#indieweb 2018-02-16

2018-02-16 UTC
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[kevinmarks] https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/katienotopoulos/how-i-cracked-facebooks-new-algorithm-and-tortured-my?utm_term=.kfOOAzX69&__indieweb_impression=true
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[shurcool] hey indieweb people
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[prtksxna] [shurcool] o/
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[shurcool] I've been working on something lately. it's far from finished, but it has reached a point where I can use use it myself more often than not and avoid having to view it upstream on the silo
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[shurcool] so I wanted to share it 🙂
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[prtksxna] That is great 🙂
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[shurcool] do people use GitHub here?
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[prtksxna] Yep, https://github.com/indieweb
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[shurcool] (hopefully a rhetorical question but we'll see)
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[shurcool] I mean like for hosting personal projects. so, [prtksxna] can you give me an example of a pull request on github you looked at recently
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Ruxton yes many of us do
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[shurcool] give me a link to your favorite PR 😄
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Ruxton seems about as useful as me showing you what colour socks i'm wearing
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[shurcool] humor me 😉
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[prtksxna] [shurcool] Does your tool work with Github as a silo?
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[prtksxna] Not indieweb related, but https://github.com/etsy/hound/pull/274
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Loqi [prtksxna] #274 UI: Make repo and file titles sticky
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Ruxton https://github.com/mroth/lolcommits/pull/346
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Loqi [freehugs] #346 Added animated capture for Windows
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Ruxton socks are white
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[prtksxna] hehe
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[shurcool] cool, that'll work. so, I can view github PRs via my site now. here's some screenshots
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[shurcool] http://instantshare.win/1j9nvncpiy88e.png
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[shurcool] http://instantshare.win/t4lza9rxihs1.png
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[shurcool] the inline comments don't show up on diff view, still have work cut out there
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[shurcool] @Ruxton here's a screenshot of your PR http://instantshare.win/1uqpvyv0pbm1a.png
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[shurcool] (just as heads up, only I can see them, because it's tied to my github account, so if I make any posts, it'd show up as me on github.com. if you visit that url, it'll just redirect you to github)
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[shurcool] this is the PR where it all happened, if you wanna see some of the code behind it. https://github.com/shurcooL/home/pull/16
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Loqi [shurcooL] #16 Add change tracking service and changes app.
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[shurcool] I plan to keep working on it, making it more feature complete and pleasant over time. but it feels pretty cool to be able to view PRs without leaving my personal site 😄
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[shurcool] I'm not finding a wiki page about code review tools... I'll have to make it sometime (i.e., analogous to https://indieweb.org/issue_tracker)
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[prtksxna] [shurcool] There is https://indieweb.org/edit#Lightweight_Pull_Request
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[prtksxna] But I don’t think it is very relevant to what you’re doing
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[shurcool] thanks
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[shurcool] oh, I just realized this link should work for other people, if you wanna see this in action for yourself: https://dmitri.shuralyov.com/font/woff2/...$changes/1
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[shurcool] it's a local change for a self-hosted Go package (it's not on github at all)
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[prtksxna] Nice to see the diffs in GoMono 🙂
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[shurcool] are you also a fan of that font?
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[prtksxna] I’ve looked at it once. Was wondering if I should use it for day to day work 🙂
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-02-16.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[shurcool] i've switched to it and generally enjoying it. but it's probably mostly because I'm a minimalist and Go fanboy, and it has a very liberal license...
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[shurcool] so just using the font everywhere means I rely/depend on fewer proprietary things, etc
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[prtksxna] nods
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[shurcool] my mini review: https://twitter.com/shurcooL/status/900220414672154625
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@shurcooL My review of the Go font a few months in. Still liking it a lot! It's surprisingly enjoyable considering it's not the nicest looking one. 1/ https://twitter.com/shurcooL/status/888977117039513601 (twitter.com/_/status/900220414672154625)
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[shurcool] anyway, thanks for taking a look at my latest indieweb development 🙂
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@jjdelc Testing offline posting from #micropub client . #openweb #indieweb https://jj.isgeek.net/2018/02/16-075938-am/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWJEyGVVMAEAKgx.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/964408901574705152)
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Zegnat Interesting post about /Facebook_Master_Algorighm specifically and non-chronological feeds in general: https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/how-i-cracked-facebooks-new-algorithm-and-tortured-my
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Zegnat Oh, and there is this on embedding content (e.g. tweets) that might be relevant for people! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/federal-judge-says-embedding-tweet-can-be-copyright-infringement
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[gerwitz] oh, fiddlesticks
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sl007 Saw https://bornhack.dk/bornhack-2018/ in the wiki. Will go there with a van from NL border via Dortmund/404/Hannover and Sassnitz - and then the ferry is just 30€.
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sl007 (plenty of free space)
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Zegnat If only that wasn’t an outdoor thing, he
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sl007 Zegnat - what can go wrong in August? I could also bring a robust yurt.
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Zegnat Insects. Dirt. I’m afraid I have just grown way too phobic to go camping.
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Zegnat It does look interesting though, I’ll bookmark it.
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sl007 You can also book a cabin. https://bornhack.dk/bornhack-2018/info/#sleep
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sl007 I was never so happy when a script stopped running https://codepen.io/sebilasse/full/EWRwWY/ #journalismisnotacrime #FreeThemAll
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@Dries Blog: My POSSE plan for evolving my site https://dri.es/my-posse-plan-for-evolving-my-site #openweb #indieweb #posse #drupal https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWKLZRxW0AAPokW.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/964486539844685825)
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@nitishchpr Blog: My POSSE plan for evolving my site https://dri.es/my-posse-plan-for-evolving-my-site #openweb #indieweb #posse #drupal https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWKLZRxW0AAPokW.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/964487593076326401)
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schmarty interesting post from Dries
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schmarty he could probably get a lot of the bigger challenges he wants by implementing micropub and picking up Indigenous
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aaronpk I wonder how mature this is https://www.drupal.org/project/micropub
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sknebel look at the source, it's https://gist.github.com/adactio/8168e6b78da7b16a4644 + some code to add the rels necessary, hardcoded to indieauth.com and the authors domain
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sknebel + some storage code it seems
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aaronpk needs some work :)
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2018/02/16/4/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Great followup post! > I'd like to explore building a simple iOS application to remove any friction from posting updates on the go. If your site supports Micropub (https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/), then you can use any number of Micropub apps to p...
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schmarty aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 543 karma in this channel (1565 overall)
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aaronpk (also manually copied to the comment form on his site)
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schmarty aaronpk: i feel like that comment is missing a link to your "build a micropub endpoint in 45 minutes" video ;}
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tantek aaronpk++ nice the comment is already showing up on his post too!
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Loqi aaronpk has 544 karma in this channel (1566 overall)
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aaronpk schmarty: oh yeah haha. I still want to make a better version of that!
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Loqi ahahaha
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schmarty i need to write up the work i did for ghostparty.today
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schmarty my improv partner and i wanted a mega-retro geocities-like site for this silly improv project
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schmarty and she was already posting to instagram
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schmarty so i used glitch to write and deploy a (bad) port of selfauth along with a micropub endpoint that writes new posts directly into our index.html and uploads it to neocities via their API
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aaronpk checks ownyourgram.com
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aaronpk sure enough! I see ghostparty.today on ownyourgram.com 😂
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aaronpk amazing
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aaronpk that's delightful
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aaronpk schmarty++
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Loqi schmarty has 37 karma in this channel (70 overall)
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schmarty yeah, it's totally working
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schmarty it's a single page site, with fragment IDs for the different bits (h-card vs h-feed vs individual h-entry)
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schmarty i love it so much. it is so ridiculous.
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schmarty i was even able to RSVP to our valentine's day show from my own site 😂 https://martymcgui.re/2018/01/31/224122/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] I'm going! Every GHOST PARTY 👻🎉 show is special, and this one may be the most special yet. Please join us to celebrate… love? Probably? Tickets available on Eventbrite for only $5!
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schmarty i should write a post about how it all works
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aaronpk that's pretty great
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sknebel cool!
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sknebel although: geocities-like and no crazy background?
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schmarty sknebel: we originally had the animated ghosts tiled as a background, but it was a *little* much :}
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@zpinternational Happy #femalefilmmakerfriday to all you ladies out there. Keep making those #films #indiefilm #indieweb #indiedoc #indiefilm ! (twitter.com/_/status/964564061630402563)
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tantek silo-quits << 2016-01-01 George DeMet (founder & CEO Palantir) quit [[Facebook]]: [https://medium.com/@gdemet/six-weeks-without-facebook-and-counting-16130e383933 Six Weeks Without Facebook (And Counting)]
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Loqi ok, I added "2016-01-01 George DeMet (founder & CEO Palantir) quit [[Facebook]]: [https://medium.com/@gdemet/six-weeks-without-facebook-and-counting-16130e383933 Six Weeks Without Facebook (And Counting)]" to the "See Also" section of /silo-quits
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Facebook is Censoring My Notes" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-02-16 http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/16/facebook-is-censoring-my-notes/
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tantek interesting
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tantek wow that's pretty bad
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tantek !tell chrisaldrich worth adding http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/16/facebook-is-censoring-my-notes/ to /Facebook#Criticism and perhaps /why as well
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] Facebook is Censoring My Notes
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chrisaldrich Tantek, I wrote it up to do just that...
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Loqi chrisaldrich: tantek left you a message 9 minutes ago: worth adding http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/16/facebook-is-censoring-my-notes/ to /Facebook#Criticism and perhaps /why as well
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tantek what is the master algorithm
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Loqi Facebook Master Algorithm is the name given to Facebook's algorithm for determining what content to show in Facebook's reader (AKA News Feed shown on their logged-in homepage), also adopted and tweaked by Instagram for their reader (app home screen) https://indieweb.org/Master_Algorithm
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tantek what is rinsta
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rinsta" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rinsta is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek what is finsta
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "finsta" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "finsta is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek rinsta is a portmanteau for real [[Instagram]], a typically public account that conforms to typical Instagram posting expectations, like being highly curated; since most IndieWeb sites are mostly public, the behavior may be similar. Contrast with [[finsta]].
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Loqi ok
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-02-16.html
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Zegnat Looks like we made the photo work for the news letter, tantek!
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Zegnat Is there a way to add photo credits there? This wasn't uploaded to the wiki or published to the public domain.
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tantek finsta is a portmanteau of fake and [[Instagram]], a typically private pseudonym account that only a few close friends follow, and used to post more informally and frequently, without any of the typical Instagram posting conventions; as few IndieWeb are private, this may be worth exploring. Contrast with [[rinsta]].
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tantek what is finsta
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "finsta" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "finsta is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek finsta is a portmanteau of fake and [[Instagram]], a typically private pseudonym account that only a few close friends follow, and used to post more informally and frequently, without any of the typical Instagram posting conventions; as few IndieWeb are private, this may be worth exploring. Contrast with [[rinsta]].
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Loqi ok
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tantek Zegnat agreed - would be good to have at least provide a "via" for a source etc.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Going IndieWeb for Lent?" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-02-16 http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/16/going-indieweb-for-lent/
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@ChrisAldrich Going IndieWeb for Lent?: http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/16/going-indieweb-for-lent/ https://twitter.com/MrBryanRuby/status/963601397798395904 (twitter.com/_/status/964616946183491585)
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@ChrisAldrich I like the concept of this. Lent done #IndieWeb style. https://twitter.com/MrBryanRuby/status/963601397798395904 http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/16/going-indieweb-for-lent/ (twitter.com/_/status/964617097467711488)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-02-16.html
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[mifga] Say, i am looking to pick a tool or framework or markdown style solution that will allow me to write content separate from formatting that i can easily convert into a fairly vanilla pdf or slideshow formats. I am writing a bunch of 3D printing how-tos and thinking to make it easy to redeploy them to simple static generated html, slides, and downloadable pdfs, etc. I was thinking of messing with asciidoctor formatting (plus pandoc when needed), and
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[mifga] tools to get it out to either reveal.js style slides or something google slides or powerpoint can bring in — when i realized that needing powerpoint or google docs is pretty silly for so slight a thing, i’ll bet the indieweb community have non-application drive solutions!
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[mifga] Maybe folks here might have played with this kinda stuff 3-5 years ago with various plaintext to sites, pdfs, slides, ebooks, etc. I could use advice for directions to explore, from evolved site generators to microformat to git-to-documents solutions. Probably not just writing pure LaTeX though, for editing and collaborator’s sake!!
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[kevinmarks] Reveal is pretty good and does have a pdf friendly print template
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[kevinmarks] Hugo is a solid markdown+metadata to html generator, with very flexible templates
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-02-16.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWMWUaHUQAAhzmZ.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/964639287265214464)
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[mifga] thanks, [kevinmarks] - I’l take a look at both. I actually didn’t realized that reveal generates decent pdfs,
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grantcodes mifga: I have a directory on my site where I upload presentations, I use reveal with a custom style generated from my site theme, that way when I update my site style the presentations are updated too.
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grantcodes And for reveal I think you actually just print and save to pdf, but it definitely does pdf somehow
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[mifga] nice!
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[mifga] do you have a link? what you are talking about sounds like a perfect match!
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[mifga] (for your presentation self-hosting)
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[mifga] really I think i’m looking for models to consider for crafting slides with future extractions and style tweaking possibilities.