#indieweb 2018-09-11

2018-09-11 UTC
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@mattmcmanus My micropub endpoint is now hit when I “like” an article in instapaper. I have an applet setup on IFTTT that uses their webhook action. Exciting! Next up, auto posting instapaper highlights. #indieweb #micropub https://mcmanus.io/notes/2018/09/11/my-micropub-endpoint-is-now-hit-when-i-like-an-article-in-instapaper (twitter.com/_/status/1039349734845112323)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel good morning!
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jeremycherfas Hi sknebel
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Loqi [indienews/de] New post: "Interview mit Aaron Parecki" https://notiz.blog/2015/07/23/interview-mit-aaron-parecki/
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Morning zegnat
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @cleverdevil Try and get an East Cost work trip lined up with @indiewebcamp NYC. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6567-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1039514931920494592)
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[dougbeal] 0/ indieweb
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Zegnat Hi [dougbeal] :)
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[dougbeal] When is next
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Loqi what
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[dougbeal] Loqi: the browser / wiki gets me 👅
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[dougbeal] I forgot to bring my IWC shirt to XOXO... 😞
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/09/11/5/photo/
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[keithjgrant] Does anybody have a site that returns the webmention endpoint in a link header rather than in the HTML? (webmention.rocks is blocked on this network 😕)
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Zegnat [keithjgrant], I think I specifically moved all of mine to HTML because some checkers weren’t looking at link headers yet :(
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Zegnat Also, probably a -dev question :)
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snarfed [keithjgrant]: indie map finds 678 sites that advertise their endpoint in an http header: https://bigquery.cloud.google.com/savedquery/464705913036:ad264286de8e48fea964f3a243ea07d7
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snarfed a few examples: readwriterespond.com, parempibisnes.withknown.com, www.bradkozlek.xyz
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swentel snarfed, do you sometimes update that indie map ?
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snarfed swentel: not yet, no
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snarfed takes some work. i could definitely consider it though, if i see enough actual usage
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swentel well, maybe twice a year would be enough already imo :)
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gRegorLove Good morning, #indieweb
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snarfed hey gRegorLove
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sknebel morning!
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gRegorLove Hey snarfed! Your name came up briefly at XOXO with Paul O when we were talking about Mastodon and Bridgy Fed a bit (and we were easily getting confused). "if only snarfed were here."
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snarfed heh. fun! and apologies. bridgy fed is a woefully incomplete UX. might do more harm than good overall :/
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gRegorLove I honestly have barely looked at it, so it's mostly ignorance on my part :)
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gRegorLove We had a really successful indieweb+mastodon meetup there on Friday. I'd guess about 30 people? I didn't even meet everyone and it was a busy coffeeshop. Good times.
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gRegorLove A few people from NY who didn't know about /2018/NYC, so maybe will get some more attendees
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aaronpk 65 people!
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snarfed wow, nice
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aaronpk looks like tantek took some pictures from before it got super packed
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aaronpk i forgot to post mine in time
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slvr Was this down in Portland OR?
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aaronpk yep
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slvr Let me know if you do another up in Seattle
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aaronpk keep an eye on https://indieweb.org/Events or sign up for the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week
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[jgmac1106] [gregorlove] do you want to ping the xoxo instance with the link?
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snarfed hey [jgmac1106], re your web site chronically not sending wms...a very alternative fallback approach could be to have telegraph send all your wms
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snarfed you could do it automatically by installing the websub plugin or setting up superfeedr to do it
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[jgmac1106] I have websub plugged in...that might work...I think I am just too heavy and I timeout a lot....the header issue has gotten better
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[jgmac1106] though that just brings me one step closer to walking away from WordPress...sounds so tasty so often....but feel like I need to eat at the buffet I serve
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snarfed [jgmac1106]: hmm your site is consistently responding in <=1s for me right now, so i kinda doubt timeouts are your problem
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[jgmac1106] yeah and I can build the exact same set up on a subdomain and everything works....will check out trying to use telegraph and websub, superfeedreader
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[jgmac1106] [snarfed] yeah I think it is when I publish...that can take a bit of time. [jackjamieson] was helpign me diagnose...still haven't gotten past my failed curl test...thanks for the idea...have something new to try now
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snarfed [jgmac1106]: welcome! you'd basically follow https://telegraph.p3k.io/superfeedr , but use your onw site's websub or a superfeedr publisher feed instead of superfeedr tracker feed
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[jgmac1106] well this is so cool for so many other reasons as well....shoudl be in the WordPress guides, thx again
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tantek__ is websub plumbing or is it a specific "brand name" for "real time updates"? I have mixed feelings about discussing websub in #indieweb vs #indieweb-dev
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@jgmac1106 Need to add to the @wordpress #indieweb guides. Get webmentions from sites that do not automatically send webmentions. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6590-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1039574163378397185)
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sknebel snarfed: that page you link describes finding foreign links through superfeedr, not generating outgoing webmentions?
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[jgmac1106] ohh we shoul;d have kicked to -dev awhile ago..but I just kept learnign mroe stuff
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[jgmac1106] oops will revise bookmark, was working quick...and had to work really hard not to drop what I was doing and set it up. Just wanted to stash it for later
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@jgmac1106 I am working on my application for a grant to fund #CheckOutMyDomain https://checkoutmydomain.glitch.com I want to measure network effects across community without personal data. Is this possible? #analytics #literacies #indieweb #credweb (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6602-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1039595332043194368)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ My theory is that the #checkoutmydomain will have a halo effect on the local web writ large with family members setting up subdomains. Businesses publishing on their own sites more. #indieweb #analytics #credweb Need to measure this (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6607-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1039597576520122368)
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[dougbeal] !tell slvr going to shoot for wayward coffee on 22 (assuming that is Wednesday )
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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slvr sep 22 is a saturday
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Loqi slvr: [dougbeal] left you a message 2 minutes ago: going to shoot for wayward coffee on 22 (assuming that is Wednesday )
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[dougbeal] When is next-hwc
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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[dougbeal] 19th, then
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@jgmac1106 interesting #indieweb #posse just tried to think out methods section of #CheckOutMyDomain when I click on the link fro the post and use that in the reply only two tweets thread, when I grab the link from Tweetdeck the entire thing threads (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6619-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1039605243103911936)
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slvr I can probably go
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ There are a few folks in the IndieWeb/WordPress communities like @schnarfed (FedBridgy) & @pfefferle (OStatus plugin) who are working on helping bridge websites and the Fediverse so that one could use their #WordPress install as an instance of [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2018/09/11/trying-mastodon-gary-pendergast/ (twitter.com/_/status/1039612940972777472)
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jhammons Hello.
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KartikPrabhu hi jhammons
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@oldaily Bridgy Fed #oldaily https://www.downes.ca/post/68579 I haven't been able to work with this product but it has opened up some new doors to look into. "Bridgy Fed lets you interact with federated social networks like Mastodon and Hubzilla from your IndieWeb site. (twitter.com/_/status/1039621407842492417)
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] I suspect that Stephen Downes ^^ has been following me pretty closely of late. Any ideas of how we can use this to IndieWeb for Education's benefit?
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[chrisaldrich] In fact, I'm now noticing that it looks like Downes is building his own implementation of Webmention from what I can see at https://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?post=68577
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dietricha aaronpk: hey! iirc you mentioned you were doing some single-purpose ActivityPub implementations... got a link to anything I can check out?
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aaronpk Haven't published the source yet, but I do have it working which I used for the xoxo shuttle bot this weekend!
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[schmarty] shuttle bot was ActivityPub?
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] yes he said he is adding them watching what you and I did in #Edu522 he has funding for a MOOC and is going to run through gRSShoper which now supports webmentions
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[jgmac1106] That MOOC will attract a good chunk of people
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aaronpk [schmarty]: the tracker itself was just a pile of code I wrote, but I also made a bot you could follow from Mastodon
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aaronpk That was actually a separate project kind of like Bridgy Fed that only handles publishing posts, no replies yet
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[schmarty] ah, neat! "publishing" including a profile where people could follow the bot and get notifications of new posts?
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aaronpk Yep!
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aaronpk I miiiight turn it into a service
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aaronpk I'd have to figure out a good way to handle replies first tho
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aaronpk Otherwise it's only the other half of bridgy fed
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dietricha aaronpk: ahh cool! lots of conversations w/ folks about extra-Mastodon uses of ActivityPub this last weekend...
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aaronpk heh, the only reason I did it was specifically because mastodon is popular and people are using it. The indieweb way of doing things is so much easier and more modular. but launching something and being able to say "since you're already using mastodon, just follow X" is compelling.
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slvr mastodon is pretty freakin neat
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slvr diaspora left me feeling pretty bleh, but this thing is sweet.
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tantek__ that's an interesting contrast slvr - are there any particular aspects, UI, features that you think make the difference?
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slvr yes, being easily able to see content from other instances
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tantek__ thought d* also supported remote follow
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aaronpk i would love to read a writeup comparing that aspect of both software. I think it's important to document that kind of thing as this space continues to evolve.
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slvr yeah, its hard to say how much of it was just network maturity and how much was luck.
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aaronpk i was never super familiar with the intricacies of the diaspora UX/UI, so it'd be great to learn more about that
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slvr I think the difference in target audience might have something to do with it too. diaspora seemed to target exfacebookers, and mastodon extwitterers. The twitterers are much more social.
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slvr like, trying to make friends actively.
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slvr I mean no one joined facebook to blog, but that's all the twitter people do all day.
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aaronpk i think you mean tweetstorm
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slvr Dunno, I'm pretty out of the loop. I'm trying to replace my personal use of reddit to share projects.
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tantek__ that's a great goal slvr
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@schmarty Facebook's tweet blips, a post-web era, and oops wow this episode is late! It's your < 10min update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for August 25th - 31st, 2018. https://martymcgui.re/2018/09/11/193037/ (twitter.com/_/status/1039658700682797063)
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jacky slvr: how else would you share them?
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jacky something like https://indieweb.xyz?
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jacky [schmarty]: do you post those on mastodon/ap-sites as well?
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slvr kinda, but getting hugged to death is a real concern
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jacky haha
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slvr so for reddit I did my writeups there and put images on imgur.
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slvr mastodon seems to do both well.
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slvr I am ASSUMING the image is only downloaded once for each pod that has users connect to my pod.
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jacky that re: single-download-per-instance is something I don't know