#indieweb 2018-01-28

2018-01-28 UTC
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Loqi [superfeedr] "👓 Untangling @WithKnown plugin conflicts on the #IndieWeb (Reactions vs Bookmarks)" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-01-24 http://boffosocko.com/2018/01/24/untangling-withknown-plugin-conflicts-on-the-indieweb-reactions-vs-bookmarks/
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@Max100KC The IndieWeb outside of Facebook is full of opportunities https://tpl.host/IJ2SUCY #linux #leancanvas https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUl3G3vX0AAYvtn.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/957427368737550336)
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krup hello thar! i am having trouble implementing adactio's minimal micropub endpoint, i keep getting "missing post value in scope"
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krup anyone have any insights?
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krup or could explain in plain language what that actually means
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GWG The value 'post' needs to be in scope.
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GWG Literally
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aaronpk krup: apps have been switching to "create" instead of "post" which is probably the problem
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aaronpk try changing that to "create" here https://gist.github.com/adactio/8168e6b78da7b16a4644#file-micropub-php-L66
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krup hmm that is what it is set to currently
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aaronpk it's already "create"?
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krup yes
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aaronpk which app are you logging in to? it's possible the app is not requesting the "create" scope then
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krup micropublish
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krup ill try quill
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aaronpk in the sign-in prompt in Micropublish try choosing the second radio button that has "create" in it
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krup hmm, i am recieving a blank error, but in quill i get an error saying that the endpoint didn't return a location header
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aaronpk well that's progress. sounds like the code isn't getting all the way to https://gist.github.com/adactio/8168e6b78da7b16a4644#file-micropub-php-L82
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aaronpk invites krup to #indieweb-dev for more micropub debugging. we try to keep code discussion out of this channel
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krup i see
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krup thanks
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[kevinmarks] Open data problems https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/957318498102865920
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@Nrg8000 Strava released their global heatmap. 13 trillion GPS points from their users (turning off data sharing is an option). https://medium.com/strava-engineering/the-global-heatmap-now-6x-hotter-23fc01d301de … It looks very pretty, but not amazing for Op-Sec. US Bases are clearly identifiable and mappable https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUkT3ORV4AAotax.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/957318498102865920)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb WordPress Feedback" by Khürt Williams on 2018-01-27 https://islandinthenet.com/indieweb-wordpress-feedback/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedpress.me&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+island
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[xavierroy] I confess... That was me. 😀
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@ChrisAldrich @estellevw While I have immense respect for the creators of http://noti.st, I'm going to follow Rachel's advice and host all of my events, RSVPs, notes, slides, etc. on my own site. #IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/event https://twitter.com/rachelandrew/status/772432792529539072 (twitter.com/_/status/957493354698366977)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@estellevw While I have immense respect for the creators of noti.st, I'm going to follow Rachel's advice and host all of my events, RSVPs, notes," by Chris Aldrich on 2018-01-28 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2018/estellevw-while-i-have-immense-respect-for-the-creators-of
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[kevinmarks] https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/28/morozov-artificial-intelligence-data-technology-online?__indieweb_impression=true
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@kevinmarks “… the digital equivalent of kale and quinoa and browsing the artisanal, handcrafted content hidden from the uninitiated” sounds like #indieweb to me https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/28/morozov-artificial-intelligence-data-technology-online?__indieweb_impression=true (twitter.com/_/status/957549044036861952)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "“… the digital equivalent of kale and quinoa and browsing the artisanal, handcrafted content hidden from the uninitiated” sounds like #indieweb to me https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/28/morozov-artificial-intelligence-data-technology-online?__indieweb_impression=true" by Kevin Marks on 2018-01-28 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/-the-digital-equivalent-of-kale-and-quinoa-and-browsing
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb, jeremycherfas :)
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jeremycherfas Morning zegnat. I've decided I cannot get any further with RSS to Known at the moment.
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Zegnat I am still looking into the Like/Bookmark Known plugin
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Zegnat Had to take a break from that though, as I got stuck in a “how would I have built this” though experiment instead of concrete seeing how we could fix it, haha
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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dgold how would one describe the subset of the web that tools like X-Ray and pin13 can process?
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dgold Semantic Web?
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Zegnat Probably, yes
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Zegnat tantek and [kevinmarks] once spoke of the “lower-case semantic web”: http://tantek.com/presentations/2004etech/realworldsemanticspres.html
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Zegnat I just realised that going to a friend’s Facebook profile starts the page with a section titled “Posts you haven’t seen”. So, Facebook, if you know I haven’t seen them, why not put them in my newsfeed?
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sknebel <insert basic data structure joke here>
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Zegnat Hmm, what is the difference between /data-portability and /export ? Seem to collect the same information about exporting from silos.
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@_am1t Experimentation continues with IndieWeb projects – over to Webmentions. It is a really wonderful concept which enables responses to a post to be written on one’s own website. As Jeremy Keith wrote in one of his posts: Basically, it’s an equivalent to pingback. Let’s say I w… (twitter.com/_/status/957646093730316288)
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[colinwalker] Zegnat: I’d say that for data to be portable it has to be in a format that can be readily used elsewhere, whereas an export just means you’ve got it. Data-portability is a subset of export.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Someone's a bit fed up" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2018-01-28 https://ascraeus.org/thoughts-on-identity/
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Zegnat dgold++ nice writeup!
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@mrshll1001 @SamMFinnigan Do indieweb stuff? Build software that lets you communicate with the platform on your terms? It's what I do w/ Brimstone. e.g. I pull in no more than 20 tweets at a time. (twitter.com/_/status/957696684900970496)
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@SamMFinnigan @mrshll1001 Mm. I know it works for you. Indieweb kinda starts with the privilege in being able to code and having the time to work on it though. It's not accessible. (twitter.com/_/status/957698590008332290)
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@mrshll1001 @SamMFinnigan That's my problem w/ Indieweb tbh and why we should just go fully decentralised and sack off the web entirely as a broken model. (twitter.com/_/status/957705944892346374)
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@kevinmarks @SamMFinnigan @mrshll1001 We get that, and are trying to make it easier over time https://indieweb.org/generations there are ways to use indieweb with http://micro.blog and WordPress and other cms's (twitter.com/_/status/957708215093026817)
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@aj100kblog The IndieWeb outside of Facebook is full of opportunities https://tpl.host/668Q0KQ #webdesing #linux #seo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUp8Y6BX0AMziHS.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/957714652057784320)
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