#indieweb 2018-09-22

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@t Event: Homebrew Website Club SF! At: 2018-10-03 17:30 @MozSF RSVP: http://tantek.com/e/4wn1 (twitter.com/_/status/1043289675555917825)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "When basil has gone to seed: contemplative pesto" https://matienzo.org/2018/when-basil-has-gone-to-seed/
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[tantek] Not a mention of IndieWeb in that post
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[eddie] Yeah that’s strange
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aaronpk Accidental indienews syndication ? Wonder if there's something wrong with the wordpress plugin
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@FormationXtof Bonjour http://indieweb.me Bien dormi. J'aurai du temps ce weekend -dans la mesure du raisonnable- pour accueillir et aider quelques nouveaux venus. Je travaillerai sur debrief de ma formation d'hier (clientèle pro bâtiment) - Ménage sur les comptes de test pour (1/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1043374410424438787)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ sécuriser les identités. - Rédaction de propositions pour ébaucher un guide d'embarquement indieweb. Bon week end. xtof (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1043374411548524544)
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@garrettc It’s happening! #indiewebcamp https://t.co/CBKqAkxKVu (twitter.com/_/status/1043418783040319488)
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@jgmac1106 @johnjohnston  in my rss feeds or in the post itself? been using Indigenous reader. Which uses bridgy to syndicate to Twitter as as well. Cant send webmentions, kind of pointless, but I like to try and pretend all the #IndieWeb stuff works (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7229-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1043430479129661440)
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@edent At the @whiteoctober #indiewebcamp this weekend. Anyone know of a self-hosted review site? Like goodreads, imdb, etc but decentralised. (twitter.com/_/status/1043430768075329536)
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@scatmandan Listening to @garrettc kick us off at @indiewebcamp #oxford! #indieweb https://t.co/4Pn1yetifA (twitter.com/_/status/1043432018665775105)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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@jkphl ↩️ Ok, zum @IndieWebCampDE also. Es gab mal Überlegungen für ein gemeinsames #indieweb-Airbnb. Ich wollte dazu heute eine Nachricht an alle angemeldeten Teilnehmer schreiben und ggf. Leute zusammenführen. Wenn du dich über Tito anmeldest, solltest du dann im Verteiler sein! (twitter.com/_/status/1043442052531462144)
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@scatmandan Just discovered @openbenches (http://openbenches.org), which tags the locations of benches with memorial plaques. If I could #indieweb webmention my checkins to them, I'd totally promote a new GPS game based upon them. #indieweb #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/1043442245335244800)
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@nice2meatu ↩️ Die AirBnB Idee ist nicht verkehrt! Diesmal werd ich allerdings definitiv ins Hotel gehen. Arbeitgeber zahlt Reise- und Übernachtungskosten. =) Nächstes Mal dann Gruppenkuscheln. ❤️ (soll ja nich das letzte Mal sein, dass ich A: nach Nürnberg und B: zu nem @indiewebcamp komme) (twitter.com/_/status/1043443534618157056)
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@jkphl ↩️ @nice2meatu @tollwerk @IndieWebCampDE @indiewebcamp Na dann ist es eine einfache Entscheidung, ja! :) (twitter.com/_/status/1043443705682821121)
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@nice2meatu ↩️ Den hätte ich auch gerne noch mitgenommen, aber da hab ich akut nich das Geld für und nunja… ich wollt seit inzwischen 3 Jahren mal zu nem @indiewebcamp =) Die Gelegenheit ist günstig. (twitter.com/_/status/1043444428436922374)
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jeremycherfas Thinking I ought to book my place for Nurnberg. The airbnb I stayed in last time was really nice and quite near Tollwerk. Maybe I'll just go back there.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ How tweets look using Bridgy is very dependent on which of the three IndieWeb @WordPress themes you choose. Picked 2016-IndieWeb because it seemed to syndicate to Twitter the cleanest. They each have pluses and minuses. Have to weigh options (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7258-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1043447983390511105)
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sebsel Good morning indieweb :)
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[jgmac1106] morning
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Loqi greetings human
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jeremycherfas GOOD MORNING SEBSEL
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jeremycherfas Ooops. I'll be quieter now.
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sebsel lol, at least I'm awake now!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Threw you an @ mention in #IndieWeb chat to ping @pfefferle he would welcome a second eye and hands on SemPress, especially someone with your skill and disposition (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7266-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1043455930753531905)
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@scatmandan @edent here's where you ought to start with developing a webmention endpoint in PHP: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer (twitter.com/_/status/1043465203411767296)
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sknebel good morning!
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sknebel hi sebsel, haven't seen you around in a while!
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sebsel hi sknebel! no, I haven't been, but with the upcoming IWC in Nürnberg I thought it would be nice to work on my own site again for a bit :)
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sebsel Also, I declared bankruptcy on my reader. I literally have ten thousands of unread posts. Want to shut the polling down today, because this is just wasting resources.
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sebsel aaronpk++ for the software though. It's been running just fine for months without me looking at it :P
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Loqi aaronpk has 45 karma in this channel over the last year (310 in all channels)
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@IndieWebCampDE Heute in 4 Wochen ist es soweit: Das 2-tägige @indiewebcamp Nürnberg startet zum 3. Mal, wieder während der @nueww / in der @tollwerkstatt. Infos & Links gibt's beim Nürnberg Digital Festival https://nueww.de/festival/programm/2018/indiewebcamp-nuernberg-2018-41/ oder im Wiki. Wer Lust auf ein #indieweb-Airbnb hat, melde sich! (twitter.com/_/status/1043488386198188032)
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@FormationXtof En #dogfood pour ma famille... serai ravi d'étudier avec @aymeric_ducamp@indieweb.me comment exhumer quelques images d'archives de famille (stock vielles K7 mini DV). Rien ne presse. J'aimerais bien faire une planche d'images d'une croisière faite en Corse avec (1/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1043488866508791808)
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@jkphl Fancy hacking on your personal website? Planning to launch one? Join us during @nueww 2018 — we're welcoming a lot of international guests again! October 20th-21st #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1043489251692826624)
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@garrettc We're making things at the first #indiewebcamp Oxford https://polytechnic.co.uk/blog/2018/09/indiewebcamp-oxford-day-1 (twitter.com/_/status/1043492751046848512)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ #FuckFacebook et les vieux sur leurs tablettes pour avoir des nouvelles de leurs gosses) A reformuler par @b@indieweb.me à son retour de voyage. (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1043498677136809984)
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@mapkyca Sketching out federation ideas, and helping @edent with his first @withknown plugin #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/1043500013027053568)
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@edent And here it is! https://gitlab.com/edent/known-book-review-plugin #IndieWebCamp (twitter.com/_/status/1043509375955087362)
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cecemel hello
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cecemel Dunno whether it is allowed, but we have a job offering for a company which strongly adheres to the principles of indieweb. Are we allowed to share it here?
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[kevinmarks] Seems OK to me
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[jgmac1106] thx for asking
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cecemel thanks guys!
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cecemel here it is: https://redpencil.io/vacancies/vacancy-1.com.pdf
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cecemel sorry, wrong link: https://redpencil.io/vacancies/vacancy-1.pdf
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[kevinmarks] That's the same link
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swentel the .com is not in the second one, that one actually works
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@PaceUniversity Calling all hackers, engineers, computer science students, and techies! You’re invited to attend IndieWebCamp starting Friday, September 28, a weekend gathering where web creators hang out and brainstorm—without the corporate red tape. https://bit.ly/2peZXDr (twitter.com/_/status/1043545213812318208)
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doubleloop Oooh, Omnibear is very nice
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tantek__ nice pics from IWC Oxford!
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tantek__ !rt https://twitter.com/PaceUniversity/status/1043545213812318208
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Loqi Sorry, you have to be listed on https://indieweb.org/irc-people before you can help retweet
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tantek !rt https://twitter.com/PaceUniversity/status/1043545213812318208
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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sknebel !rt https://twitter.com/PaceUniversity/status/1043545213812318208
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Loqi Thanks sknebel and tantek! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1043570198060486656
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@FormationXtof Merci de m'arrêter si je vais trop loin. Pas certain que @pif@indieweb.me aka mon régulateur d'allure soit disponible.... Et @b@indieweb.me est en Autriche jusqu'à jeudi. Parti pour un "Vol de Nuit" afin de raffiner la description de la mission à (1/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1043580477028753409)
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/flysanityfly/status/1043418954339938304?s=09
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[Rose] Hi everyone!
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[Rose] I just booked a hotel that was pretty close and seems nice 😄
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[kiai] Hi [Rose]
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@FormationXtof aimerais déléguer mon fills @b@indieweb.me ou autre ? pour le recevoir ici comme un boss https://www.instagram.com/aymericducamp/ Je l'adore mais il m'a piqué mon casque :) (twitter.com/_/status/1043596692208025601)
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@FormationXtof Regardé @a@indieweb.me : envie de le foutre dehors / impoli https://www.instagram.com/adrien_vonfeld/ les lettres primaires seront réservées à mes proches... Un point c'est tout. (twitter.com/_/status/1043598056325664768)
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[kevinmarks] Hi Rose
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@FormationXtof Suspendu @a@indieweb.me : incapable de dire bonjour. Impoli. - compte @a@indieweb.me libéré. (twitter.com/_/status/1043599136430256128)
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[kevinmarks] This is something - antique memes http://www.ecns.cn/m/news/culture/2018-09-19/detail-ifyyehna1446070.shtml
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[kevinmarks] shitpic << Chinese antique meme collectors http://www.ecns.cn/m/news/culture/2018-09-19/detail-ifyyehna1446070.shtml
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Loqi ok, I added "Chinese antique meme collectors http://www.ecns.cn/m/news/culture/2018-09-19/detail-ifyyehna1446070.shtml" to a brand new "See Also" section of /shitpic https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51905&oldid=18248
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@FormationXtof Rêve de discuter avec mon ami #Antoine des règles d'attribution du compte @a@indieweb.me Un compte chéri. (twitter.com/_/status/1043600911262658560)
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jacky lol picking up from #-chat
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jacky I'm curious about the notion of audiences and private posts in the IndieWeb
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jacky and if anyone has working / active implementations today
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jacky hail the wiki
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jacky thank god people contribute to it lol
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sknebel it's something people have played with, but there's a bunch of open questions
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sknebel e.g. how it integrates with readers, webmentions (we've made an attempt at private webmentions, so you can privately reply or send a message to someone, and there's 3-4 implementations of those, but the approach we used isn't great), ...
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sknebel I think if people had private posts, it's for now been mostly "you can login at someones page, and then see private posts there"
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jacky that's the only solution that seems to make sense (re: logging into someone's page and viewing them)
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jacky I don't know too much about readers
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jacky but I don't know if they could provide the ACL that one would want with private posts
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jacky or "direct"
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jacky (there's a bit of a difference there)
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aaronpk the idea with the reader (which I am much closer to being able to actually build now) is that you basically need a way for the reader to "act" as you when fetching someone's home page or other feed of posts
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[eddie] Hi [Rose]! 👋
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jacky hmm
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jacky okay
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jacky let me quickly read over the wiki pages on readers
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jacky so I don't ask repetitive questions lol
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jacky could WebSub solve this?
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jacky it seems like it has the right bits to do it
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sknebel not solve (IMHO), but it's a good point how that'd play together
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sknebel and you could authenticate subscribtion requests
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jacky right
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sknebel and thus send notifications for private posts to only the intended receivers
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jacky hmm this feels like one of those problems you can't think so hard on; you have to get into the dirt of it to try it out
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sknebel yeah
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sknebel which is why now-ish with IndieAuth being properly written out and some more implementations, progress on readers, ... might be the time to start tackling it again
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sknebel (now-ish since I distinctively remember saying roughly the same thing a bunch of months ago :D)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Where Will the Current State of Blogging and Social Media Take Us?" https://jacky.wtf/weblog/where-will-social-media-blogging-take-us/
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jacky sknebel: lol that's cool