#indieweb 2018-05-11

2018-05-11 UTC
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Either way would love to catch up for or just say hello when I am in Portland. Still you probably know all the cool kids into the Open Web in #pdx you should invite them to #indieweb summit (twitter.com/_/status/994740736993050624)
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jacky do we have a lot of jekyll users for indieweb?
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[chrisaldrich] What is Jekyll?
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Loqi Jekyll is Ruby software that helps you create "Simple, blog-aware, static sites" suitable for static domain hosting https://indieweb.org/Jekyll
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[chrisaldrich] There is a nice list of folks on that page, though I would say it's only a small part of a likely longer list.
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jacky ah thanks for pointing that out
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danyao Is indieweb.org down or is it just me?
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KartikPrabhu danyao: works for me
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danyao Ah works for me now too. ping was timing out for me for ~5 minutes. All good now. :)
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jacky I'm guessing webmention.io is on the same server
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jacky b/c it was down for me too
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-05-11.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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jacky yo so I got a blip in the indienews entry
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jacky Actually I can fix it
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jacky just did
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jacky no more weird entry on indienews :)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "I’m Going to the IndieWeb Summit 2018!" https://jacky.wtf/weblog/going-indieweb-summit-2018/
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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jacky o/
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jacky definitely heading off to bed ;)
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Zegnat Have a good one jacky
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jacky well not yet
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jacky gotta fix this rsvp
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Zegnat Haha
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Zegnat There is always just one final thing to do before bed
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jacky lol indeed
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jacky I don't think it worked b/c I don't see it on the summit page
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jacky but this is the post https://jacky.wtf/weblog/going-indieweb-summit-2018/
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Loqi [https://jacky.wtf/assets/brand/self-07dcd0521ce78c856bfd220f0608afdde5077ba253cb2d0ab49d2eb807f5fefd.jpg Jacky Alciné] I’m Going to the IndieWeb Summit 2018!
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@adventure_ext August 14th Meetup Building The Indieweb - Shared from http://Effaustin.org. [http://effaustin.org/2017/07/august-14th-meetup-building-the-indieweb/] https://t.co/dcNk0FIRST (twitter.com/_/status/994837386730397696)
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mblaney jacky if you log replies when sending webmentions then the summit page will tell you what happened.
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mblaney I'm guessing no in-reply-to markup on the link? (I did that too...)
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mblaney nope sorry I take it back. I just checked and it looks fine, only thing is rsvp value needs to be "yes".
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Zegnat !mf2 https://jacky.wtf/weblog/going-indieweb-summit-2018/
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Kaja___ https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjacky.wtf%2Fweblog%2Fgoing-indieweb-summit-2018%2F
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Loqi [https://jacky.wtf/assets/brand/self-07dcd0521ce78c856bfd220f0608afdde5077ba253cb2d0ab49d2eb807f5fefd.jpg Jacky Alciné] I’m Going to the IndieWeb Summit 2018!
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Loqi [Jacky Alciné] I’m Going to the IndieWeb Summit 2018!
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Zegnat Yep, what mblaney said. The website doesn't know what to do with the current rsvp value of the post
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[tantek] !rt https://mobile.twitter.com/_/status/994693198982270977
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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mblaney !rt https://mobile.twitter.com/_/status/994693198982270977
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@ZoeSchiffer @Digidave 🙋What you gain in convenience probably isn't worth what you lose in control. These guys know what's up: https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/994693198982270977)
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mblaney !rt https://mobile.twitter.com/_/status/994693198982270977
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Loqi Thanks mblaney and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/994857341387526145
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mblaney (copypasta got done by a space!)
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@GregoriaTravels August 14th Meetup Building The Indieweb - Shared from http://Effaustin.org. [http://effaustin.org/2017/07/august-14th-meetup-building-the-indieweb/] https://t.co/z0vyJDOjAJ (twitter.com/_/status/994893847263137804)
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@huffduffer An Indieweb Podcast: Episode 4 "Webmentions and Privacy" https://huffduffer.com/kwlblt/476431 (twitter.com/_/status/994898174346186752)
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tomasparks i am wanting to get website off github, i am being drawn to aws's pay-as-you-go all-in-one bill
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Zegnat tomasparks, I think some people here have been playing with AWS. Including running things like IndieAuth and Micropub on Lambda.
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tomasparks :thinking:
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danyao curious what do people think about self hosting on AWS vs. Google Cloud Platform?
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danyao I've played with appengine before, but more people seem to use AWS
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@srushe Apparently @NIDevConf think it's a good idea to let me talk about the Indieweb next month, however don't let this put you off going to what I'm sure will be an excellent day otherwise! (twitter.com/_/status/994958792675774464)
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Zegnat danyao, I think several tools are hosted on appengine. In the end, where you are hosting isn’t super important
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danyao i wonder if people notice any ease of use differences?
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[kevinmarks] I find appengine easier, though heroku on AWS is fairly easy too
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[kevinmarks] it depends a bit on what you're hosting
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@martijnvdven @jkphl a little birdy told me there is another awesome animated group photo from @IndieWebCampDE Düsseldorf? Any chance of getting it into this week’s newsletter before it gets send out today? (twitter.com/_/status/994972205422448641)
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@tolloid non-prescriptive technologies reminds me very much of the principle driven indieweb movement https://indieweb.org/principles #c4ln18 @waharnum (twitter.com/_/status/994973709319507969)
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@jkphl ↩️ I'd love to say yes, Martijn, but I won't make it, unfortunately. I arrived back home yesterday, was (and am) really exhausted and had already a packed schedule again today. With a bit of luck I might be able to edit the photos on the weekend (can't promise though). Sorry! (twitter.com/_/status/994975192224018432)
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@adventure_ext August 14th Meetup Building The Indieweb - Shared from http://Effaustin.org. [http://effaustin.org/2017/07/august-14th-meetup-building-the-indieweb/] https://t.co/ke4758dCl9 (twitter.com/_/status/994978786868330496)
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[jgmac1106] @danyo I have been on AWS for a few years and keep stumbling on enough free credits I rarely have months I pay.
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[jgmac1106] Most folks can get by on the free tier for itch scratching
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danyao Thanks @kevinmarks and @jgmac1106. I want to play with making my own microsub server. So far just been playing with a local nodejs app. Since I'm new to node too, maybe I'll go with appengine for now. :)
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tantek_ Wow just saw this, seems pretty important for IndieWeb: https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/9/17333108/net-neutrality-congressional-review-act-cra-resolution-vote-senate
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tantek_ aaronpk ^^^ worth adding to indienews for this week?
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snarfed $1M available (10 $100K grants) to people building decentralized social networks: https://www.requestforsocialnetworks.com/
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aaronpk ... on a blockchain
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tantek_ yeah was going to say, buried the lede a bit ;)
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tantek_ still, maybe benwerd could apply?
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ While I'm thinking about it, if you aren't aware yet, this year's IndieWeb Summit is coming up on June 26-27 in Portland. It would be great to see you all there. https://indieweb.org/2018 (twitter.com/_/status/994991764258902017)
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tantek_ tempting to apply as "IndieWeb" and ask them to send the check to our "Sponsor" crowdfunding mechanism
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tantek_ snarfed, applying for Bridgy + granary?
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Zegnat Is it even just “on a blockchain”? It feels like they really want you to use their APIs. Like, can we use authentication other than one that uses the “Blockstack browser”? https://blockstack.github.io/blockstack.js/index.html#authentication
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@martijnvdven ↩️ Hotlinked 3 photos representing both days, the newsletter should pick up on it 😀 If you think there is a huge quality difference between Twitter and the full file, feel free to send them. Else this’ll be it until we get nice photos later on! https://indieweb.org/2018/D%C3%BCsseldorf#Photos (twitter.com/_/status/994995659592880128)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I think @m_ott has experience (and a plugin) with the webmention portion: https://indieweb.org/Craft The http://micro.blog portion should hopefully be as simple as inputting an RSS/JSON or other feed. @manton2 may possibly know of others. (twitter.com/_/status/994997416851050497)
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@ChrisAldrich Why rely on yet another corporation that may do the same? Come join the #IndieWeb! #silosgonnasilo #ownyourdata https://twitter.com/50cent/status/994306263650656257 https://boffosocko.com/2018/05/11/reply-to-50cent-tweet-about-instagram-abuse/ (twitter.com/_/status/995007815549837312)
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[jgmac1106] [snarfed] I think you should a decentralized web built on html standards would have a chance at funding.
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snarfed [jgmac1106]: thanks! maybe so. i don't need the money though, and i absolutely don't want any more structure or bureaucracy or obligation, so i'll pass.
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[jgmac1106] Yeah its set up more like an incubator. I think a better source (slightly selfishly but value driven selfishness) is looking at higher ed research grants to fill indieweb coffers or pay for future development released in open
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[jgmac1106] Still be nice to see a million dollars sitting in the fundraising account and say we built a decentralized network, "We call it the web"
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Zegnat Submit the HTML standard as “decentralised network”? ;)
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@dasnuf Es gibt tatsächlich EINEN Artikel zur Frage #DSGVO und #Indieweb Fazit: Es ist kompliziert - https://sebastiangreger.net/2018/05/indieweb-privacy-challenge-webmentions-backfeeds-gdpr/ (twitter.com/_/status/995028065867698176)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ If you're free, I hope you might join us either in person or remotely via live stream in Portland on June 26-27 for the IndieWebSummit. https://2018.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/995030081373396992)
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jacky ah thanks y'all for showing me that site
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jacky looks like I can't nest a RSVP within a post
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jacky this _kinda_ will break my site design :( :(
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gRegorLove Oh no :/ Do you have CSS targeting your mf2 class names? That can cause problems.
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gRegorLove jacky: looks like you only need to update the p-rsvp part of your post:
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gRegorLove <data class="p-rsvp" value="yes">I'm excited to be at IndieWebCamp 2018.</data>
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jacky is that incorrect?
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jacky I was aiming to go microformats.org but it's not responding for me
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jacky (might be HTTPS Everywhere)
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Zegnat Working here, it definitely shouldn’t be https though
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jacky ha that's the issue then
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gRegorLove When parsing RSVPs, they expect a "yes" or "no" value.
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jacky wait but is the value the `innerText` or that `value` attr?
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jacky is looking at the site now
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gRegorLove You can use a <data> element instead of a strong to specify that "yes" for the consuming code, but still have the human-friendly "I'm excited..." message
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jacky OH
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jacky I totally didn't see that
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gRegorLove For <data> element, it uses the value attribute
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jacky haha thank you!
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gRegorLove Here's my rsvp post for example: https://gregorlove.com/2018/05/im-attending-indieweb-summit-2018/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] I’m attending IndieWeb Summit 2018!
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gRegorLove np, glad to help
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-05-11.html
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Zegnat Nice, photos made it in and look good!
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jacky lol wow, I feel like I spammed up this mailing list
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jacky ha, I really need to work on my webmention styling
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@jackyalcine I'm heading to the @indiewebcamp summit this year in Portland, OR! https://jacky.wtf/weblog/going-indieweb-summit-2018/ (twitter.com/_/status/995052829667557376)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-05-11.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-05-11.html https://t.co/QOJv2go4c3 (twitter.com/_/status/995064775171231744)
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GWG Why does my running Indieweb search bring me office chairs?
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jacky o.O
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[kevinmarks] Ai based on our meetups in fancy startup offices?
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@JmacDotOrg I’m gonna be in Portland during the last week of June for the IndieWeb Summit, whee https://indieweb.org/2018 (twitter.com/_/status/995085825187696640)
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@gRegorLove An Invitation to IndieWeb Summit https://gregorlove.com/2018/05/an-invitation-to-indieweb-summit/ (twitter.com/_/status/995086089428725761)
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aaronpk gRegorLove++
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