#indieweb 2018-08-05
2018-08-05 UTC
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@vilhalmer @jackyalcine you're more plugged into the IndieWeb space than I am, have you seen anyone making any progress on making ActivityPub play nice with MicroPub/Sub? (twitter.com/_/status/1025906237429436417)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ I don't know if the IndieWeb wiki (https://indieweb.org) has info on it but something like a conversion tool from ActivityStreams to mf2 (which iirc is more friendly for a MicroPub client) might exist. (twitter.com/_/status/1025907512984272896)
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[kevinmarks] What is granary?
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Loqi granary is a library and REST API that frees you from social network snowflake API and exposes the sweet social data foodstuff inside as HTML and JSON with microformats2, ActivityStreams, JSON Feed, Atom, XML, and more https://indieweb.org/granary
# @vilhalmer ↩️ @jackyalcine I did discover the relevant section on https://indieweb.org/bridge#ActivityPub, I'll keep digging. Thanks! (twitter.com/_/status/1025908262124826624)
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jgmac1106_ !tell jimpick I took a try at remixing your webpage to datpage you demoed at the summit: https://glitch.com/edit/#!/join/9e338a51-9101-4709-b422-a075b20ed1eb I tried to add the correct microformats for an hentry..but didn’t want to add a date input field..could be a really h-card generator for dat broswers
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vil hi all!
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# jgmac1106_ hello [vil]
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KartikPrabhu vil: wlecome
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# Loqi jimpick: jgmac1106_ left you a message 3 hours, 40 minutes ago: I took a try at remixing your webpage to datpage you demoed at the summit: https://glitch.com/edit/#!/join/9e338a51-9101-4709-b422-a075b20ed1eb I tried to add the correct microformats for an hentry..but didn’t want to add a date input field..could be a really h-card generator for dat broswers
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# beaky20 After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi beaky20 said: After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# beaky20 "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
# beaky20 Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
# beaky20 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC might be a good choice.
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# Melody\Concerto8 After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi Melody\Concerto8 said: After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Melody\Concerto8 "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
# Melody\Concerto8 Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
# Melody\Concerto8 Even christel, the freenode head of staff is actively peddling this scam https://twitter.com/christel/status/1025089889090654208
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@christel It’s live! What an incredible whirlwind journey it has been to be involved with @HNS thus far - I now look forward to seeing what the world makes of it and where the community takes this decentralised DNS and CA project! https://handshake.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1025089889090654208)
# Melody\Concerto8 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC might be a good choice.
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# Contessa After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi Contessa said: After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Contessa "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
# Contessa Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
# Contessa Even christel, the freenode head of staff is actively peddling this scam https://twitter.com/christel/status/1025089889090654208
# @christel It’s live! What an incredible whirlwind journey it has been to be involved with @HNS thus far - I now look forward to seeing what the world makes of it and where the community takes this decentralised DNS and CA project! https://handshake.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1025089889090654208)
# Contessa Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
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# vespaper After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi vespaper said: After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# vespaper "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
# vespaper Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
# vespaper Even christel, the freenode head of staff is actively peddling this scam https://twitter.com/christel/status/1025089889090654208
# @christel It’s live! What an incredible whirlwind journey it has been to be involved with @HNS thus far - I now look forward to seeing what the world makes of it and where the community takes this decentralised DNS and CA project! https://handshake.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1025089889090654208)
# vespaper Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
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# linuxmodder8 After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi linuxmodder8 said: After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# linuxmodder8 "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
# linuxmodder8 Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
# linuxmodder8 Even christel, the freenode head of staff is actively peddling this scam https://twitter.com/christel/status/1025089889090654208
# @christel It’s live! What an incredible whirlwind journey it has been to be involved with @HNS thus far - I now look forward to seeing what the world makes of it and where the community takes this decentralised DNS and CA project! https://handshake.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1025089889090654208)
# linuxmodder8 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
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# [Vanessa] I'm currently testing the new version of 10 Centuries, where several of my blogs are hosted. This new version has a lot of indieweb principles embedded, which is good. It has a social feed which is pulled from your own site. Early days, yet, but it seems to handle the basics nicely. Currently using a domain on 10C, but eventually it will support custom domains, so potentially my blogs hosted there will be indieweb-compatible. Also, Jason is hoping
# [Vanessa] self-hosted version available, which could well replace my WordPress site...
# [Vanessa] https://hazardwarning.10centuries.com
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# spacemud After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi spacemud said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# spacemud "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
# spacemud Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
# spacemud Even christel, the freenode head of staff is actively peddling this scam https://twitter.com/christel/status/1025089889090654208
# @christel It’s live! What an incredible whirlwind journey it has been to be involved with @HNS thus far - I now look forward to seeing what the world makes of it and where the community takes this decentralised DNS and CA project! https://handshake.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1025089889090654208)
# spacemud Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
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# jack327 After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi jack327 said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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# danielhuman After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi danielhuman said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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# Nazca After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
# Loqi Nazca said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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@jgmac1106 @toolness I just published my first dat webpage using Beaker Browser. You are right this is so cool. dat://b11c64ab2066a9a0f6cf21df21f20a2dd7be8d7646883456cc60be70a056be23/ I am hoping I correctly marked up an h-card with microformats. #IndieWeb (http://jgregorymcverry.com/5598-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1026060333218254848)
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@sl007 ↩️ 2ality fan is always happy to help. Also FOSDEM Brussels is a great place to be and become decentralized. We could listen for the upcoming Call for Participation https://fosdem.org/2018/news/2018-03-30-dates-fosdem-2019/ (twitter.com/_/status/1026070602220818433)
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petermolnar https://blog.ungleich.ch/en-us/cms/blog/2018/08/04/mozillas-new-dns-resolution-is-dangerous/ - this will bite us in a few years, people not having the slightest idea that now their browser and their machine are using different dns resolvers. Or did we step into the "future" when the browser IS the OS already? I desperately want the times back when reinstalling windows XP was a bare mininum knowledge for regularly using a PC.
# petermolnar sometimes if fees like Firefox is becoming WordPress, with the "Decisions, Not Options", and that slowly need addons or about:config hacks to disable functionality...
# petermolnar s/if/it
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# vil so something I'm thinking about is how to do webmentions with a static site, because I hate running databases. has anyone done this? seems like sending is pretty easy (could use a git hook or similar), but while I could receive them, I'm not sure if displaying them would be feasible.
# vil I was considering maybe a fancy directory listing configuration and just having the receiving script drop them as html in a directory determined by which page they're targeted at
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# vil could also use a standard template for pages I want to display them with an iframe or something? but iframes are kinda gross
# jgmac1106 https://indieweb.org/lazymention lazymention
# vil oh nice
# vil I'm not familiar enough with specs yet to get into the weeds :)
# jgmac1106 when you figure it out you can help me do this for https://edu522.netowrkedlearnigncollaborative.com
# vil my idea at the moment is a small server running to receive them which would generate a little html stub for each one and then automatically commit it (I really would like to have the whole site versioned)
# vil though this may not be a good idea because enough incoming mentions could prevent me from actually committing to my own site
# vil I appreciate the swiftonsecurity quote on the static site page, haha
# vil the file system is my favorite database
# vil that's the other thing I was considering, having a basic generator that just reads from markdown or whatever
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# vil hmmm, I could serve static pages that are generated, and then having incoming webmentions trigger a regeneration as well to include them on the page
# vil that might be a nice balance
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# vil jalcine: dang spam pushed you out of my znc scrollback, will do
# vil man, "most awesome IRC logs on the web" is not an exaggeration
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# vil Loqi++
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# jgmac1106 I am hoping I sent my first webmention badge: https://edu-522.glitch.me/module1badge.html
# Loqi [J. Gregory McVerry, PhD] Module 1: Who Am I Badge http://moneyflowcoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/badge.png
# vil neat
# jgmac1106 here it is on [chrisaldrich’ page: https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/31/indieweb-technology-for-online-pedagogy/
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# vil jgmac1106: thanks for all the links, I have enough to keep me busy for a while now :)
# vil hahaha
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# petermolnar !tell vil I migrated my site from wordpress into a static-ish version; in the end, right now, webmention receiving is outsourced to webmention.io, websub to superfeedr, syndication to brid.gy, fediverse connection to fed.brid.gy; webmentions checked/included on build time
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# petermolnar lol, back to the 90s
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# Loqi Morris is a self-hosted PHP service for storing Webmentions from webmention.io in a JSON format that static sites can use to render them without querying webmention.io on each build https://indieweb.org/Morris
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# petermolnar sknebel: 'using' is a strong word, I have it configured
# petermolnar ok, a bit of extension: I query webmention.io and store the mentions in yaml
# petermolnar so they become part of the site
# petermolnar and query only since the last comment
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# [jgmac1106] [schmarty] I was looking at all the storage option tutorials available on @glitch, I think the MondoDB could work...but that looks cool...I am just trying to think through what would be the building blocks we would have to put on Glitch for a static site but in a pedagogically sound way that embeds some basics
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# [jgmac1106] ....but Morris seems to be what I needed...well focus more than Morris....but this could be fun
# [jgmac1106] not even worried about my blog, but if I can take the microformats course template, set it up with something like Morris....I failed at RoR this morning...and then write the javascript for the badging module (wish will probably be hand coded for now)....that is the goal my final in class
# [jgmac1106] When is next HWC?
# Loqi Join us for an evening of IndieWeb personal site demos and discussions!
Any questions? Ask in the chatroom! More… https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
# [jgmac1106] Perfect, have my goal...Start in Europe in the day, fix in BMore, demo in SanFran
# [jgmac1106] If [dougbeal] is all alone in Seattle I will join him
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Thinking through hooks versus event callbacks" https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/08/05/5/article/
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# jgmac1106 Instead of doing what I was supposed to be dong I started building a form so one day I don’t have to handcode each badge: https://edu-522.glitch.me/badgeapp.html
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# [jgmac1106] Ping Dietrich not sure his chat name. He is on the team leading Mozilla's efforts.
# [jgmac1106] I just remix stuff I find on beaker browser till it works
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# [jgmac1106] Cool, I will make it an h card generator then, may need some help on the javascript for new form fields
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jmac (I'm thinking of what http://microformats.io is to MF2. (Yes, there is a webmention.io, but it's a specific service.) )
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# sknebel jmac: there's https://webmention.net/
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aaronpk it's index.php in this repo https://github.com/w3c/webmention
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# jmac Wooo, merged terrifying experimental Webmention-support branch of my SSG thing into its master branch https://github.com/jmacdotorg/plerd#webmention That only took five months.
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