#indieweb 2018-07-10

2018-07-10 UTC
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aaronpk
really need a good location editor for my website. i'm getting real tired of this workflow of looking up gps coordinates on google maps and entering them manually into my storage posts 😂
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tantek
aaronpk, your watch does GPS right?
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tantek
can you make a GPS equivalent of teacup that "just" posts your current lat/long to your site ;)
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tantek
(with one tap)
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aaronpk
oh i have a whole app for that, that's not the problem
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aaronpk
but when i post an event in the future, i want to add the location of the event including the lat/lng
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tantek
hence venues being a better UI than lat/lng
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tantek
what is create event
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Loqi
create event is the act of and UI for creating a new event post, in its simplest form a new event permalink https://indieweb.org/create_event
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tantek
what is create location
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "create location" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "create location is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk
in order to make a map, i need a lat/lng
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tantek
^^^ start that page with silo examples
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aaronpk
in order to get a lat/lng i need some sort of search for the venue
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tantek
e.g. Twitter, Swarm both have "nice" UIs for picking locations/venues which then also provide lat/long in the posts
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tantek
no, both Twitter and Swarm show maps *without* making the user even *care* or *know* what lat/lng is
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aaronpk
but since i'm building my site i do in fact need to care about the backend
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tantek
you don't need lat/lng as part of the UI
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aaronpk
i never said i needed it in the UI
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tantek
that's the key
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tantek
" i want to add the location of the event including the lat/lng" sounded like "part of the UI"
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aaronpk
no i just need it bubbled through to the backend so i can make a map
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aaronpk
right now quill has a text field for entering the location of an event, which isn't super helpful
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tantek
right now I use URLs for venues, and then have a venue URL cache (in code) that links to @-names of venues
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tantek
which my code then uses to POSSE the event to Twitter
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tantek
that's how I do locations on my events
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tantek
sorry that's getting more dev-like
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aaronpk
i like being able to just type the name of the venue, i'll probably start with that instead of starting with entering URLs
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tantek
auto-suggest drop down from venue cache should be doable
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tantek
with combination of venue URL, venue name, venue @-name all in the auto-suggest
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gRegorLove
cuibonobo[m], did your site die or did you switch domain names?
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cuibonobo[m]
I think it has been wiped and restarted (probably several times) since the last time I've been around
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GWG
aaronpk, tantek, venue ui is a long standing one on my list
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Adrian
Tried logging in to indirweb with my micro.blog hosted site. No luck
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Adrian
I'm using my own domain. Izq.fm
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aaronpk
Adrian: when I visit that domain it says it's for sale and has a bunch of ads on it
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[eddie]
Adrian: I’m assuming you just recently set up this domain name? I see your micro.blog site, but aaronpk mentioned he sees a placeholder site. This tells me that the records that point your domain to micro.blog is still taking time to spread across the internet. It should probably be fully functional between 24-48 hours of when you set it up with micro.blog
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[cleverdevil]
[eddie] that's for reporting that issue, I am now checking for a minimum of a 'name' and 'content' property to be returned from mf2py before falling back to mercury.
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[cleverdevil]
I've deployed an updated version of Indiepaper, and tested with the article you included in the submission.
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KartikPrabhu
ooh another "big" user of mf2py! fun!
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[cleverdevil]
[aaronpk] what do you think about an update to microsub to allow clients to filter channels by the `category` property of the items in the channel?
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aaronpk
[cleverdevil]: I think it sounds like a fun UI challenge and also a small can of worms, but worth experimenting with
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aaronpk
I'd say start with mocking up how you want it to look in a reader and let's see if we can get a couple people on board
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[cleverdevil]
:thumbsup:
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tantek__
what is snitch tagging
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "snitch tagging" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "snitch tagging is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__
(I can't believe I'm saying that)
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tantek__
snitch tagging is a special case of explicitly person-mentioning someone in a [[reply]] to or [[quotation]] of a post which mentions (usually critically) that same someone more obliquely (like plain text or a nickname) as a way of notifying that person of the critique, either as a heads-up, or perhaps in agreement with the critique.
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tantek__
snitch tagging << 2018-06-05 Mashable: [https://mashable.com/2018/06/05/snitch-tagging/ Snitch tagging is ruining the internet. Stop it.]
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Loqi
ok, I added "2018-06-05 Mashable: [https://mashable.com/2018/06/05/snitch-tagging/ Snitch tagging is ruining the internet. Stop it.]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /snitch_tagging https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49784&oldid=49783
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://twitter.com/BootstrapCook/status/1016413720598269956?s=19" to the "See Also" section of /snitch_tagging https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49785&oldid=49784
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tantek__
courtesy of kevinmarks
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jgmac1106_
morning IndieWeb
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dgold
hey hey
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jgmac1106_
[kevinmarks] if you have archived copy of that article love to use it in class
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jgmac1106_
hey [dgold]
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dgold
do I get [square brackets]?
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dgold
hmmmm, might start using «dgold» on my own slack<->irc bridge
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dgold
think it looks better
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jgmac1106_
dgold sometimes I forget if I am in Slack or IRC and may @ or [] incorrectly in wrong platform
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@jgmac1106
The elementor pagebuilder plays so nice with post-kinds gonna have a ton of fun fooling around with new ways to display #IndieWeb posts, plus I can start using categories again! Also on: https://is.gd/tq7Q7f
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jgmac1106_
can…should photo posts have titles?
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@jgmac1106
@cathieleblanc @lovi I was able to get a grid view of photos on my #IndieWeb site. I have to add the photo url in the response properties and also as a featured image. Not sure I need it body of photo (creates double photos). This could be the ... https://is.gd/zq34Wb
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skippy
hello indieweb.
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[kevinmarks]
hm, I saw it on my phone without logging in
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[cjwillcock]
good morning indieweb
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sknebel
good morning
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[eddie]
[jgmac1106] precedent says if it’s an Instagram type photo post, no. If it’s a blog post with photos, then yes.
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[wiobyrne]
Good morning IndieWeb
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skippy
hi there.
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@jgmac1106
↩️ I might do it…we could even set it up to help folks getoff of platforms like Weebly and on to a Domain of their own where we can then use cool #IndieWeb stuff (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4191-2/)
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jgmac1106_
mornign [wiobryne]
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[jgmac1106]
thx [eddie] I don't Instagram so I guess if I title photos no big issues, any time you add a photo to Indigenous it woll convert a note to a photo post-kind on my theme anyways
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[eddie]
I guess by saying Instagram, I mean "Photo" posts as opposed to "Blog Posts with Photos"
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[eddie]
When an mf2 parser sees a title (aka name) it will see it as a blog post, as opposed to a photo post
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jgmac1106_
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aaronpk
flickr photos have names
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jgmac1106_
grrrr [aaronpk] why complicate things….actually that is important to note as I am trying to add the correct mf2 to my flickr citation tool
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jgmac1106_
first pass I made everything u-photo, realized I need three different bookmarks, u-photo,
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jgmac1106_
I was all set on never have a title…but was going to start syndicatign to flickr, too bad you can’t pesos from Google Photos, there is Wordpress.com integration
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jgmac1106_
I did lose my flickr fave feed but that is because I think it is flash, tried to create an iframe but bo go
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jgmac1106_
this is where I got on that, need to finish my cc flickr attirbution tool: https://github.com/jgmac1106/flickr-cc-helper/commit/88d6c361812a5ed543c4dfdd33f113dcc932f2d4
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jgmac1106_
an interesting distinction between photography as art “has title” and photography as memories “no title”
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@nilshauk
Currently adding v-card support to my site thanks to https://indiewebify.me . :) #indieweb https://t.co/COCCQFPY71
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jackjamieson
Hello IndieWeb
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KartikPrabhu
jackjamieson: hi
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[kiai]
Hello #indieweb! So much activity, it's great. I've been away hammering away at my business plan for a social media site promoting social equity. Judging by the chatter here, I just missed some very important stuff. Has anyone else had problems logging on to the wiki today?
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gRegorLove
Hi [kiai]. I haven't had a problem. What message are you getting?
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gRegorLove
And what domain are you signing in with?
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[kiai]
Phishing at login https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FBNB6GL9K/indieweb.png?pub_secret=f0aa3bfcc5&name=indieweb.PNG From clicking "Login" on the indieweb.org wiki, this is what came up. Notice the URL.
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[kiai]
[gregorlove] I was going to RSVP for Wednesday's homebrew. Used Chrome. Just tried on Firefox. I see what's happening. SSO in beta?
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gRegorLove
Whoa, that's really weird; I haven't seen that before. aaronpk?^
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snarfed
[kiai]: heh, sorry for the trouble. i believe that's actually legit; aaronpk is migrating indieauth.com to indielogin.com (and others). may have some homework to do to keep that change off various blacklists
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[kiai]
Thanks [snarfed]. I just want to know if homebrew is happening in SF on Wednesday. Planning to be there. Finally able to get back to work on the web!
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sknebel
it's not just a migration though, but a different site... that randomly ending up on a blacklist seems annoying
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sknebel
(fwiw, this *might* be the correct false-positive report form, AVG's website isn't great: https://www.avg.com/en-us/false-positive-file-form )
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[kiai]
Tantek wasn't RSVPed, so... sent him a DM. ... @sknebel was just about to say something about AVG.
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gRegorLove
SF HWC should still be on, afaik.
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[kiai]
Would whitelisting indielogin.com from here help AVG?
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[kiai]
Or should I uninstall AVG and install something else? Alas, on Windows.
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aaronpk
what the
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aaronpk
what is "URL:Phisning"
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "URL:Phisning" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "URL:Phisning is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk
Phishing
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gRegorLove
[kiai], whitelisting indielogin.com should work
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aaronpk
no idea what's triggering AVG to think it's an attack...
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sknebel
aaronpk: looks like you ended up on some domain blacklist
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snarfed
(i expect URL:Phishing is AVG's own term)
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sknebel
try the link I posted to report false positive?
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aaronpk
okay, reported as a false positive
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aaronpk
no idea if I get any feedback on that or anything
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[kiai]
I don't know which website to use to log in. Where would i put the login markup on a Known site?
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aaronpk
[kiai]: you likely don't need to do anything special for a Known site, it should work already. did you get past the AVG error?
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[kiai]
[aaronpk] Yes, I added indielogin.com as a trusted site on AVG (menu -> Settings -> Exceptions -> URL).
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aaronpk
so now what happens when you log in to the wiki?
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aaronpk
(indielogin.com should be telling you what to do next if there's something missing)
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[kiai]
Nothing. I tried using my Known site for login and got instructions.
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aaronpk
instructions?
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[kiai]
Just tried on Firefox, and it worked
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[kiai]
Maybe I was missing http
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[kiai]
yeah, told me I had to paste markup on my site.
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[kiai]
Must include http apparently
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aaronpk
hm it should have added http for you
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[kiai]
It was Chrome...
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gRegorLove
Chrome adds the http for me when I submit
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aaronpk
ah I see.. that's misleading. I should move those
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[kiai]
Maybe I didn't click Sign In. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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aaronpk
yeah that page makes it look like something is wrong, when really it's just asking you to enter your website
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[tantek]
Yes SF HWC is on. Still catching up on all the things and haven’t posted the indie event yet (which is when I also update the rsvp)
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aaronpk
oh no facebook added "list" posts?
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snarfed
ooh may be the first new feature i don't even have to consider supporting any more, since FB is dead to me
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snarfed
s/me/bridgy/
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aaronpk
hahaha aww
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Loqi
rofl
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@00d4n1_ebooks
If i search for my indieweb ostatus identifier from masto well, glitchsoc,….
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gRegorLove
Oh yeah, guess that led to one of your favorite activities, snarfed: deleting code :)
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@jgmac1106
Because of the #IndiewebRing I discovered @schmarty's, whose hacking away at the tech for #IndieWeb WebRings Podcast We Have to Ask Podcast , Funny stuff. Nice concise format…that gets derailed nicely.Looks like I am going in deep? ... https://is.gd/dWKMz4
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