#indieweb 2018-04-12
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[jgmac1106] swentel no problem, I thought I pushed one crash report but will do them all. Did you let [kevinmarks] give a shout on TWIG? That is a crazy stress test.
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[kevinmarks] I didn't mention it, I just plugged indieweb generally
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[unoabraham] I'd love an invite too, a@brah.am.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-04-12 https://boffosocko.com/2018/04/11/reply-to-chris-jones-on-twitter/
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I like @jgmac1106's general idea, but having less overhead to manage and administer appealed to me a lot. Here's some thoughts on what I ended up doing: http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/18/rss-feeds-a-follow-up-on-my-indieweb-commitment-2017/
@mrkrndvs may have some insight too.
[more...] (twitter.com/_/status/984230568320688130)
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Links for the Day – April 11, 2018" by Ryan Gallagher on 2018-04-12 http://tracking.feedpress.it/link/13030/8831165
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@AlfonsoRomay ↩️ Es una aproximación, recuerda a Medium y es un modelo que también veo relativamente agotado. Me parece mejor alternativa seguir refugiándose en nuestras propias webs/blogs, después de tantos años. Generar contenidos desde nuestra propia plataforma. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/984306883036053504)
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@webrocker ↩️ Ich breche eine Lanze für die eigene Domain als Platz für den eigenen Kram. Und dann halt Inhalte in die Netzwerke syndizieren, wo sie im Malstrom der Eitelkeiten verbrannt werden können, aber vlt doch jemand zur Seite leiten. ❤️#indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/984308170993618944)
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@xandy_ebooks nonsense indieweb principles, you could have paired devices stored to select from. Steam's backup feature is kind of always thought pipe people were terrified by my competence. (twitter.com/_/status/984333459563909120)
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jeremycherfas Mornin' all
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tantek_ ^^^ aaronpk, per the profile bio https://twitter.com/xandy_ebooks, that's a bot, feel free to block
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# Loqi ok, I added "http://anouska.net/2018/02/blogging-and-why-its-important-to-bring-it-back/" to the "See Also" section of /principles https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=46833&oldid=46807
# [kevinmarks] “Instagram is a public platform.
# [kevinmarks] We do not own it. We never will. We cannot control it. So we need to accept that.
# [kevinmarks] But our blogs are OURS.
# [kevinmarks] We have spent years building our brands from the ground up, and it all started with our blogs. It is our very own personal space online. We control it. We decide what content goes up. We decide if we want to make changes to our website. There are no algorithms. There is no fuckery.”
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@toontoet Dat nieuwe 'sociale' Hyves wordt toch wel iets decentraals dat aansluiting zoekt bij het sociale web van #Mastodon, #PeerTube, #Diaspora, #Hubzilla en andere op #ActivityPub en #Indieweb gebaseerde platformen? Toch @OrigenInstitute? (twitter.com/_/status/984413319606960128)
# Loqi [superfeedr] "@mrkrndvs Most of my subdomains or for up MOOCs or pop-up learning events. I have found since so many users are new to Wordpress trying" by Greg McVerry on 2018-04-12 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/12/mrkrndvs-most-of-my-subdomains-or-for-up-moocs-or
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@jgmac1106 What exactly is #indieweb and how can we talk about it?: http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/12/what-exactly-is-indieweb-and-how-can-we-talk-about (twitter.com/_/status/984430116338974720)
# Loqi [superfeedr] "What exactly is #indieweb and how can we talk about it?" by Greg McVerry on 2018-04-12 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/12/what-exactly-is-indieweb-and-how-can-we-talk-about
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# [jgmac1106] feel free to critique or offer edits. At the edges of my technical capabilities in some of those discussions. Just trying to turn dev documentation into stuff for the rest of world.
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# [kevinmarks] Hyves is back?
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ As a note just wanted to share I am more of a consumer of #indieweb tools rather than a producer. Been trying to apply the principles in my #highered classes with a bunch of other #digped folks tracing lineage to #ds106 and #rhizo15 #rhizo16
Hopped… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/12/as-a-note-just-wanted-to-share-i-am-more (twitter.com/_/status/984448742869749761)
# Loqi [superfeedr] "As a note just wanted to share I am more of a consumer of #indieweb tools rather than a producer. Been trying to apply the" by Greg McVerry on 2018-04-12 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/12/as-a-note-just-wanted-to-share-i-am-more
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "An Introduction to the IndieWeb" on 2018-03-27 https://hugo.soucy.cc/note/2018/01/an-introduction-to-the-indieweb.html
# Loqi [superfeedr] "Why the Indie Web movement is so important" on 2018-03-27 https://hugo.soucy.cc/note/2017/07/why-the-indie-web-movement-is-so-important.html
# Loqi [superfeedr] "App.net is another silo who is shutting down" on 2018-03-27 https://hugo.soucy.cc/note/2017/03/appnet-is-another-silo-who-is-shutting-down.html
# Loqi [superfeedr] "À propos de ce site Web" on 2018-03-27 https://hugo.soucy.cc/a-propos.html
# Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb, Make your social media posts open first" on 2018-03-27 https://hugo.soucy.cc/note/2016/11/indieweb-make-your-social-media-posts-open-first.html
# Loqi [superfeedr] "Indieweb in a nutshellown your identity domain website content uiux" on 2018-03-27 https://hugo.soucy.cc/note/2016/05/indieweb-in-a-nutshellown-your-identity-domain-website-content-uiux.html
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# hs0ucy Whoah ... sorry about the noise ... I was testing https://websub.rocks/
# hs0ucy I didn't know the consequences
# Loqi [superfeedr] "love the twitter aggregator!— Zach Leatherman (@zachleat) April 12, 2018 Indieweb and webmentions. Posts originate on my site, then syndicate to Twitter. I’m replying from my site to your tweet now. 🙂" by Michael Bishop on 2018-04-12 https://miklb.com/blog/2018/04/12/3726/
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@miklb ↩️ Indieweb and webmentions. Posts originate on my site, then syndicate to Twitter. I’m replying from my site to your tweet now. 🙂 (twitter.com/_/status/984457842005610506)
# [kevinmarks] hadn't seen this sequence - the iframe share button as "collecting data" https://twitter.com/Matthijs85/status/984458621697314816
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@Matthijs85 Zuckerberg admits he's collecting medical data on people that are on the internet whether they’re Facebook users or not: 'for security purposes’ https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/984118196952322050/video/1 Security? Yeah right, security of his funds.. 😏 (twitter.com/_/status/984458621697314816)
# [kevinmarks] yes, but getting that on the congressional record is useful.
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# @miklb ↩️ I’ve flirted with the idea of getting it working with @eleven_ty using my prior efforts in Jekyll liquid templates. https://github.com/miklb/jekyll-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/984464336637845509)
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# [jeremycherfas] Hello Zegnat
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@swentel So how about we start a Homebrew Website Club meetup in Gent to share ideas, work on projects (#drupal module!) ... every two weeks ? Who would join ? I could do a #indieweb 101 introduction first to get started! See https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club (twitter.com/_/status/984488083436507136)
# Loqi [superfeedr] "“You can use this with Micro.blog, Known or any other Micropub compatible server” This is a perfect way to put it for the average user." by Greg McVerry on 2018-04-12 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/12/you-can-use-this-with-microblog-known-or-any-other
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@kevinmarks And the Web is the sea, the platform they and we all depend on, without thinking about it. #indieweb https://twitter.com/adamsconsulting/status/984483896686329856 (twitter.com/_/status/984495879397797889)
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[cleverdevil] Hullo, IndieWeb! I've been traveling and quite busy this week. Hope I haven't missed too much 🙂
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# [cleverdevil] Yeah, I saw that. I wonder if [manton] made it support Micropub for publishing as well?
# [cleverdevil] Nice!
# [cleverdevil] I can't wait to try it.
# [cleverdevil] I've been tinkering with the idea of a microcast for a long time. I was considering getting a separate domain for it, though, so I could conceivably use Micro.blog for that.
# [cleverdevil] (Might actually be a smarter way to go, honestly).
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# [cleverdevil] No worries, I wouldn't have expected to support that at 1.0, honestly 🙂
# [cleverdevil] Cool. I think I will instead buy a separate domain and use that for just my Microcast.
# [cleverdevil] Then use Micro.blog for it.
# [cleverdevil] I think its good to have it separate from my site.
# [kevinmarks] I think known puts the podcast incantations into its feed if there is audio.
# [cleverdevil] Known definitely has rudimentary support, but I am almost positive its not been tested much in the wild 🙂
# [cleverdevil] Yeah, that's a good point, [eddie].
# [cleverdevil] I have been noodling with the idea of creating a podcast at work for talking about Cloud / AWS / GCP / Azure.
# [kevinmarks] Hmm. I thought that would be just the audio posts.
# [cleverdevil] I think my personal one may focus on open source stuff that I am doing, etc.
# [kevinmarks] It changed to audio from streamingmedia
# [kevinmarks] So [manton] you could try it on known.
# [kevinmarks] I remember Ben grumbling about all the arbitrary properties at the time.
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KartikPrabhu ha! Apple's gonna Apple
# [kevinmarks] Tantek and I went to explain that to them in 2004
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gRegorLove One of my itches is an h-feet to iTunes-valid RSS feed.
# gRegorLove *h-feed
# KartikPrabhu h-feet lol!
# gRegorLove :)
# [kevinmarks] I have about half of that in unmung, but it is a bit of a hack
# gRegorLove What is Wavelength?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Wavelength" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Wavelength is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# [kevinmarks] Apple engineers: "why are all these people so angry about RSS? It's xml, so we added our own extensions"
# KartikPrabhu wavelength is a property of waves characterised by the distance between consequent crests or throughs
# KartikPrabhu ;)
# [kevinmarks] Me and Tantek look at each other.
# KartikPrabhu [kevinmarks]: that is a valid argument from the XML point of view
# KartikPrabhu phew phew
# [cleverdevil] Okay, inspired by [manton], I have just purchased cleverca.st
# [cleverdevil] Now I have no choice!
# [cleverdevil] 11 bucks on promo
# [cleverdevil] Haha
# benharri itsreallynot.com
# [kevinmarks] Have you seen tryca.st
# [cleverdevil] [manton] should I create a totally separate Micro.blog account for this, or can I have one account manage both my hosted Microcast and my externally hosted site?
# [cleverdevil] The only thing I dislike about the .today extension is the pressure of having it be published daily 😄
# [cleverdevil] Hmm....
# [cleverdevil] I think I don't want a separate username. I definitely don't want to deal with the trouble of logging in and out.
# benharri quick poll: how many domains do you own?
# [kevinmarks] Too many
# benharri same
# benharri at least 15?
# [kevinmarks] ~70
# [cleverdevil] I think around 15-20?
# [cleverdevil] My favorites are handsome.af and 🐷.ws
# [kevinmarks] I should at least make mormonbartender.club redirect somewhere
# KartikPrabhu lol
# KartikPrabhu ok off to #chat
# [kevinmarks] And sell some subdomains on mixes.house
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aaronpk we should host a virtual domain swap soon maybe https://domainswap.xyz
# benharri handsome.af is awesome
# benharri i rly like itsreallynot.com and nothavingthis.com
# benharri emoji domains are hard to type on a lot of machines still:(
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@kellan OH: "Regulations requiring pasteurization are based on a poor understanding of cheese science. I'm concerned we're about to pasteurize social networks." (twitter.com/_/status/984511351497412609)
# [kevinmarks] I have decentralised.wtf too
# benharri tilde.team is still one of my favs
# benharri what's the client at chat.indieweb.org?
# benharri ahhh ok, just a log of the chat? source of truth is irc tho, right?
# benharri Ok, makes sense
# benharri thanks!
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@henryfarrell 1. People who are focusing on Mark Zuckerberg's testimony to Congress are missing the point. What happens to Facebook in Europe is far more important - and the stakes just got far, far higher this morning thanks to a legal decision in Ireland. (twitter.com/_/status/984459045313634305)
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@developerjack @attacus_au You're way too kind. I add custom utm's that mess with tracking instead. 😂 (twitter.com/_/status/984053237769621504)
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# [cleverdevil] Sweet, got my microcast site set up. Micro.blog makes this so much easier,
# [cleverdevil] [manton]++ for making IndieWeb accessible!
# [cleverdevil] Now, I just need to wait for DNS to propagate for cleverca.st so I can map it.
# benharri [cleverdevil]: what do you use for your ttl?
# [cleverdevil] Well, it has propagated already to all of the DNS servers I use, but I checked too quickly on Micro.blog, and now its not letting me do the mapping. Probably has it cached.
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Information literacy needs to include creation and ownership." by Kimberly Hirsh on 2018-04-12 http://kimberlyhirsh.com/information-literacy-needs-to-include-creation-and-ownership/
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@jgarber ↩️ @zachleat I use IndieAuth to log in to my website using… my website! https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth (twitter.com/_/status/984537014539309056)
# @jgarber ↩️ @zachleat There’s a step-by-step guide of the flow here: https://indieweb.org/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain
(linked to from the excellent https://indiewebify.me) (twitter.com/_/status/984537512680017922)
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# [cleverdevil] Sweet, cleverca.st resolves now. I should be able to post my first microcast tomorrow 😀
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@mlncn Because of US gov't spying, Facebook's data centralization violates European privacy laws. If they'd used their vast resources to work on federation, they'd have no problem. https://indieweb.org/ https://gnu.io/social/ https://joinmastodon.org/ https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#abstract all did! (twitter.com/_/status/984572279035170816)
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