read post for this week.
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tantek yes, give yourself an extension rather than a failing
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CamB Hi Idies. Happy new Year
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