#indieweb 2018-06-08

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jgmac1106 [cjwillicock] just reading your draft suggestions and loving them. If you are just a week into I would love to inverview you too as well for our UX research. You Aside is such an important point. First time I build a mf2 site I asked, “Do I have to link to something like a stylesheet, bootstrap or font awesome?
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GWG aaronpk, I just saw your message. I would come
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jgmac1106 oops [cjwillcock]
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aaronpk Sweet, know any place near Grand Central that would be good? I can search if not
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GWG Not off hand
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GWG I haven't been to Manhattan since October
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GWG It would take me till 7ish to get there
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GWG I know a good deli on 37th and 8th, but not the right venue
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jgmac1106 well I found the history of how I made my “Naming Things is Hard” Zeega but the content is lost forever: https://writingwhilethrowing.tumblr.com/post/110125609988/a-walkmyworld-remix-play-zeega-by-greg
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gRegorLove !tell cjwillcock Some answers to your microformats questions: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._I_thought_one_of_the_main_goals_of_CSS_was_to_separate_data_from_presentation._Isn.E2.80.99t_this_sneaking_presentation_back_into_data.3F and the data- question below that
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Microformats FAQ
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[cjwillcock] thanks [jgmac1106]. I didn't realize I would have a reader already - it's a work in progress 🙂
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Loqi [cjwillcock]: gRegorLove left you a message 13 minutes ago: Some answers to your microformats questions: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._I_thought_one_of_the_main_goals_of_CSS_was_to_separate_data_from_presentation._Isn.E2.80.99t_this_sneaking_presentation_back_into_data.3F and the data- question below that
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jgmac1106 yeah wish we used the talk pages on wiki but once we all get some ideas drafted on our own subpages we can come together, agree on a common text structure, and build out the guides
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[cjwillcock] [jgmac1106] I'm up for an interview if you like (not immediately, but we can find some time for that)
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jgmac1106 yeah ping me anytime 3:30-8:30 pm edt hard for me with three kids, and weekends usually out but other than that I am good
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[cjwillcock] I feel that difficult scheduling, five kids here. Tues/Thurs are my best days for free time. I'll ping you later on.
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[cjwillcock] gRegorLove++ For background re: microformats2 conventions
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jgmac1106 cool planning my class noiw where everyone will be using an indieweb blog: https://glitch.com/edit/#!/join/582993e2-abab-4046-a954-dd639e6966b9 just my notes markdown file for now
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jgmac1106 yeah gRegorLove is an MF2 genius, it is a common question, like I said my first, and I didn’t know the answer
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KartikPrabhu jgmac1106: more like gRegorLove has worked a lot on mf2 parsing and so knows more
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KartikPrabhu sorry "genius" is a pet peeve
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jgmac1106 okay I will refrain from complementing people, what you are card carrying mensa member who takes offense?
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gRegorLove Hah
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KartikPrabhu lol! no it is the other way around ;)
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jgmac1106 kidding of course, from a feedback perspective your response makes people grow and calling them “geniuns’ hurts learning
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KartikPrabhu jgmac1106: yes! :)
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gRegorLove I'm definitely not a genius, but thank you.
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gRegorLove [cjwillcock], if you have any more microformat questions, there's a group of us in #microformats
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KartikPrabhu uh! that "yes" was for the second comment. I don't have any mensa card :P I do have a h-card though :P
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gRegorLove cjwillcock++ for documenting your getting-started process on the wiki thoroughly
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gRegorLove Lots of good feedback in there. There are some outstanding updates to indiewebify.me which will resolve some of the rel=me link issues you ran into
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jgmac1106 somebody must have <a span=u-ahole>Mensa Member</span> in their hcard somewhere
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[cjwillcock] karma cherry! thanks gRegorLove
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@cathieleblanc A post about the design of my web site #IndieWeb #itches http://cathieleblanc.com/shorten/2 (twitter.com/_/status/1004898955401093121)
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@christydena @pfefferle Hello Matthias! Query: my web mentions were working for my last post on April 27, but now not. I’ve deactivated Wordfence but not change. Any ideas? Plugins: Bridgy, IndieWeb, Post Kinds, Semantic-Linkbacks, Series, Simple Location, uf2, Webmention, WP Related posts :) (twitter.com/_/status/1004903721686319104)
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@andrewsreading ✌ @Reading "Practical Documentation: What the Indieweb Needs for WordPress – Brad Enslen" http://ing.am/p/4Zyg (twitter.com/_/status/1004906110292250625)
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@actualham "Design of My Website." @cathieleblanc talks about her emergence into #IndieWeb: https://cathieleblanc.com/blog/design-of-my-website/ #digped #OEP (twitter.com/_/status/1004917866205007877)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-06-08.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@fionajvoss The IndieWeb Summit RSVP list is giving me major FOMO. Hopefully next year I'll be able to go and meet everyone! Small conference organizers, I think a public RSVP list may be a super effective way to promote your event. Of course, attendees can RSVP ... http://fionavoss.blog/2018/06/07/19264 (twitter.com/_/status/1004956799957684225)
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@jgmac1106 @cathieleblanc. I asked around in chat and @chrisaldrich sent me this: https://developer.wordpress.org/themes/template-files-section/taxonomy-templates/#modify-how-posts-are-displayed. This is how we would edit the taxonomy pages for a photo ppost kind, or any kind, for that matter. #IndieWeb community is grabbing the attention of more… https://jgregorymcverry.com/3447-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1005027280438079488)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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dgold hey hey jeremycherfas
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dgold how went your week?
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jeremycherfas How are things?
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dgold weather is nice
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dgold fruit and veg are growing
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jeremycherfas Still? It was wonderful in Dublin last week.
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dgold we need to earth up our potato plants at the weekend, and plant out our corn
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@kevinmarks ↩️ I like the sound of this, but Web3 foundation sounds confusingly like @w3c we had a lot of web 3.0 meming about 10 years ago. https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/what-i-meant-to-say-was-semantic-web/ #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1005042529547489280)
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dgold our tomatoes did not do well, sadly
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jeremycherfas -> #chat
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j4y_funabashi morning all
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jeremycherfas Hiya
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j4y_funabashi jeremycherfas: hows things?
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jeremycherfas Good. Happier giving gardening advice than working.
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j4y_funabashi is the microformats wiki down for anyone else? http://microformats.org/wiki/h-event is just spinning for me
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jeremycherfas Very slow here.
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jeremycherfas Yeah, probably down.
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[jgmac1106] Yes for me
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sknebel yep, has been having issues on and off lately
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j4y_funabashi jeremycherfas: haha fair, One garden related thing I wanted to setup one day is a timelapse camera to capture squirrel/fox/hedgehog/plants activity :)
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j4y_funabashi I have a raspberry pi with a camera but I would need to weather proof it somehow
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jeremycherfas Camera traps are super fun. There was a great group for hacking the Canon Sureshots, which allowed you to snap a picture only when something in the image field changed. Much easier than beam interruption or timelapse.
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jeremycherfas http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK
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j4y_funabashi ahh ok yes I think I saw some similar software for the rPi
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[jgmac1106] I live in a hunting town. Wildlife cameras cheap to come by, not as fun as building one, but I resort to encouraging kids to pee around the garden and will use netting if birds get bad. I don't have enough land to shoot rascaly varmint
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jeremycherfas Cjwillcock++ for really excellent documentation of onboarding with WP
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[jgmac1106] Have dogs and that helps but nature wins and my tomatoes fail.
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petermolnar huh. I appeneded my letsencrypt cert for a domain with pubsub. for XMPP; something started to immediately scrape the site via pubsub.domain
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sknebel not surprising
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[jgmac1106] Oops sorry for mixing up channels
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sknebel people run all sorts of automated studies on certificate use etc, security people use it as scanning input, ...
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[kevinmarks] hm - http://web3summit.com/ says to check their twitter account for details. Not exactly web
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[snarfed] looks like https://huffduffer.com has been down for 18h or so
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@GregoriaTravels August 14th Meetup Building The Indieweb - Shared from http://Effaustin.org. [http://effaustin.org/2017/07/august-14th-meetup-building-the-indieweb/] https://t.co/uVLr9xOtOZ (twitter.com/_/status/1005097864157114369)
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jgmac1106 Can anyone help me with some wiki shortcode, trying to figure out how to add submenus to the main menu her: https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com/getting-started-with-WordPress-for-beginners
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jgmac1106 nvm header levels do it automatically
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@martinlindner Die Kernidee des #Indieweb: Eigener Web Space für jede/n von uns. Das Uni-Projekt "Domain of One's Own" und der daraus hervorgegangene Service @reclaimhosting haben das konkret umgesetzt. (twitter.com/_/status/1005104307165908992)
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jgmac1106 who is rammdev
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jgmac1106 who is raamdev
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jgmac1106 who is [raamdev]
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@jgmac1106 @raamdev I am going through and writing documentation for #IndieWeb WordPress themes. Independent Publisher is awesome! I wanted to check if you are still actively developing Independent Publisher and if it should be included still be included as a 100%… https://jgregorymcverry.com/3456-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1005106561226805248)
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@jgmac1106 Looking for an way to start contributing to the @WordPress #IndieWeb community? No coding or theme editing necessary? We need help testing and recording different syndication tools for a few themes. Basically publishing a bunch of test posts under a… https://jgregorymcverry.com/3458-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1005108211379208193)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Hey #literacies #doo #engchat #digped #edtechchat #edtechafterdark #ds106 the #IndieWeb @WordPress community is recruiting some volunteers. Great way for non-technical person to make first contribution. (https://jgregorymcverry.com/3460-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1005109414569959426)
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@wiobyrne Just sent out issue #153 of TL;DR. This is titled "Deep thoughts about screentime." A little #OER #indieweb #socialmedia #highered & #fakenews YIKES!!! :) http://bit.ly/2M92RDW (twitter.com/_/status/1005117397844549633)
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@DLocke14 In a recent blog post, Greg McVerry examines the challenges and opportunities of injecting some IndieWeb philosophies into Google Scholar, and other systems for tracking, citing, and identifying pu… https://wiobyrne.com/futures-of-digital-scholarship/ (twitter.com/_/status/1005127904441896960)
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@aaronpk Surprise! I'm in NY! Meet me for a popup #indieweb meetup tonight at Hofbräu Bierhaus near Grand Central! 7:30pm http://4sq.com/i9XQuQ (twitter.com/_/status/1005144539386875904)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Manually adding a new post kind to the Post Kinds Plugin for WordPress" https://boffosocko.com/2018/06/06/manually-adding-a-new-post-kind-to-the-post-kinds-plugin-for-wordpress/
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tantek aaronpk++ nice!
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jgmac1106 [tantek] any luck on the microformats wki?
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106, to my knowledge Independent Publisher is still being actively maintained. It's just hit a level at which it's become very stable.
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chrisaldrich It's one of a small number of themes that is so solid that WordPress.com actually forked it and maintains a separate version for WordPress.com users.
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jgmac1106 okay that is what I need to know, will include it in the descriptions'
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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Loqi Zegnat: tantek left you a message 3 days, 20 hours ago: did you post your :thumbs-up: reaction to this comment https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/3837#issuecomment-394359165 on your own site somewhere and then POSSE to GitHub? Or only use the GitHub web UI? If the latter, would you consider posting it as a response on your own site, even after the fact, add yourself to https://indieweb.org/GitHub#IndieWeb_Examples
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Zegnat So, what did I miss by dropping offline to take care of uni stuff this weke?
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Loqi misses by dropping offline to take care of uni stuff this weke too
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[kevinmarks] Loqi earning a degree ftw
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tantek_ jgmac1106, luck on the microformats wiki about ... ? remind me?
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Zegnat Probably refering to the fact that the wiki is (still?) down?
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tantek_ looks
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-06-08.html
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[chrisaldrich] jgmac1106 Zegnat with regard to your academic reference project I wonder if this may be useful to you? https://twitter.com/yelperalp/status/870315565637918720?s=03
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@yelperalp DID YOU KNOW that you can get bibtex from any DOI? `curl -L -H "Accept: application/x-bibtex" http://dx .doi.org/[DOI]` ...how cool is that? (twitter.com/_/status/870315565637918720)
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Zegnat My current problem is more with parsing BibTeX, [chrisaldrich] :( https://github.com/Zegnat/php-greg-cites/issues/3#issuecomment-394510720
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Loqi [Zegnat] [According to Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BibTeX#Field_types), multiple authors are always “separated by `and`”. But it all seems bit vague. I have also seen [documents](https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/~collberg/Teaching/07.231/BibTeX...
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[chrisaldrich] I've occasionally dabbled in some of the citation stuff out there since I often use LaTeX, but haven't looked at any of the standards before.
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tantek microformats server rebooted, seems very responsive now
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[chrisaldrich] thanks tantek!
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[chrisaldrich] On WordPress I've been using https://github.com/dsifford/academic-bloggers-toolkit for doing citations for a while. I've not delved deeply into his code, but it seems like one of the more flexible tools I've seen out there that's also opensource.
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Loqi [dsifford] academic-bloggers-toolkit: Wordpress plugin providing an all-in-one solution for effective academic blogging.
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[chrisaldrich] Zegnat, I suspect you've looked at one or more of the BibTeX parsers out there to make sure you're not reinventing the wheel?
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[kevinmarks] Generally big yikes on some of the stuff here, like the docs straight out say "the process will leak memory so we periodically kill it" like what https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/100169277500179278
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Loqi [Eugen] Generally big yikes on some of the stuff here, like the docs straight out say "the process will leak memory so we periodically kill it" like what
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Zegnat I think I am using one of the two parsers I saw on packagist, [chrisaldrich]. If you know about more parsers, do open an issue with any resources you have :)
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gRegorLove Is newsletter 2pm or 3pm Pacific?
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gRegorLove rushes just in case
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aaronpk Time moves too quickly and I keep forgetting to update that message for DST
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aaronpk i thought it was correct now tho
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Announcing indiebookclub" https://gregorlove.com/2018/06/announcing-indiebookclub/
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[chrisaldrich] gReorLove++
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[chrisaldrich] What is an incredible journey
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "incredible journey" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "incredible journey is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106 gRegorLove++ had a wonderful book conversation this morning. Congrats on launch
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Two of my favorites are: @aaronpk: https://aaronparecki.com/ @adactio: https://adactio.com/ Not just for their content, but how they use them and the fantastic functionality they provide. #IndieWeb #commonplacebook (twitter.com/_/status/1005204313617174530)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-06-08.html
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gRegorLove Nice work, schmarty: https://martymcgui.re/2018/06/08/170522/ That's quick turnaround for adding micropub /read post support.
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Thanks for this excellent service! As a developer, the debug info made it possible to quickly add compatible read posts to my site. Here’s my first one! Read along with me on indiebookclub.biz/users/martymcguire!
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gRegorLove Thanks, jgmac1106. book conversation here in chat or elsewhere?
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[colinwalker] gRegorLove++ nice work
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-06-08.html (twitter.com/_/status/1005211627044519936)
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schmarty gRegorLove++ indiebookclub.biz is the reading micropub client the world needs / deserves
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@t Awesome #dweb/#openweb meetups & #IndieWeb Summit coming up! June 13th: #DecentralizedWeb Meetup @InternetArchive 18th: Re-Decentralising The Web, London @WebStandards 26-27 @IndieWebSummit, Portland OR 29th: @OSBridge, Portland OR Links & tickets: http://tantek.com/t4uq1 (twitter.com/_/status/1005214714513821702)
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tantek_ !rt twtr.io/1ejnKwECsgh
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tantek_ !rt https://twitter.com/t/status/1005214714513821702
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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sknebel !rt https://twitter.com/t/status/1005214714513821702
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Loqi Thanks sknebel and tantek_! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1005217673565831169
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