#indieweb 2018-05-10

2018-05-10 UTC
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[jgmac1106] @gwg I fly bdl to pdx didn't book yet
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Ah, BDL. Fun airport.
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GWG Some of my coworkers went up there a lot
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[jgmac1106] Then they need a new definition of fun.
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[jgmac1106] There was a mean lady at the snack bar once who was entertaining.
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I have some collectible socks from there
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gRegorLove wow, mblaney. Cool!
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mblaney thanks gRegorLove! feel free to tag me in a post if you want to try it out :-)
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gRegorLove "Log in" link still appears underneath the bar at the top when I log in.
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gRegorLove mblaney: done! https://gregorlove.com/2018/05/payment-of-10-made-to/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] Payment of $10 made to Malcolm Blaney Testing indiepay.me
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mblaney woohoo thanks!
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gRegorLove I used the micropub form, but forgot my micropub is under development so the posts aren't public. Probably kept indiepay from tracking it.
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mblaney thanks the log in link was just static content on the page. I just removed it because it's confusing.
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gRegorLove I'll try linking indiepay and re-sending the webmention
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mblaney aah I think your micropub endpoint didn't check for categories? that's where I put the link.
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gRegorLove The person-tag of you came through
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mblaney but I should also be able to add a link to my reply, and indiepay.me will discover your post... will try it out.
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mblaney yup the person-tag was in the content.
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mblaney (will move to #dev if this gets more technical)
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gRegorLove I added the link to indiepay.me and re-sent the wm, now it's showing up on my dashboard. Sweet.
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aaronpk Whoa this looks like fun
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mblaney oooh nice I'm glad that worked!
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@unoabraham Bridgy – IndieWeb https://abraham.link/673/bridgy-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/994399601502445568)
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@jgmac1106 Dissecting a WordPress #IndieWeb Post https://t.co/gGbuDkkiJ3 (twitter.com/_/status/994406870092677121)
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[jgmac1106] @gwg does that mean I have to dress for a sock off?
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I've never worn them
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jacky what is loqi
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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@jademond ↩️ Sehr cool. Ich habe die gleiche konstellation, allerdings ist mein blog nicht privat und ich bin keine kleinunternehmerin. da muss ich wohl nochmal ran. was hast du zu indieweb herausgefunden? (twitter.com/_/status/994440400684376064)
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tomasparks has anybody hosted their website on different networks like zeronet, Ipfs, freenet?
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tomasparks i am think of doing that
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jacky tomasparks: interesting, do tell us how that goes!
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jacky I hear quite a bit about ipfs
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tomasparks I cant use webmentions.io, zeronet has internal comment system, freenet has message boards like system
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat Good morning! Today is a holiday in Sweden, time to do some programming!
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swentel holiday in belgium too
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swentel but I'm working heh :)
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tglobe studying
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@frankmeeuwsen Waarom ik me waarschijnlijk niet zó druk hoef te maken over de GDPR en hoe ik mijn statistieken software heb dichtgetimmerd, data-privacy-technisch. GDPR en het Indieweb (deel 2) https://buff.ly/2KO8tTu (twitter.com/_/status/994483682470744064)
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[kevinmarks] @tomasparks mine is on dat
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jeremycherfas What holiday is it?
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tglobe @jeremycherfas Feast of the Ascension
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jeremycherfas I thought that was on Sunday. Or do they give you an extra day?
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frankmeeuwsen Good morning
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Loqi good morning
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frankmeeuwsen Just a quick coffee and network-check before I finish a paintjob in our house
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tglobe @jeremycherfas some countries don't have the exact day as a holyday but 'moved' it to Sunday (according to Wikipedia) just found out about that though
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tglobe *holiday
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tglobe @frankmeeuwsen hi!
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Zegnat So this thursday is the “exact” day?
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tglobe yes
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Zegnat A lot of Swedes will take an extra-extra day, jeremycherfas. They have a concept of “klämdag” (squeeze day): a work day between 2 free from work days, and will almost always take it off. I basically assume all Swedes to start their weekend today
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Zegnat tglobe, good to know! I only know stuff is closed...
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tglobe In Belgium it's more or less the same, most companies/shops and stuff are closed
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jeremycherfas Good to know tglobe. In Italy the same concept if called a ponte, a bridge between two non-work days. But being Italy, if a holiday is on a Wednesday, they take the whole week off with a ponte at both ends.
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@martinlindner ↩️ Erst einmal ist die #DSGVO eine katastrophale Nachricht für das #Indieweb der unzähligen Liebhaber & Nebenbei-Webseiten, zu denen auch sehr viele Seiten gemeinnütziger Engagierter ohne Web-Expertise zählen (z.B. der Secondhand-Laden der Dorf-Arbeiterwohlfahrt) . (twitter.com/_/status/994506501925560320)
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@martinlindner ↩️ Sehr dialektisch könnte man mutmaßen, dass auf diese Weise die #Indieweb-Seiten der eigentlichen Webkultur wieder sichtbarer werden, was einen Neustart einleiten könnte. (twitter.com/_/status/994508376418680833)
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@Editor_Page Ich habe ein Video zu einer @YouTube-Playlist hinzugefügt: http://youtu.be/se0gKY0Lp-M?a IndieWeb - indieweb building blocks - workshop - (twitter.com/_/status/994510326002417666)
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jgmac1106 mornign all
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sknebel morning!
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@dasnuf Für @heibie und @jademond Punkt 9 "Indieweb" ergänzt: http://dasnuf.de/dsgvo-wordpress/ #DSGVO #nichtsgenauesweißmannicht (twitter.com/_/status/994528437657309184)
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@jkphl After 5 extraordinary, sunny days in Düsseldorf I'm heading back into rain and fog. Thanks @indiewebcamp, thanks @btconf, thanks so many of you — I had a blast! 🌞 (... and miss you already!) (twitter.com/_/status/994532595919720450)
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@gvenk @frankmeeuwsen Ik hoop sowieso niet dat je http://192.168.xxx.xxx ziet in je stats, anders is er toch wel wat mis gegaan ;-) http://diggingthedigital.com/GDPR-en-het-Indieweb-deel-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/994537849805516800)
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@jgmac1106 @protohedgehog Keeping HTML template simple. I am going to add a #microformats2 and other #indieweb support so one day we can all hook into an #OpenScience reader or just connect our #OpenScience feeds to some of the cool readers I know will be emerging soon. (twitter.com/_/status/994551149234503680)
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dgold jeremycherfas: ah, I miss Italy, and mediterranean culture in general
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dgold holiday midweek? that's a week then.
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dgold holiday on a thursday? Long weekend! Take the next monday while you're at it
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jeremycherfas They do say that there's a certain affinity between Italy and Ireland.
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dgold aye. I remember when I was first in .nl, i thought "these people are _lazy_!"
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dgold now... not so much
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Zegnat You thought the Dutch were lazy? :P
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@sl007 ↩️ Und genau darüber haben wir in der #politicalParticipation session beim IndieWebCamp am Wochenende gesprochen. Aber wie ändern wir das ? / @nebu @webgefrickel et. al (twitter.com/_/status/994567946906357760)
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@robrogan ↩️ The suggestions you’re getting are along the lines of chat rooms and social media (closed-communities). I’d recommend taking a look at the IndieWeb movement. Honestly it feels more trouble than it’s worth, but I guess I’m a big enough nerd to keep reading. Links to follow: (twitter.com/_/status/994574966816493568)
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@robrogan ↩️ https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress This one is pretty meaty. There seem to be a lot of mechanism to set you up as independently publishing, but also sharing to other communities. Example community: http://micro.blog This guy is an example of the above: https://phoneboy.com/2018/01/13/a-self-hosted-wordpress-blog-with-micro-blog (twitter.com/_/status/994575996115390464)
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@robrogan ↩️ I have two rough ideas: 1. One site with multiple authors. Except unlike a wordpress or shared blog, maybe using IndieWeb, it can be configured that each person’s OWN blog gets double-published to this central blog. Ergo, collection of people writing. (twitter.com/_/status/994576864051122177)
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klandwehr[m] Morning all
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jgmac1106 sounds like Rob wants a planet. Thos worked so simply well for me
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aaronpk https://stream.indieweb.org
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jgmac1106 yep [aaronpk] exactly whta he wants
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@iamjeffperry ↩️ @robrogan The Indieweb movement is kind of what got me interested in this idea in the first place. I like your idea of automatic publishing. (twitter.com/_/status/994581391303233536)
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jeremycherfas Hi iamjeffperry
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jeremycherfas Ooops, no. That was loqi. He was asking around on MB.
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@iamjeffperry ↩️ There is an awesome Indieweb Slack that helped me out a ton with getting my site set up for microblog. But I eventually just formed over the $5 a month and got a hosted plan (twitter.com/_/status/994582413916495872)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @iamjeffperry @robrogan Rob I think what you want is already possible. @aaronpk shared this with me: https://stream.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/994584782204907520)
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@aaronpk 😂 "For younger viewers, blogs and forums were where we talked on the web before everyone gave up and piled inside a load of walled gardens." https://youtu.be/jC4NNUYIIdM?t=3m4s Also this is a great explanation of the black dot bug and why unicode is hard. <⚫️> #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/994588592109273088)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I think people mentioned the #indieweb Slack channel (really an IRC bridge) not as an exemplar but as an invitation if you want to stop by for help or questions as you build your vision. Though it is a model #OpenSource community. (twitter.com/_/status/994609764825944064)
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jhsheridan Hello indieweb. I've been dabbling with Indieweb for a while, and I've finally dedicated the time to setup my wordpress website. Is this an appropriate place to ask some technical questions mostly regarding a few hold ups I'm having going through indiewebify.me?
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@jgmac1106 @hannahkane Are you going to the #IndieWeb Summit in Portland? (twitter.com/_/status/994610434555629568)
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aaronpk jhsheridan: welcome! for wordpress-specific questions try asking in #indieweb-wordpress so that your questions don't get lost here
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jhsheridan awesome, thankyou
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@sfaze Not sure why it took me so long to stumble across the @IndieWebCamp movement….this is everything I’ve been feeling about the web lately: https://indieweb.org/why (twitter.com/_/status/994619067968446469)
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@sfaze Moved to self-hosted bookmarking in 2009 after getting burned by Ma.gnolia service losing years of my data. Now getting motivated to dust off my personal domain and get my own file/photo sharing site up and running. Thanks https://indieweb.org & https://owncloud.org (twitter.com/_/status/994625474960789504)
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gRegorLove what is Magnolia?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Magnolia" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Magnolia is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove Magnolia was a [[bookmark]] service that shut down in 2010.
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Loqi ok
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skippy pinboard.in, ftw
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KartikPrabhu indieweb, ftw
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skippy bookmarking seems like a good gateway drug for indieweb. lower footprint, less overhead than other content types.
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[kevinmarks] https://medium.com/@jamesturk/reclaiming-time-with-twitter-as-rss-202073a39f0a “if there are other decent RSS readers that can do Twitter integration let me know and I’ll add them here.”
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skippy i would much rather consume twitter via RSS. Are there other viable Twitter-to-RSS readers?
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aaronpk https://granary.io will convert twitter feeds to RSS/Atom/Microformats
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aaronpk I have a bunch of them added to my reader
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snarfed skippy: even better, https://twitter-atom.appspot.com/
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aaronpk "better"
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aaronpk hehe
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snarfed more end user friendly
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aaronpk is it? I like that granary.io doesn't require that the user get twitter developer credentials
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snarfed ...but granary.io's UI is way worse for non technical users who just want an atom feed
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aaronpk oh yeah i guess it takes a few clicks after you authorize twitter
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snarfed also for non technical people it kinda makes no sense. does this do what i want? what are these text boxes? how do i add this thing to a reader?
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snarfed (making a twitter app is hard ish too, granted)
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skippy i'm a little sad that Miniflux 2 only supports PGSQL. Miniflux 1 supported SQLite, which was just fine for the volume of feeds I (used to) consume.
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snarfed oh also newsblur supports twitter natively
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Zegnat I think Feedbin also added Twitter support
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skippy feedbin does list twitter support.
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Zegnat I haven’t tried it, as it would lock me to them if I use such a vendor-specific feature
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skippy yeah, i'm not thrilled with jumping into that situation, either.
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@Editor_Page @SipgateDE #Düsseldorf - Entwickler Workshop @IndieWebCampDE bei @Sipgate http://editor-page.de/de/sipgate-duesseldorf-entwickler-workshop-indieweb-sipgate/ via @editor_page (twitter.com/_/status/994651406064914432)
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@khurtwilliams ↩️ @cirox @gustomela @koolinus Read this https://sebastiangreger.net/2018/05/indieweb-privacy-challenge-webmentions-backfeeds-gdpr/ (twitter.com/_/status/994654991485939712)
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dgold anyone know how I can `cancel` my wm.herokuapp account?
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dgold I have no more need to use it, and I'd like to free up a space
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dgold ah, never mind, found the teensy-weensy [Remove Site] button when logged in
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dgold there - now 3 open slots at voxpelli's service
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@ZoeSchiffer ↩️ @Digidave 🙋What you gain in convenience probably isn't worth what you lose in control. These guys know what's up: https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/994693198982270977)
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