#indieweb 2018-04-20

2018-04-20 UTC
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@GauthRaj ↩️ I am good Greg. Just moved into a new city. Wow.. Indieweb looks highly relevant to what I call as self empowered Internet users. Would love to contribute any suggestion to get started? (twitter.com/_/status/987149305155760128)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-04-20.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@unoabraham A Storyblog for You and Your Loved Ones, IndieWeb Style https://abraham.uno/1182/a-storyblog-for-you-and-your-loved-ones-indieweb-style/ (twitter.com/_/status/987243701033369600)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ What city?The first thing you do is focus on your own house and then start to help building the village. So for example instead of just having a @medium blog create your own website and then syndicate to other folks. In the #indieweb model… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/20/gauthraj-what-citythe-first-thing-you-do-is-focus-on (twitter.com/_/status/987276061946687488)
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jmac Am I correct that Bridgy would not pick up on a tweeted @-reply that does not directly contain a Webmention-enabled URL (even if the tweet it replies to does)?
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snarfed jmac: no. backfeeding replies is maybe the single key reason bridgy exists :P
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snarfed https://brid.gy/about#which
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jmac snarfed: I am relieved to hear that!
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snarfed curious what made you think bridgy didn't do that...?
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jmac As of this morning my in-production blog is dogfoodin the experimental webmention-receiving branch of my own blog software, e.g. http://fogknife.com/2018-03-14-how-i-use-omnifocus-ten-years-on.html#webmentions
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jmac It leans heavily on Bridgy (those facepiles are 100% Twitter) and picks up on likes, reposts, quotations, and mentions great. It's whiffing on replies. That's almost certainly on me.
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jmac For a moment I was wondering if I assumed too much about Bridgy but I'm glad to see it's happily just more for me to learn!
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jmac Also, Bridgy rocks, and my next post is gonna be about it and the rest of my exploratory IndieWeb adventures of the last two months.
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snarfed thanks jmac!
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jmac (I recognize I have to add some mf2 tags to my blog first, lest I show up to the party underdressed)
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jmac snarfed: Well, I may be stuck on this example though: https://twitter.com/JmacDotOrg/status/942212007691943936 That's a tweet linking to an webmention-enabled URL, but when i feed it to bridgy it just doesn't seem to react to its replies at all.
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@JmacDotOrg New blog post with my thoughts on freelance billing styles, and the Mac app called Timing. (7 minute read) http://fogknife.com/2017-12-16-on-time-and-materials-and-timing.html (twitter.com/_/status/942212007691943936)
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snarfed jmac: sorry for the trouble! yup, i see it. i'll look soon.
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jmac OK, thanks!
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GWG https://arstechnica.com/?p=1296577
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GWG Okay, so much for GPDR everywhere
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sknebel heh. to be fair, reducing the legal attack surface is kinda understandable, even if they intend to treat everyone the same
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dgold anyone who still has a facebook account needs to see a doctor
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singpolyma dgold: has something changed?
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dgold singpolyma: Zuck goes to the hill, says "we want GDPR everywhere"
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dgold then his actual company moves everyone outside the eu out from under the protections offered by GDPR
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singpolyma sounds like business as usual for them
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dgold if he was remotely sincere, then this change wasn't necessary
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dgold he's a liar, his company is an extremist propaganda platform, and he should be prosecuted as such
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singpolyma Right, but he's the CEO of a large public company. So, automatically not sincere
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dgold anyway, this is OT
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snarfed jmac: re that missing bridgy reply, looks like it's due to https://brid.gy/about#best+effort
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snarfed (the twitter search API we use to get replies is unreliable for anything over a week old, and that tweet and reply are from dec 2017)
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jmac That’s fair. I didn’t know about that, but it’s certainly in character for Twitter. Thank you for checking!
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singpolyma snarfed: hmm. If I know of a Tweet that replies to me, how hard would it be to have brid.gy manually gin up the page for that so I can webmention myself? Similar to the manual publish form, I suppose
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snarfed singpolyma: very doable! https://brid.gy/about#source-urls
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singpolyma oh, nice
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singpolyma should RTFM
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snarfed so in this case for jmac, he could manually send a wm from https://brid.gy/comment/twitter/JmacDotOrg/942212007691943936/942222641506717697
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Loqi [Liza Daly] I almost never accepted fixed-bid for software projects (great for seminars or research papers though). Hourly has overhead but everyone’s goals are aligned—I want fewer changing requirements, they want lower cost. Retainer’s great if you can ...
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@mathiasmaelleb Publish on Your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere https://indieweb.org/POSSE #Publish #YourOwnSite #SyndicateElsewhere (twitter.com/_/status/987404875402235904)
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jmac Cool
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@aaronpk An IndieWeb reader: My new home on the internet https://www.godaddy.com/garage/an-indieweb-reader-my-new-home-on-the-internet/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/987417368421842944)
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@sdepolo People have the power to take our attention back from social networks. Alternatives to #deleteFacebook are emerging... @aaronpk built his own #IndieWeb reader so he, not some algorithm, decides what content to read. http://bit.ly/2HPeqyA (twitter.com/_/status/987418883983269888)
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@belong_io An IndieWeb reader: My new home on the internet - The Garage https://ift.tt/2vswvA4 (twitter.com/_/status/987423341836406784)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-04-20.html
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tantek good afternoon #indieweb
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freescholar tantek: Hi!
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bear oh my - Flckr has been bought -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/04/20/smugmug-buys-flickr-verizon-oath/537377002/
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aaronpk oboy
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snarfed "MacAskill [CEO] says he does not yet know what his plans are for Flickr’s business."
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aaronpk I have a friend at smugmug, he's been to a couple HWCs
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snarfed that's...an odd thing to say, at best, as the CEO of the acquirer
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aaronpk I told him i'm holding him personally responsible if anything happens to flickr
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-04-20.html
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GWG aaronpk, what if it merged with Smugmug?
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aaronpk I don't know enough about what smugmug does to know if that's a good idea or not
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[asuh] Smugmug has a great reputation with professional photographers so that’s positive news IMO
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-04-20.html https://t.co/tKBIY1ouds (twitter.com/_/status/987454637551702017)
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tantek I think Flickr has better chances with SmugMug than Verizon / Oath
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GWG I use Smugmug
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tantek what is Smugmug
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Loqi SmugMug is a paid service photo hosting silo https://indieweb.org/SmugMug
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GWG They are a good platform for enthusiasts
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GWG But focus more professionally than I do
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tantek GWG, could you note some of that in /SmugMug?
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tantek the real question is what else is Oath looking to get rid of / close?
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tantek like what's the fate of Tumblr?
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tantek this is good quote from the SmugMug CEO: “Flickr has survived through thick-and-thin and is core to the entire fabric of the Internet.”
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tantek SmugMug << 2018-04-20 USA Today: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/04/20/smugmug-buys-flickr-verizon-oath/537377002/ Exclusive: Flickr bought by SmugMug, which vows to revitalize the photo service]
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Loqi ok, I added "2018-04-20 USA Today: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/04/20/smugmug-buys-flickr-verizon-oath/537377002/ Exclusive: Flickr bought by SmugMug, which vows to revitalize the photo service]" to the "See Also" section of /SmugMug https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=47074&oldid=47073
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tantek Flickr << 2018-04-20 USA Today: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/04/20/smugmug-buys-flickr-verizon-oath/537377002/ Exclusive: Flickr bought by SmugMug, which vows to revitalize the photo service]
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Loqi ok, I added "2018-04-20 USA Today: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/04/20/smugmug-buys-flickr-verizon-oath/537377002/ Exclusive: Flickr bought by SmugMug, which vows to revitalize the photo service]" to the "See Also" section of /Flickr https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=47075&oldid=40175
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GWG Smugmug is known for rescuing dead/dying photo sites
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GWG Usually migrating people to their system, but..
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brehaut_ morning everyone
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "An IndieWeb reader: My new home on the internet" https://www.godaddy.com/garage/an-indieweb-reader-my-new-home-on-the-internet/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2018/04/20/29/)