#indieweb 2018-09-16

2018-09-16 UTC
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[asuh]
what is pixelfed
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "pixelfed" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "pixelfed is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[asuh]
PixelFed is a federated social image sharing platform, similar to Instagram.
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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Loqi
[danielle~! :dani:] i like how replies add "re:" to the subject nowsoon the fediverse will have email forwards from your aunt. i'm so excited
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[jgmac1106]
I just use tweetdeck and follow hashtags not people. Following people gets useless Fter 200
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jujun23
Allаh is doiᥒg
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[jgmac1106]
Just doing? If I was God I would be straight rolling or tearing it up somewhere just doing sounds boring for a diety
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[jgmac1106]
!tell aaronpk the aperture logo on the WordPress authentication screen when using IndieAuth looks really low res
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@jgmac1106
@mrkdndvs If we could get 2-3 other people I would stay up really late or wake up really early to run one @indiewebcamp NYC session that lined up with Aussie time. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6849-2/)
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@scatmandan
Finally got around to refining and releasing an #opensource version of the @wordpress plugin I use to PESOS-copy my #geocaching logs to my blog. #indieweb https://danq.me/2018/09/16/importing-geocaching-logs-into-wordpress/
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[christophe]
Bonjour #indieweb@indieweb.me if you want help on admin or moderation.
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[christophe]
... if you want to help 🙂
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[jgmac1106]
Woe pretty cool [christophe] I would love to join. Can't commit to moderation currently but an indieweb instance is a good idea
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sknebel
did you have to use just "indieweb" as the domain? :/
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[jgmac1106]
as an FYI on the /leaders discussion there is an agenda item on "whether we should discourage indieweb.tld for any sites"
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[jgmac1106]
just joined
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[christophe]
Reading Leaders
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[jgmac1106]
maybe instead of trying to get webmentions working in all of mastodon we just get it working in yoru instance
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[christophe]
Ready to share access (Gandi DNS) - Move the domain - Write a small description. Just let me know
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[jgmac1106]
discussion just kind of started as other indieweb.tld came out and people get confused between indieweb.org, indieweb.xyz, indieweb.me...no resolution, just listed as agenda item
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[christophe]
Could we share the discussion directly on Mastodon with Hugo (Masto.host) in Portugal. Think we could find good solutions to help newcomers to share our indieweb values.
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[jgmac1106]
This is where I don't know Mastdon well. What does "Mastodon with Hugo (Masto.host) in Portugal mean?"
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[jgmac1106]
yeah but I need to set up auto toot to go to that instance and not social
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[christophe]
https://masto.host is a mastodon hosting provider - Hugo is driving this small business a very nice guy
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Loqi
fully managed Mastodon hosting how it works Masto.host was built from the ground up to make running a Mastodon instance easy. view details pricing For only €5/month you can have your own ...
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[jgmac1106]
what does that have to do with Hugo?
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[christophe]
Hugo is the guy 🙂 entrepreneur. nothing to do with GoHugo
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Loqi
Hugo Gameiro
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[jgmac1106]
yeah should send him the pages on how fed bridgy works and the links to concerns Mastodon folks had toward webmentions
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[jgmac1106]
What is Bridgy Fed?
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Loqi
Bridgy Fed connects IndieWeb sites with federated social networks like Mastodon and Hubzilla https://indieweb.org/Bridgy_Fed
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[jgmac1106]
What is Mastodon?
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Loqi
Mastodon is an open source implementation of a federated social network with several running instances that is compatible with GNU social https://indieweb.org/Mastodon
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[christophe]
Ok I’ll toot him
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[christophe]
[jgmac1106] merci what is your toot I’ll follow you ?
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[jgmac1106]
I haven't gotten Bridgy Fed up and running yet. I just autotoot and have jgmac1106@jgregorymcverry.com running]
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[jgmac1106]
or jgmac1106@indieweb.me
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[jgmac1106]
or jgmac1106@mastodon.social
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[christophe]
[jgmac1106] Merci Greg - FYI just tooted here. https://indieweb.me/@xtof/100735512774864956
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[christophe]
Merci et à bientôt
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[christophe]
I’ll look your glitch later. Time to nap.
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Loqi
[Christophe Ducamp ✓] @hugo just discussed w/ @jgmac1106 in the #indieweb irc channel about Mastodon and webmentions. https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/6074#comment-378452136I'm not a developer. Would you join us on indieweb.com to speak directly with jgmac ?yo...
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@FormationXtof
RT @jgmac1106@indieweb.me wion I take the opposite approach. I do my best to toot from my own website so I have them forever. I can't do this with replies yet as I haven't taken deep dive into fed bridgy https://indieweb.me/@jgmac1106/100735470370998894
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sknebel
sorry, got interrupted and had to leave the computer, but jgmac mentioned my main objection to the domain name: it causes confusion and suggests it's something "official"
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[jgmac1106]
and while we have no official organization we do publish a style guide and may add a suggested policy about tld,..
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[jgmac1106]
Blogger still seems the platform of chopice among K12 education, make sense given Chromebook and GAFE dominance
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sknebel
does Blogger integrate with the other Google stuff much? kind of surprised by that, but I guess I couldn't name what else they'd be using
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[christophe]
I hear your objection. I can redirect the domain name on indieweb.org... Will have to check with Hugo (masto.host) how to export the first (4 users) to another instance.
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[christophe]
Good use case.
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[jgmac1106]
no and its usually an exception to the schools policy. Probably just halo effect, seeing more weebly and wordpress now, could be more old school bloggers
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hugogameiro
hello is this thing working?
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[christophe]
@hugogameiro bonjour et bienvenue sur indieweb.org !
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hugogameiro
great, I thought I was stuck :)
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[christophe]
Let me introduce you to @hugogameiro Mastodon hoster in Portugal of my small instance labeled indieweb.me
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[christophe]
The point would be to open a discussion around indieweb tld + instance migration on another domain.
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hugogameiro
Well, related to migrating domain, currently Mastodon doesn't support domain changes as domain names are the only thing keeping links to remote instances. So, to change a domain name, you have to start a clean new instance and everyone needs to sign up there
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[christophe]
Merci Hugo. For the moment. Just changed the description : indieweb.me is a personal experiment and has nothing to see with indieweb.org (the official site). A banner is still black and could be dedicated to promote the official site. Thats my first reaction and suggestion. Ready to move elsewhere anyway. I would be sad to lose my first community seeding effort and break some urls. Awaiting “leaders” reactions.
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[christophe]
Bon dimanche.
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hugogameiro
As for other issues like Webmentions and stuff you would like to change on Mastodon, you can create your own fork and I can move you to a dedicated hosting plan (the only one where I can allow custom forks) and implement whatever changes you need/want.
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hugogameiro
I can help with stuff like this, saying what is or not possible but besides that I am very limited. I don't code and I don't have any say in features that Mastodon implements. I am not part of the development team, I just provide a service using the code they publish. So, if I can help in something specific let me know and I will try to help the best I can.
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sknebel
[christophe]: thanks for adding a note. Leaders meetup is in two weeks, hopefully we'll find an opinion there (which might just be that we ask for people to add a note). so I'd agree, don't move hastily now
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[jgmac1106]
well hello @hugogamerio that was really nice of you to stop by and provide some backgroun. [christophe] you didn't do anywhting wrong and we are all about figuring your own path, just something we have been thinking bout...a fork with working webmentions is a very interesting idea
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sknebel
sending webmentions could also be done with an outside tool, doesn't strictly need integration into Mastodon
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@FormationXtof
Une discussion est attendue avec les leaders de http://indieweb.org et @hugo@masto.pt (hébergeur de l'instance) pour savoir si nous pouvons conserver le domaine http://indieweb.me (acheté par mes soins chez Gandi pour expérimence (1/3)
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@FormationXtof
↩️ personnelle) Rejoignez-nous sur le canal irc #indieweb pour participer et apporter vos suggestions. Ajouté une mention dans la page de description sur le fait que ce site n'est pas officiel. La bannière reste ouverte à toutes vos suggestions de design. Bon dimanche à (2/3)
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sknebel
for receiving, not evne sure how the interface would look like ideally
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[christophe]
[jgmac1106] you are now admin on indieweb.me (I’m living in France it could help if you want to play with the UI admin or moderate during night !)
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[jgmac1106]
thx, will check out the admin feature
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@FormationXtof
Ravi d'accueillir Greg aka @jgmac1106@indieweb.me > https://jgregorymcverry.com/about-me-2/ Greg est membre de la communauté et partagera avec moi les clés de l'administration. Greg sera sûrement intéressé pour discuter avec @nhoizey@cafe.des-blogueurs.org sur (1/3)
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@FormationXtof
↩️ l'implémentation des webmentions sur l'instance. Sujet ouvert avec @hugo@masto.pt l'hébergeur de cette instance et qui nous a rejoint sur le canal officiel de discussion #indieweb @hugo@masto.pt nous a rappelé que Mastodon ne supporte pas (2/3)
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@FormationXtof
↩️ remote instances. So, to change a domain name, you have to start a clean new instance and everyone needs to sign up there Note : La discussion sur les tld indieweb reste ouverte sur le canal IRC #indieweb accessible https://indieweb.org (2/2)
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sknebel
sending webmentions could just be an external application following the internal timeline and sending WMs, that'd work with a stock mastodon
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[jgmac1106]
@sknebel its the threading of the toots i want to keep together, and be able to reply, gonna play with Fed Bridgy as my next itch after I finish rebuilding my feeds
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sknebel
sure, that's a different thing than mastodon sending WMs though
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@jgmac1106
@jeffjarvis talking with @t & @kevingmarks in  #indieweb chat  had idea. If you have any j students focusing on a tech beat or interested in web history should come cover @indiewebcamp NYC, give them access to meetings, set up interviews, etc (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6880-2/)
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@FormationXtof
Vendredi je donne une formation aux réseaux sociaux à des entrepreneurs (newbies sur les réseaux). Mes slides sont prêtes avec des comptes de test paramatrés sur les silos pour éviter de flooder ma time line. Pour ce qui concerne les recommandations #indieweb, je prévois (1/2)
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@FormationXtof
↩️ de faire essayer - Mastodon : si cette instance ne se fait pas démolir par les leaders indieweb ! - http://Micro.blog pour ceux qui seront prêts à sortir une carte bancaire. -Instagram w/ #ownyourgram ... Pas testé Pixelfed ? (2/2)
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@FormationXtof
Formation Réseaux Sociaux (suite) :flow: Pour ce qui concerne l'accompagnent éditorial et le SAV de paramétrage j'envisage de les accompagner sur des cartes Trello + Slack Faute de temps je n'envisage pas pour l'instant de proposer des alternatives plus #indieweb (1/2)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ I will add the details to https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC about remote attending as I learn them. Very different than other conference, not a passive stream. Remote attendees active participant and have a voice. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6895-2/)
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@fncll
I wonder if @sleslie @brlamb @jimgroom might have peeps up for remote participation in IndieWebCamp at the end of the month? https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC#Remote_Participation
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Well @jimgroom is buying us lunch. @ReclaimHosting, actually, as a proud sponsor of #IndieWebCamp NYC. Sorry haven’t figured out remote meal deliveries yet (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6899-2/)
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Zegnat
Ha! Let me know if you can make remote meal delivery work, [jgmac1106] :P
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@jgmac1106
@downes added more instructions for remote participation. https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC @aaronpk  to demo his social reader, hopefully you can show off gRSShopper during lighting round intros, best yet lets think web and learning in sessions (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6906-2/)
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@xtof_party
@nicolas2fr pour faire suite à mon message tél. je souhaiterais bien présenter #Mastodon en formation vendredi prochain. J'ai installé http://indieweb.me pour un test. Ton point de vue serait le bienvenu sur l'utilisabilité. Et la stratégie pour http://indieweb.org
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c0san0stra14
Allah іs doіng
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Kongaloosh
^ figure it's a long-shot but re-pinging here on Grace Hopper.
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Loqi
Sorry, you have to be listed on https://indieweb.org/irc-people before you can help retweet
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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dougbeal`
thanks gRegorLove, really need to get ZNC up and running :/
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Zegnat
... I thought I was the second one?
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Zegnat
Does it have a timeout?
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dougbeal`
too much time elapsed, I guess?
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@McKelvie
I see twitter is doing that thing of showing that people liked bad tweets instead of actually liking the quote tweet that dunks on them again. Great way to get peope to engage, good job
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://twitter.com/McKelvie/status/1040953016084508672?s=19" to the "See Also" section of /dunking https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51740&oldid=51392
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gRegorLove
What is dunking?
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Loqi
dunking is in social media a particular (ab)use of quote posts, popularized using Twitter's quote tweet feature, to quote a post with a comment intended to at a minimum refute the quoted post, though often to also mock or otherwise denigrate, sometimes in an attempt to appear wittier and garner more reactions (likes and reposts) https://indieweb.org/dunking
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gRegorLove
what is dunk?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "dunk" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "dunk is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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@McKelvie
I see twitter is doing that thing of showing that people liked bad tweets instead of actually liking the quote tweet that dunks on them again. Great way to get peope to engage, good job
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://twitter.com/McKelvie/status/1040953016084508672?s=19" to the "See Also" section of /dunking https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51742&oldid=51740
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@ChrisAldrich
↩️ Come to think of it, @emilybell, this may be something that you and your students might appreciate as well if you haven't come across it yet. There are only a handful of "tickets" left. Sponsors are covering food and snacks. https://boffosocko.com/2018/09/14/indiewebcamp-nyc-on-9-28-29/?replytocom=74509#respond
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@kevinmarks
↩️ come along to IndieWebCamp New York - people there will talk about the kind of tech culture you are asking for, and they can probably help you fix your blog too https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC
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GWG
[kevinmarks]: You should come too.
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sujeet6
Alⅼah is doing
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