#indieweb 2018-02-05
2018-02-05 UTC
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[kevinmarks] hm, is this indieweb adjacent? http://humanetech.com/
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[hans] My FirefoxOS phone never found a place in my life 😞
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@Max100KC The IndieWeb outside of Facebook is full of opportunities https://tpl.host/0443LEL #growthhacking #webdesign #linux #startup https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVQldfyXUAA9Kg6.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/960433821064851457)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
# jeremycherfas Very cool. Thanks. I'll make a note for later.
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cweiske and the README describes that installation (where to put the .phar file) better: http://cweiske.de/shpub.htm#installation
# jeremycherfas Cweiske++
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@aj100kblog The IndieWeb outside of Facebook is full of opportunities https://tpl.host/RWGK2JK #webdesign #leanstartup https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVQ1wjnXcAAFt7G.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/960451742398861312)
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@sl007 @JYSThe https://indieweb.org/Events - there will be an @IndieWebCampDE in May in Düsseldorf ! (twitter.com/_/status/960453362759106560)
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# [hans] So, now that I have my site accepting micropub but not sending anything, is there a normal way of converting my feed to tweets?
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Loqi Bridgy is an open source project and proxy that implements backfeed and POSSE as a service https://indieweb.org/bridgy
# [hans] Ah! I misunderstood that page to be all about webmentions, but bridgy itself makes it clear
# [hans] I’ll still need a way to generate the webmention. (At present, I use micro.blog apps, which hit a little micropub-to-github endpoint, which triggers a rebuild of my static site, the feed of which is parse by micro.blog. No one in that chain is webmentioning.)
# [hans] indeed, I’m actually going to sign up for that to keep things simple. but for the purpose of creating a HOWTO for some friends, I wanted to avoid that dependency first 😐
# [hans] and there might be other benefits to working webmentions into my CMS-less life.
# [hans] well, I’m also using travis and middleman (jekyll-like) but even still have to wait for cloudfront invalidation before I know a URL works 😐
# [hans] I’m rapidly heading towards “tell friends to just use wordpress.com”
# [hans] meet the new silo, different than the old silo 😉
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[chrisaldrich] WP.com can technically do webmentions via bridgy, but they're not ideal.
# [chrisaldrich] I keep meaning to try but paid accounts also have access to plugins which might allow native wm support too.
# [chrisaldrich] makes a note to try it out this month
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petermolnar adding webmentions into the PuSH server of the website would fix the static site problems
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# [hans] this seems to be what I was looking for: https://github.com/strugee/lazymention
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# [hans] (+ bridgy and some hacking)
# [hans] Is it bad form to send a webmention our before the URL is globally available?
# [hans] *out
# [hans] 😐
# [hans] there’s so much friction between indieweb and my slow web 😉
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# [hans] I get it, but I selfishly was trying to avoid “wait until the CDN updates globally, then do this”
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# Loqi sl007: tantek left you a message 6 days ago: want to create a simple /2018/FOSDEM stub page to at least list IndieWeb participation / talks etc ?
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# [kevinmarks] Subscribe to your own websub endpoint and send the webmentions then?
# [kevinmarks] Of course, that means making a websub endpoint
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benwerd Surely an indieweb project should apply for this: https://werd.io/2018/the-prototype-fund-is-looking-for-25-open-source-projects
# Loqi [Ben Werdmüller] The Prototype Fund is looking for 25 open source projects to fund with up to €47,500. You need to be resident in Germany, but honestly, this sounds great. https://prototypefund.de/en/
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# [ronguest] thanks
# [ronguest] Need some help w/IndieAuth. I added the rel=me as documented on my site and have my Twitter and GitHub profiles pointing to my site. But when I run the IndieAuth setup it says it doesn't find any verified providers. Do I need to add a rel=me to those profiles? Don't see how to do that...
# [ronguest] The exact error I get is: No rel=me link was found on https://twitter.com/ronguest to https://ron.theguests.us/
# sknebel your twitter profile links to http://,not https
# [ronguest] ahhh
# [ronguest] changed it and that fixed it for Twitter, next up Git hub
# [ronguest] yes
# [ronguest] ok, now 'successfully signed in'
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# [ronguest] that is not documented AFAICT: https://indieauth.com/setup
# [ronguest] in fact what looks like an example does not have https
# sknebel https is not required, but it has to match. I suspect it would work if your http://ron.theguests.us/ redirected to the https version
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@caseyjohnston things I’m looking for: reported stories/essays features unusual formats (stat breakdowns, gif collections, etc.) about: the ~future~ of tech, science, climate change, energy, food, health, wellness, money, genetics, how social media means we lose all grasp of reality ok go (twitter.com/_/status/960609415002054661)
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# [ronguest] @sknebel ok, but then the page I linked to is still misleading as the top part uses https for the rel=me but the bottom example for the profiles doesn't use https
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# [ronguest] at the top in the examples there is, e.g. <link href="https://twitter.com/aaronpk" rel="me">
# [ronguest] But in the Step #2 in that box it has http://aaronparecki.com/
# [ronguest] no https
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# [ronguest] ok, yes for a n00b like me clearer/simpler is better
# [ronguest] Just a statement on that page to either only use https or to ensure both are the same would have saved me a lot of time 🙂
# [ronguest] yes tantek that's how I knew it wasn't working
# [ronguest] BTW Step 2 of that page is returning an error 500 in Chrome
# [ronguest] the "Send Mentions" check
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Some Fairly-Recent Must- and Should-Reads..." by J. Bradford DeLong on 2018-02-12 http://www.bradford-delong.com/2018/02/current-links-1-1-1.html
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# [jjdelc] hello #indieweb
# [jjdelc] I have a couple of questions, one about micropob and the media endpoint. As far as I can read, the media endpoint is just a parallel file upload manager that provides you links to paste in your content as you'd prefer. Is that understanding correct?
# [jjdelc] That is a different behavior from `photo` upload on the micropub endpoint
# [jjdelc] on it, I've taken a deliberate choice that if there's a `photo` on the POST I'll show the photo first and the text below, since there is no way to indicate where in the content I want the picture to be, unless I invent some markup
# [jjdelc] I see, that's a client implementation decition. But it isn't POSTing the `photo` as part of the entry payload
# [jjdelc] that's fine, I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. In the case of Ownyourgram it will include the photo on the same entry payload, so I have to handle that pic within the same micropub endpoint
# [jjdelc] thanks
# [jjdelc] What should the media endpoint return in case of multiple pictures uloaded? Multiple `Location` headers?
# [jjdelc] Ah! gotcha!
# [jjdelc] Thanks aaronpk
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# [kevinmarks] Google working on WordPress performance https://searchengineland.com/need-speed-google-dedicates-engineering-team-accelerate-development-wordpress-ecosystem-291214/amp?__indieweb_impression=true
# [jjdelc] My other question is regarding the blog endpoing, Right now I use my www.domain for indieauth, but my blog is on a different subdomain. It's all fine and dandy, but my client never discovers what is the blog's main URL, only after a post is made I get the new post's permalink, but still not the blog's index
# [jjdelc] I guess that could be an attribute from the `q=config` response, but I'd be just adding things as I desire on it
# [jjdelc] it isn't really a problem, just something I noticed. On my client I was showing the site's URL, but I realized it was my indiauth site and not my blog
# [jjdelc] https://jj.isgeek.net/2018/02/this-is-how-my-composer-looks/ <- the title shows my `www.`, but my blog is inder `jj.`
# [jjdelc] yup, that's what I have
# [jjdelc] I guess I can add a non-standard `blog-url` key in my micropub config for my client to consume if I want to show the blog's page...
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aaronpk there's some discussion about similar ideas already: https://indieweb.org/Micropub-brainstorming#Multiple_Micropub_Endpoints
# [jjdelc] yeah, non standard doesn't sits too well with me either. Not a huge issue, but just something I noted that I had no way to discoer
# [jjdelc] thanks for the help 🙂
# [jjdelc] I'm currently working on this and wanted to make sure things were compliant, I only got my micropub endpoint and media endpoint and client so far, but I'm happy with the results
# [jjdelc] tantek you mean #dev?
# [jjdelc] Ah, I see
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[cleverdevil] aaronpk just FYI, it looks like Monocle / Aperture has stopped updating for me.
# [cleverdevil] Its still responding just fine, however 🙂
# [cleverdevil] I did, but maybe it didn't stick.
# [cleverdevil] I'll logout of Together and back in.
# [cleverdevil] Huh, it didn't stick.
# [cleverdevil] Weird.
# [cleverdevil] Editing again 🙂
# [cleverdevil] Sorry for the false alarm!