#indieweb 2018-06-20

2018-06-20 UTC
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@sdepolo This is great news. Who else is excited for @IndieWebSummit next week, and avoiding the dystopian future @MarkHertling writes about? There's still time to register. https://2018.indieweb.org/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1009240753967493120)
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@MarkHertling ↩️ @sdepolo @IndieWebSummit Wrong Hertling, Stacy. (twitter.com/_/status/1009241696205406209)
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@sdepolo This is great news. Who else is excited for @IndieWebSummit next week, and avoiding the dystopian future @hertling writes about? There's still time to register. https://2018.indieweb.org/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1009242253213089792)
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@sdepolo ↩️ Thanks for letting me know, Mark. The twitter autocomplete gets me sometimes when I am moving too fast. (twitter.com/_/status/1009242668629544960)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @markhertling but if you ever did want to learn how to bring #IndieWeb power to Florida Hospital Publishing @sdepolo could help you out. Be cool to collect all the mentions of your posts as people discuss your work social media and have them appear as… http://jgregorymcverry.com/3674-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1009243633156059136)
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@jgmac1106 @sdepolo We were just discussing that if GoDaddy has tutorials for installing any WordPress IndieWeb powered themes, Known, or Drupal with IndieWeb plugins be happy to have you add them here: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#tutorials (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3676-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1009244482418741249)
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@MarkHertling ↩️ @sdepolo @IndieWebSummit It gets us all! (twitter.com/_/status/1009244689638227968)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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tantek__ Good evening Zegnat
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Zegnat On reacji and the multi-meaning of something like a clap/star/like: http://log.chrisbowler.com/post/175054339180/dont-make-me-think
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@tylerc ↩️ i'm deep in zines now. how did i even get here? i don't know but i can't quit https://web.archive.org/web/19970108071435/http://indieweb.com:80/rockrgrl/10/sleater.html https://t.co/RBT9jnvuM1 (twitter.com/_/status/1009345402489982976)
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petermolnar Zegnat: before clicking the contrast button, my site does not write any localstorage (moved from cookies). Now, I wonder if it's enough to put the note of doing so in the 'a title=' on the contrast button - is should be, shouldn't it?
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Zegnat titles are an accessibility nightmare. As in, hard to say who has access to what you put in there at what time. So if someone wants to mess with you, they can probably make the claim that any data policy hidden in a title attribute is hard to find. I’d not bother with it.
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Zegnat All your CSS is inline right? Your server can’t even know which one is being applied by the browser? Doesn’t sound like you need any sort of policy as everything is local to the user.
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Zegnat I like the little spin on the toggle graphic, for what that’s worth! :D
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petermolnar especially since it's been moved from cookie to localstorage
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petermolnar thanks :)
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petermolnar that's actually a very simple trick
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petermolnar it's a css transform 0.3s + rotate 180, the latter being in the new css that gets activated
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petermolnar I'm not completely certain why the color changes though, the overwrite layer isn't touching that
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Zegnat You mean the on-hover colour?
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petermolnar let's bring this to -dev
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petermolnar https://mobile.twitter.com/Senficon/status/1009359196054224897
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@Senficon #Article13, the #CensorshipMachines, has been adopted by @EP_Legal with a 15:10 majority. Again: We will take this fight to plenary and still hope to #SaveYourInternet https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgH2k9TW4AAYXjL.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1009359196054224897)
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petermolnar https://mobile.twitter.com/Senficon/status/1009358461401001984
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@Senficon Article 11, the #LinkTax, has just been adopted by @EP_Legal with a 13:12 majority. We will take this fight to plenary and still hope to overturn the plan. #SaveYourInternet #SaveTheLink https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgH1qliX0AE4Tc1.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1009358461401001984)
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petermolnar ...
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Zegnat Its been a good time friends, time to shut down the internet ;)
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petermolnar http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png?1306264975
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petermolnar the trouble with this is people don't work the way they "should". In theory, if you can't upload content to silos, they'll upload it to independent places, right? Well, no, they'll just walk away, or at least this is what I've been experiencing.
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petermolnar also, link tax effect us directly as well: no more snapshots and snippets
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Zegnat What is Link Tax?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Link Tax" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Link Tax is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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sknebel good overview of the further process: https://edri.org/next-steps-copyright-directive-article-13/
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ It would be cool @no and I checked out your website. I actually am working on an #IndieWeb fork of @cogdog’s Dimension version of your theme here:https://github.com/jgmac1106/wp-dimension you have to add the xfn field for the rel=”me” and the h-card manually. Told the… http://jgregorymcverry.com/3679-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1009377977904369665)
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@webstandards After this weeks #lwsJun18 if you want to know more about #IndieWeb #WebMentions #MicroPub etc then why not go along to @HWCLondon (twitter.com/_/status/1009395398400774144)
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@jgmac1106 Just a reminder It’s Virtual Homebrew Website Club: Blogging 101 tonight at 8:30 edt. If you want to show of your blog, get help launching one, or even learn how to add #IndieWeb tools stop by. Will post hangout link later. #edchat #edtechchat… http://jgregorymcverry.com/3683-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1009400560431312897)
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jgmac1106 [wiobyrne] and every that was talking about the private IndieWeb to -do list. Realized we totally over though that one. Why not just keep a post unpublished or use a password
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jgmac1106 [gwg] Might get St John’s University involved. so if the grant is funded will have to schedule some HWC NYC to help with the teachers and the students.
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[jgmac1106] and flights jump $300. Universities waste so much on inefficient travel
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[jgmac1106] also have to take red eye on Wed night as my son made all-stars and has a game Thursday. No flight gets me home in time
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[jgmac1106] grrrr
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GWG I live near St John's
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[kevinmarks] https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/right
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[jgmac1106] any reason to fly in Sunday over Monday?
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@lightcastle Internet rabbit hole has led me to things like Kune and the IndieWeb movement and I wonder if any of these things would actually be useful. Are they all still "by geeks, for geeks" and hold a too-high bar to entry? (twitter.com/_/status/1009462228884566018)
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GWG I know a bunch of us arrive Sunday night
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tantek__ GWG -> meta
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@t 6 days til the 8th @IndieWebSummit gathers innovators, artists, designers, and journalists to share, make, and grow the independent web, publishing & interacting with each other using their personal websites instead of social media silos. Join us: http://tantek.com/t4v21 (twitter.com/_/status/1009485217432784896)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @lightcastle What do you want to user them for? Drop by http://chat.indieweb.org if you want to talk about indieweb and how it might help you (twitter.com/_/status/1009489346666356736)
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@schmarty You (yes, you!) are invited to the 2018 @IndieWebSummit, now less than one week away! https://martymcgui.re/2018/06/20/140442/ (twitter.com/_/status/1009498872782229504)
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@jackjamieson Thinking about if/how to adopt Microsub into my feed reader: Yarns v. Microsub? (Thinking out loud) https://jackjamieson.net/yarns-v-microsub/ #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1009499780391849988)
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@wiobyrne ↩️ As a side note to your side note...this is another really fascinating tweet/comment that I want to save for a rainy day. I'm still thinking through @harmonygritz's idea of "laws" of digital spaces & @Bali_Maha's recent points. I need an #indieweb tool to save tweets for later (twitter.com/_/status/1009501915066109952)
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@gRegorLove Great summary of the IndieWeb Summit by @schmarty! Join us next week in Portland. https://martymcgui.re/2018/06/20/140442/ (twitter.com/_/status/1009502255618371584)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ It is called your bookmark post-kind and/or webmentions. #IndieWeb already has way to save Tweets. Also try @archive_tweet (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3687-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1009506877472993281)
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@wiobyrne Inspired by a series of interview questions posted by Alan Levine (@cogdog) I wrote about why I blog & maintain a domain of my own #whydomain #indieweb #doOO http://bit.ly/2yuXfkI (twitter.com/_/status/1009522131430989830)
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@manton2 IndieWeb Summit next week: http://www.manton.org/2018/06/indieweb-summit-next-week.html (twitter.com/_/status/1009523326950223872)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "You're Invited to IndieWeb Summit!" https://martymcgui.re/2018/06/20/140442/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/20/5/)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Summit next week | Manton Reece" http://www.manton.org/2018/06/indieweb-summit-next-week.html (from https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/20/6/)
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Jeena Oh man, something terrible happened today at work. Because we work with banks and big automotive companies, they are very afraid of industrial spionage (especially from the US), therefor our IT is hosting our own email server, our own chat solution etc, everything nice and secure. But today they announced that Facebook Workplace will be the new service for internal communication.
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sknebel 🤦
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[jgmac1106] Galvin's got a box for you
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KartikPrabhu this has to be a meme somewhere "worried about spying, uses Facebook"
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@jgmac1106 Reading Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie and thinking about Vygotsky #DoOO and #IndieWeb. What does it mean when identity is mediated by silos versus a space a youth owns? (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3689-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1009530889133527040)
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@jonathanprozzi Baltimore web adventurers! Join us on Weds 6/27 at 5:30pm for the next @HWCBaltimore! Build your personal site, take back your online identity, and free your data and friendships from the silos! All skill levels welcome + encouraged https://jonathanprozzi.net/indieweb/homebrew-website-club-baltimore-wednesday-june-27-2018/ (twitter.com/_/status/1009531161633320961)
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tantek__ KartikPrabhu: I think this is the meme you're looking for (unknown original image source) http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/post/67036166490/college-liberal-is-ready-for-the-html-wgs
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tantek__ re: https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-06-20/1529525440695800
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KartikPrabhu lol!
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Loqi [KartikPrabhu] this has to be a meme somewhere "worried about spying, uses Facebook"
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tantek__ that's a hilarious anecdote Jeena
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tantek__ I wonder if it's something you could blog at a permalink :)
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tantek_ or maybe this permalink is good enough: https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-06-20/1529525061463900
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tantek__ what is Facebook Workplace
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Facebook Workplace" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Facebook Workplace is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi [Jeena] Oh man, something terrible happened today at work. Because we work with banks and big automotive companies, they are very afraid of industrial spionage (especially from the US), therefor our IT is hosting our own email server, our own chat solution e...
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tantek__ huh
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@jgmac1106 @troyhicks Let the conference hashtag know I run a Virtual Homebrew Website Club at 8:30 edt focused on #blogging101. @cathieleblanc feel free to stop by again. @wiobyrne come in and show off your breadcrumbs or digitally literate research project… http://jgregorymcverry.com/3691-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1009573588884770817)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ FYI #literacies #edtechchat #edchat #sschat #engchat #edtechafterdark Come hang tonight at 8:30 EDt and talk Blogging101 and #IndieWeb (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3693-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1009575036011925505)
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tantek__ what is Blogging101
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Blogging101" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Blogging101 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__ what is Blogging 101
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Blogging_101
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tantek__ Blogging101 is /Blogging_101
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Loqi ok
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@robrogan Just listened to the latest Getting Caught Up. I can see how going to a new community has that “fresh start” feeling w/o internet scum for @iamjeffperry, but I think the main “pro” of the indieweb –the content is yours– is also the biggest “con.” What’s to prevent harassment? (twitter.com/_/status/1009585944205430784)
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Jeena tantek__ https://jeena.net/notes/950
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Loqi [Jeena] Oh man, something terrible happened today at work. Because we work with banks and big automotive companies, they are very afraid of industrial spionage (especially from the US), therefor our IT is hosting our own email server, our own chat solution e...