#indieweb 2018-05-09
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@jackyalcine I'd love for the #IndieWeb to support something like voting poll support. It'd be an extension of #WebMention but man! (twitter.com/_/status/994043534025019393)
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@wilkieii ↩️ in a sense, the indieweb-adjacent experiments with "reactji" kinda show you can do this (presumably with webmention as a pingback) (twitter.com/_/status/994044463268925440)
# @jackyalcine ↩️ @wilkieii Hm, each reactji being a different value in said poll. Interesting. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/994045132432273408)
# @jackyalcine ↩️ @wilkieii (I use the hashtag so it shows up in the indieweb chat) (twitter.com/_/status/994045178024345600)
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Loqi reacji is an emoji reaction, the use of a single emoji character in response to a post, introduced as a feature by Slack[1] https://indieweb.org/reactji
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@EddieHinkle ↩️ Something like this is possible even without webmention specific support. Essentially it could be done using microformats2 similar to how Events and RSVPs work over webmention. https://indieweb.org/rsvp (https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/05/09/1/reply/) (twitter.com/_/status/994070310763757580)
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gRegorLove what is poll?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "poll" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "poll is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# gRegorLove What is Twitter poll?
# Loqi Twitter poll is a new Twitter feature that has been pre-announced https://blog.twitter.com/2015/introducing-twitter-polls that will supposedly support poll posts with only two possible answers, and 24 hours to answer https://indieweb.org/Twitter_poll
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Pulling My Thangs In Haus" https://jacky.wtf/weblog/pulling-thangs-in-haus/
# gRegorLove jacky, I really like your site design
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
# jeremycherfas I did! Last night in a mammoth long-distance debug using Omnibear locally, I was wondering about using shpub instead. But when I tried, it just seemed to hang with a > in terminal.
# jeremycherfas In any case, we made some progress with Omnibear, so I think I will stick with that, for now.
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@EwoutWolff @ncilla hi, ben benieuwd hoe je het internet ziet ná Analytica.
Indieweb, blockchain, federated web, etc staan nog in kinder schoenen. Benieuwd welke je kans ziet maken. Lijkt mij boeiend. (twitter.com/_/status/994110695619944449)
# jeremycherfas Thanks. So hard to see these things sometimes.
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@mxstbr ↩️ @jackyalcine "jackyalciné's like 75% in the IndieWeb" (twitter.com/_/status/994118137619632128)
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tomasparks i'm updating my h-card, how do I use the p-category tag, is it like twitter hashtags on you profile page?
# tomasparks tanks, p-note is that were you do a short bio?
# tomasparks *thanks*
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# @mxstbr ↩️ Been wanting to go full indieweb for so long, still haven't taken the time to dig in... Should really do that! How long have you been tackling it? (twitter.com/_/status/994126954948452352)
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# @jackyalcine ↩️ I've been on-and-off for the last year; but I've buckled down over the last few months. They have a Wiki with lots of info and a few sites to help navigate people!
https://indieweb.org
https://indiewebify.me/ (twitter.com/_/status/994127499285094400)
# @jackyalcine ↩️ lol! hopefully you won't have to - a lot of work is in the works to get people going.
you could even start with playing around with tools like https://micro.blog/ to see what ideas in terms of federated services people have for the IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/994128191961776128)
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Zegnat Interesting way for a hosting company to get more user guides for setting up things, crowd-source the guys from the community on GitHub: https://lab.uberspace.de/en/index.html
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# tomasparks Zegnat+++
# tomasparks i got few thing to do before i start doing my hcard
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ If you are of the WordPress ilk we are recruiting folks for #indieweb onboarding studies.
Basically you think aloud as you try to set everything up. (twitter.com/_/status/994192349667340289)
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[jgmac1106] Morning all. Slow start to the day. Up with client work all night. Need to figure out how my surge pricing works
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@calum_ryan ↩️ Likewise would be great to have your input on this on IndieWeb slack/irc.
A couple of people joined in interested in knowing more about the features available for sending/receiving Webmentions on static sites. Noted jekyll-webmention_io by @AaronGustafson as one option for Jekyll (twitter.com/_/status/994193666737627136)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ based on your Twitter stream you are well on to your way to building a strong network.
Do you have a site of your own yet? If not I can help.
If you do we can work together to make sure it's connected to #indieweb.
It is a community that shares your vision (twitter.com/_/status/994194296982065152)
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@frankmeeuwsen Webmentions blijven tovenarij voor me. @tonzylstra reageert op http://micro.blog op mijn post. Ik reageer daar op zijn verhaal en beiden staan onder de post.
Als dit kan met sociale netwerken... Crossplatform reageren....
http://diggingthedigital.com//GDPR-en-het-Indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/994198952152006656)
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# @jgmac1106 @DanAgins @judyarzt @sedson @jluss got first #EdCampCT email of season. Getting super excited.
Over in the #indieweb corner of our world we are trying to do outreach with different #edcamp organizers to see if we can work together.
Want to indiewebify https://edcampct.org/? (twitter.com/_/status/994212484566339585)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ I know you each have a WordPress blog as well. I am recruiting folks for user onboarding studies of people as they connect their WordPress blogs to the #indieweb community.
Would love to have you participate. Learn… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/09/danagins-judyarzt-sedson-jluss-i-know-you-each-have-a (twitter.com/_/status/994214349676859392)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ #EdCampCT & #Indieweb makes sense. Time for movement to evolve & connect with other #edcamp across the nation using ethical tech on networks that reflect our values as open educators.
Values of owning your data, a domain of your own, and community should flow through #edcampct (twitter.com/_/status/994215448685105152)
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mlncn Here's another one for the don't ever trust corporate silos annals: https://mobile.twitter.com/Fara1/status/993844676774985728
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@Fara1 I was too busy to deal with this yesterday, but am sad and pretty much perplexed to report that @Medium curiously and without notice cancelled all of the @BINJreports memberships (http://binjonline.org). This is money we rely on for reporting. #media #journalism (twitter.com/_/status/993844676774985728)
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@martijnvdven ↩️ Om Webmentions uit de tovenarij sfeer te trekken (we willen tenslotte dat iedereen het gaat gebruiken!) zijn een aantal mensen de afgelopen week druk bezig geweest met een FAQ: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-faq#FAQ
Maar misschien moeten we opzoek naar betere informatiekanalen? (twitter.com/_/status/994217950629519361)
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@philhawksworth ↩️ Happy to join the IndieWeb slack if invited. Also curious about the latest in webmentions for SSGs. Do you have an example of that I can noodle around with @AaronGustafson? (twitter.com/_/status/994231216600768512)
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# @martijnvdven ↩️ We’d be happy to have you! Ways to reach our chat are on this page, including a link that’ll sign you up for Slack: https://indieweb.org/discuss#Join_Discussions (twitter.com/_/status/994234817368739840)
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# [philhawksworth] Ha ha! I just came on in and started to make myself at home!
# [philhawksworth] I also suspected that perhaps this community might be more active on irc than slack, but have to admit that these days I'm more likely to have a slack client open
# [philhawksworth] thanks!
# [philhawksworth] aha
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# [philhawksworth] Thanks! And that's lovely to hear. I wondered how it might sit with people as apposed to self hosting on self managed infrastructure!
# Loqi Netlify is a CDN/static hosting provider with integrated build service, useful for static site generators https://indieweb.org/Netlify
# [philhawksworth] oh nice!
# [philhawksworth] I see some places I could add to that wiki page now... 🙂
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# Zegnat By all means! And if you are on the wiki anyway, maybe add yourself to https://indieweb.org/irc-people so you can show up with a nice little avatar in the chat logs (https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-05-09#bottom)
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kaushalmodi Welcome [philhawksworth] :) I am one of the Netlify + Hugo users around here.
# @frankmeeuwsen ↩️ Er zijn al meer geluiden over een non-profit die de kar zou kunnen trekken wat betreft Indieweb en het uit de developershoek kan halen. Er is nog wel een slag te slaan ja. (twitter.com/_/status/994253591706849280)
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# snarfed recording of google's "Web state of the union" talk from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-mdLMDtbs
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Fragmentions for Better Highlighting and Direct References on the Web" https://boffosocko.com/2018/01/23/fragmentions-for-better-highlighting-and-direct-references-the-web/
# klandwehr[m] Hi all
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# [jgmac1106] had a question from a friend on Twitter. Anyone know about setting h-cards and h-entry on Weebly? I found this: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-supporting-user-profiles with a Weebly site
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Weebly" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "Weebly is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# klandwehr[m] Weebly is a website building site
# gRegorLove [jgmac1106], guessing, but it was probably manual HTML inserted in the page, not a widget
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# [shurcool] Hi. Something I wanted to ask about... how common is it for indieweb people to host/own their contacts (aka address book)? Instead of using something like Google Contacts (https://contacts.google.com/) or iCloud Contacts, etc.
# [shurcool] (I'm starting to read https://indieweb.org/contacts now 😄 )
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[kevinmarks] There is a maintenance tax on those
# [shurcool] I know that iOS and macOS support syncing contacts via WebDAV or so (I forget the exact API... oh, maybe it was CardDAV)
# [shurcool] so if your own contacts host supports that protocol, you can use iOS/macOS pretty seamlessly.
# [shurcool] kevin: there's a maintenance burden on doing anything yourself, of course 🙂
# [shurcool] but there are benefits too... and it can feel quite cool
# [shurcool] did you have some specific downsides in mind?
# [shurcool] I know contacts are usually quite closely tied to email, so if say you're using gmail and not keeping your contacts there, it will be pretty annoying having to copy/paste email addresses from your own place
# [shurcool] (so it might be hard to stop using google contacts without also dropping gmail)
# [kevinmarks] I'm partly feeling guilty about how dated my blog rolls are compared to my silo follow lists
# [shurcool] yeah
# [kevinmarks] And also aware of how hard contact sync is
# [shurcool] at least there's a well defined protocol for it (WebDAV/CardDAV)... I'm starting to fear it'll go away if not enough people use it and get replaced by proprietary corp protocols, which would be bad
# [kevinmarks] As they have different contexts - you sometimes want recent connections, sometimes a particular mode
# [kevinmarks] Except CardDAV is crud - it doesn't work well with merging
# [kevinmarks] Did I tell you the iPhone/Google contacts story?
# [shurcool] I know there are some Go implementations of those protocols too (e.g. https://godoc.org/golang.org/x/net/webdav, https://godoc.org/github.com/emersion/go-webdav/carddav), but I haven't looked very closely yet.
# [kevinmarks] The contacts team at Google implemented CardDAV on top of the internal database
# [shurcool] so what you guys are telling me is that... contacts is an indieweb challenge that hasn't been really cracked yet 😉
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# [kevinmarks] This was used to connect to iPhone by apple (this was ~11 years ago when they were cooperating more)
# [kevinmarks] Except Google contacts has all the emails of anyone you'd ever contacted in, and iPhone users were trying to text people
# [shurcool] well, it relates to my identity. and if I had my own contacts, i'd probably have a UI to view/manage it on my personal site (only accessible to me)
# [kevinmarks] So a lot of iPhone users cleaned up their address books
# [kevinmarks] And email autocomplete stopped working for them in Gmail, because Google honours the Delete part of CRUD
# [shurcool] kevin: heh, sounds like things were working as intended, but people weren't educated on how to actually make use of the system... so it it was a poor user experience.
# [kevinmarks] When twitter suspended me last week I realised how much of my contact model is based on twitter
# [kevinmarks] It's also that CRUD is not a good fit for how people use these stores.
# [shurcool] it reminds me of that time iOS added Facebook integration (around iOS 4 or so), and it added all the facebook contacts (imagine people with 500 fb friends... all suddenly in their phone's contacts). there were tweets like "there are DOGS on my phone now. I mean literal dogs"
# [shurcool] (cuz they had facebook accounts of people's dogs as friends)
# [kevinmarks] I think apple switched to showing people with phone numbers when you make a call, etc.
# [kevinmarks] Yes, same issue.
# [shurcool] yeah, that makes sense
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# [kevinmarks] Every time I go to call Jolsha (my local Indian restaurant), Google auto-suggests Jolie O'Dell's number, and I really don't want to phone her by accident and ask for curry.
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# [shurcool] I feel like indieweb could be a perfect hobby for those people who manage to get financial independence early on. there's so much interesting stuff to do, but it needs a lot of time. doing it part-time limits what you can get done.
# [shurcool] for programming* people hehe
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# [jgmac1106] [shurcool] but a lot of folks trying to break into junior roles often find an extensive open source contribution provides them with a GitHub profile that goes beyond their code camp or CS program
# [jgmac1106] and I think I still have 5,6789 contacts in Android because I never realy figured out how to disconnect gmail contacts
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# Zegnat I was just looking at https://www.monicahq.com/ today and give that a try for contacts. They are also working on CardDAV support. I wonder if the CRM model for private contacts is any good.
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@Konzertheld So, I didn't even fully implement #Indieweb features but will now remove them. And I thought I was going to get around the #GDPR... (twitter.com/_/status/994286639215206400)
# [kevinmarks] Wherever browsers fit
# Zegnat I have so far seen very little discussion of the other grounds outside of consent (https://indieweb.org/GDPR#Legal_grounds_for_processing), but they are all real.
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@fhemberger @aaronpk Do you have any status on http://webmention.io regarding #GDPR regulations? Do I need a data processing contract or something like that? (twitter.com/_/status/994191291587153920)
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KartikPrabhu ha!
# KartikPrabhu aaronpk: quick ref: https://brid.gy/about#gdpr
# [jgmac1106] back to the what the heck are fragmentions, still say annotations or simply quote is correct word, I really want em.
# KartikPrabhu tantek: yes. because there is the whole RDF-based annotations too
# KartikPrabhu fragmentions are not primarily used for anontations/marginalia (only a few/two sites do that)
# KartikPrabhu to link to a particular phrase
# KartikPrabhu which is very distinct from marginalia/annotation comments
# KartikPrabhu no, you don't need to cite it in some post of your own
# KartikPrabhu "link to a particular quote" maybe
# KartikPrabhu just like when you use URLs people would say "linked to a website" not "cited a website"
# KartikPrabhu anyway, I'm not attached to what "popular" name is given
# KartikPrabhu tantek: the current implementation of fragmention.js is paragraph (block element) level yes. But [kevinmarks]' fragmention concept is not
# [jgmac1106] @kartikPrahbu but I love seeing how other people mark up a same page I am reading. I know that isn't the exact fragmentions use case we are discussing (I think) but it's nice
# KartikPrabhu [jgmac1106]: I don't know what that has to do with fragmentions
# [jgmac1106] What I told my Weebly friends: @jluss It really boils down to adding a bit of mark up to your profile page. There are Weebly examples on here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-supporting-user-profiles
# KartikPrabhu fragmentions has nothing to do with markup on your page
# [jgmac1106] @kartikPrabhu call back to conversation yesterday about open annotation and how the standard died off
# [jgmac1106] I don't mean my page I mean other people's pages
# KartikPrabhu people don't markup other people's pages!
# [jgmac1106] not died off, sorry wasn't adopted
# [jgmac1106] sorry, its my elementary teacher mixing in with web stuff.
# [jgmac1106] We call writing all over books marking up text
# KartikPrabhu people can comment on some particular piece i.e. annotations/marginalia using fragmentions
# [jgmac1106] then as kids get older we say annotations
# KartikPrabhu but that is not what fragmentions are currently used for the most
# KartikPrabhu there are afaik only two indiewebsites using fragmentions for annotations
# KartikPrabhu me and joskar
# [jgmac1106] I am more worried about how I could use it rather than how they are used
# KartikPrabhu you use it to link to some phrase like this https://kartikprabhu.com/about#mathematical%20properties%20of%20black%20holes
# [jgmac1106] like could a proxy be written that would show all the fragmentions on a page from a bunch of different users? I have no idea but that would be neat
# KartikPrabhu sknebel: display recieved ones as annotations. I also post them
# KartikPrabhu sknebel: I think quite a few people posted fragmentioned-replies to test my marginalia article, but it died out after that
# KartikPrabhu [jgmac1106]: with a proxy like that you seem to be asking for a silo :P
# KartikPrabhu what is hypothesis
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "hypothesis" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hypothesis is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# KartikPrabhu what is hypothes.is
# Loqi Hypothes.is is a centralized service and open-source project for annotation and highlights on the web https://indieweb.org/Hypothes.is
# KartikPrabhu there ^
# KartikPrabhu it is like "disqus for annotations"
# KartikPrabhu hypothesis is /hypothes.is
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# KartikPrabhu yeah fixing
# [jgmac1106] yes this is where the conversation started. I keep hypothes.is on all my blogs: http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/content/all/ nobody uses it, but the overlap annotations fragmentions was where convo got going
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@m_ott Back on my way home after yet another amazing time in Düsseldorf at the @IndieWebCamp, @btconf, and @wwnrw. Thank you all so much for all those great conversations – and the friendship. 🤗 Hope to see you all very soon! 👋 (twitter.com/_/status/994294751871586305)
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# KartikPrabhu tantek: yes. which is what prompted me to create fragmentioner
# [jgmac1106] what is this fragmentioner you speak of
# KartikPrabhu another one could be /readers building in fragmentioned replies
# KartikPrabhu what is fragmentioner
# Loqi fragmentioner is a Javascript utility by Kartik Prabhu which gives a pop-up link with the fragmention URL to a piece of selected text https://indieweb.org/fragmentioner
# [jgmac1106] @kartikPrabhu and a reader with fragmentions is what I was talking about I can subscribe to each perspn hypothes.is feed through rss but if I could pull in all the quotes my students highlighted in a reader it would be neat
# KartikPrabhu i don't understand. that sounds like silos on top of silos
# [jgmac1106] [tantek] forgot I could ask Loqi was asking you folks
# KartikPrabhu and more work for aaronpk
# [kevinmarks] Will loqi start saying "umm" like the Google voice robot?
# KartikPrabhu haha!
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@andrewsreading ✌ @Reading "The Indieweb privacy challenge (Webmentions, silo backfeeds, and the GDPR) // Sebastian Greger" http://ing.am/p/4YuK (twitter.com/_/status/994296474904289281)
# [jgmac1106] funny watchign everyone freak that voice is starting to sound more like a voice
# KartikPrabhu it should be freaked about
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "uncanny valley" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "uncanny valley is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [kevinmarks] That wavenet stuff is very impressive
# [jgmac1106] lew my mind
# [kevinmarks] Must resist snark.
# KartikPrabhu maybe Loqi can call you on the phone to answer "what is" questions
# [jgmac1106] Sebastian's piece still getting much play. I thought Loqi was now sending out a specific tweet to point to more information whenever the feed picks it up
# [kevinmarks] Well, exactly. Google engineers think like that, not like the people that their robots will be phoning and distracting from their real jobs
# KartikPrabhu yup ^
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chrisaldrich I've asked my Amazon Alexa, "Loqi, what is ____?" in the past by accident...
# [kevinmarks] The uncanny valley is between Cupertino, Mountain View and Menlo Park; it is where product designs that only help very privileged employees of big companies come from.
# KartikPrabhu lol!
# KartikPrabhu wtf
# [jgmac1106] Luckily some other team is helping to fight spam calls. My Google Voice accoutn sequesters many
# [kevinmarks] I didn't resist the snark.
# [jgmac1106] awesome [kevinmarks]
# gRegorLove hahah
# [jgmac1106] and I am done, today was the last day for drop in help in my #edu106 class where folks build their first webpage and start up their blogs (wordpress.com) Miller Time
# frankmeeuwsen I finally made my userpage on the Indieweb wiki. A first step in a more active involvement in what's happening here. I hope. Still a Padawan.
# [kevinmarks] Great, Frank
# KartikPrabhu frankmeeuwsen: welcome
# chrisaldrich frankmeeuwsen++
# gRegorLove Welcome, frankmeeuwsen!
# gRegorLove What's the next thing you'd like to do with your personal site?
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# frankmeeuwsen gRegorLove I'm still dabbling with webmentions and try to understand how it works, both sending and receiving/displaying
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# gRegorLove Nice. Let us know if you have any questions or need someone to send you a test webmention.
# frankmeeuwsen Well... one of the questions I have, how can I delete a webmention on my site? For instance, the last webmentions on http://diggingthedigital.com/fietsenstalling/ are from a test. I want to delete them but where and how do I do that?
# frankmeeuwsen Good bot
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# gRegorLove What is webmention.herokuapp.com?
# Loqi webmention.herokuapp.com is Pelle Wessman's Webmention endpoint as a service, for both receiving and displaying (via JS embed) webmentions https://indieweb.org/webmention.herokuapp.com
# [kevinmarks] You delete the test webmention and resend it. Which is a bit of a tricky thing to do.
# gRegorLove Looks like you're using webmention.herokuapp.com. That page ^ might have more on deleting
# frankmeeuwsen Well...that's the thing aaronpk. I am not sure. I think they are stored on herokuapp but I have no idea where to look on their service
# gRegorLove May not be supported: https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-webmentions/issues/5
# KartikPrabhu schmarty: that sounds complete opaque
# frankmeeuwsen Thanks gRegorLove. Missed this when I first started with webmentions. This was the first service that "just worked" so I sticked with it. But now it looks like it doesn't fully support various features.
# frankmeeuwsen Is it possible to switch webmention providers/services without loosing historical data?
# gRegorLove frankmeeuwsen: I've never used webmention.herokuapp.com myself, so I'm not sure the state of development. I don't think I've seen the author (voxpelli) around here in a while, but maybe I've just missed them.
# KartikPrabhu frankmeeuwsen: same answer as any other service that is not hosted by you. You'd need import/export capability from both
# frankmeeuwsen schmarty You mean me sending mentions to others, but what about the received mentions?
# Zegnat You can actually resend webmentions you received from others “on their behalf”, frankmeeuwsen. A webmention is just a `source` and a `target` link. So you can recreate the ones they have send you by setting source to their URL, and target to yours, and then sending it to your new webmention endpoint
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Getting More Indie" https://jacky.wtf/weblog/getting-more-indie/
# gRegorLove It might also be possible to extract the webmention data from the webmention.herokuapp.com javascript.
# frankmeeuwsen Yeah I can export all the mentions from wm.herokuapp
# frankmeeuwsen As it turns out most of them are through bridgy
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# frankmeeuwsen schmarty things are starting to make sense now about webmentions.
# frankmeeuwsen Thanks
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# [jgmac1106] committment
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# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] do you have plans for going to the summit in June? https://2018.indieweb.org/
# [jgmac1106] Yes I am going
# [chrisaldrich] I'm starting to think about what kind of edu-related ideas we might discuss....
# [chrisaldrich] and/or build upon...
# [chrisaldrich] I'm also thinking about whose arms I can twist into going as well.
# frankmeeuwsen Yeah thanks Zegnat. Tomorrow I'm busy with my son, we're visiting the Computer Game Museum for a good time together behind some consoles.
# [jgmac1106] I can offer up a room space if my university funds the entire trip, will know in a day or so if you know folks traveling on their own dime with empty pockets
# frankmeeuwsen But I will definitely look into it some more
# [jgmac1106] I reached out edcampdx organizers
# [jgmac1106] and also edcampct
# [jgmac1106] problem is ISTE. Same time. Most folks I want at Summit will be at ISTE
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[kimberlyhirsh] Yup.
# [kimberlyhirsh] (ALA is also the same time, which is where I'll be.)
# [kimberlyhirsh] (Why ALA and ISTE are always opposite each other, I don't know.)
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# frankmeeuwsen tantek Nope, Zwolle, the Netherlands. But just as much fun!
# frankmeeuwsen http://diggingthedigital.com/Bonami/
# frankmeeuwsen tantek you definitely should! Just that feeling of playing the original Pong console with my 5 year old son was just incredible.
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# [jgmac1106] [kimberlyhirsh] My last ALA was Hartford unless ASLA is a different conference
# [jgmac1106] The ncte>Thanksgiving >LRA is my shit show conference season
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# chrisaldrich We'll have to list these as conflicts for next year's IWS, then we can gang up on ALA, ITSE et al with a BoF session.
# [jgmac1106] [kimberlyhirsh] the ALA Facebook group is a network I dearly miss. Wish everyone would just go back to a public listserv
# [jgmac1106] If there is any group to rally to the cause it's librarians
# [jgmac1106] For ever I kept Facebook locked away from professional circles so I could still be an ass but eventually got sucked in, made great connections and then quit again
# [kimberlyhirsh] I was trying to figure out where youth librarians even talk to each other anymore, because the listservs are dead, the division blog post comment sections are dead... I think there must be some corner of Twitter or Tumblr that I'm missing.
# [kimberlyhirsh] Because I'm not seeing great conversations on Fb anymore either.
# [jgmac1106] No it is facebook. 100s to 1000s post a day in the group
# [jgmac1106] It is a shame.
# [kimberlyhirsh] For ALA broadly maybe - not YALSA.
# [kimberlyhirsh] ALA Think Tank yes.
# [jgmac1106] YAlsa Facebook page has had 40 posts today
# Loqi [indienews/nl] New post: "De magie van Webmentions" https://seblog.nl/2018/05/09/5/de-magie-van-webmentions
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# [kimberlyhirsh] Huh. I'm using Fb wrong I guess.
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# [jgmac1106] The tool I am using just gathers interactions could be two posts and 38 likes
# [kimberlyhirsh] Much more likely.
# [kimberlyhirsh] The posts are from YALSA the organization, they get lots of likes, very few comments.
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# danyao [kimberlyhirsh] I recently discovered Library Carpentry where librarians talk to each other about digital skills: http://research-lib.uwc.ac.za/library-capentry
# danyao Not sure if it's the type of conversation you're looking for, but I found it interesting seeing how web tech is used by librarians.
# danyao Ah that's a dated link. This one is more useful: https://librarycarpentry.github.io/
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# chrisaldrich thanks danyao... that's an interesting looking site... and there's an event in my backyard at UCLA at the end of the month!
# danyao np! :-)
# [chrisaldrich] A few more of us and we'll need a chat channel for /Indieweb_for_Education... 😉
# danyao That will make interesting conversations!
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# @frankmeeuwsen ↩️ @johanvoets Dat dacht ik ook de eerste keer. Het zit inderdaad wat slimmer in elkaar dan de pingback. https://indieweb.org/Webmention-faq#Are_Webmentions_like_Pingbacks (twitter.com/_/status/994326391960293377)
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@ChrisAldrich I'd love to invite @judell @dr_jdean @dwhly @xolotl & @hypothes_is to join everyone at @IndieWebSummit in June to discuss open web technology related to webmention, annotation, highlighting, and other #IndieWeb and #edtech topics.
https://boffosocko.com/2018/05/09/annotating-and-indiewebsummit-2018/ (twitter.com/_/status/994327404146405376)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ we can quickly add an hcard to your blog but I would have to poke around to see if I could get h-entry on your posts.
The real first #indieweb step should be getting you onto a domain you own.
Will make a tutorial on adding an h-card to your… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/09/jluss-we-can-quickly-add-an-hcard-to-your-blog (twitter.com/_/status/994328971394215936)
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@xolotl ↩️ @ChrisAldrich @judell @dr_jdean @dwhly @hypothes_is @IndieWebSummit invite accepted ;) (twitter.com/_/status/994334150172725249)
# @xolotl @indiewebcamp I registered and checked the box to contribute, but it thinks I want two tickets and is trying to get me to assign another ticket. (twitter.com/_/status/994335873146671105)
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# gRegorLove Same
# gRegorLove "Support the Indieweb" is treated just like a ticket. I just clicked "later" for assigning the second one
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@Johannes_Ernst Booked. Trip to Portland, Oregon, for #indieweb summit June 26 and 27. (twitter.com/_/status/994344272152354816)
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@aaronpk ↩️ @xolotl @indiewebcamp ah weird, you can just ignore that! Thanks! (twitter.com/_/status/994344587278729216)
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@nebu Five days, 19 talks, six workshops and one large family. Thank you @btconf @indiewebcamp @sipgateDE and @wwnrw I had a blast! (twitter.com/_/status/994345628145680386)
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# @ChrisAldrich ↩️ @xolotl @indiewebcamp And a nice attempt at a well marked up official RSVP on your site no less!
http://xolotl.org/rsvp-indieweb-summit-2018/ (twitter.com/_/status/994353392712642560)
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# [jgmac1106] Think I will travel in Monday and then take red eye home Wednesday night
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mblaney hi indieweb, my new project has progressed enough to share now.... https://indiepay.me/