#indieweb 2018-09-21

2018-09-21 UTC
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tantek__ aaronpk, same, except for HWC POSSE event copies
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-21.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@HongPong lots of new features now in #indieweb module for #drupal 8 https://www.drupal.org/project/indieweb via @swentel aiming to get more into this again in a month or so (twitter.com/_/status/1043000064027705346)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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[nealthom] Good morning and hello. I am a brand new baby here.
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Zegnat Hi [nealthom] and welcome! :)
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Zegnat Do you already have a personal website?
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AkyRhO Good morning!
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Loqi good morning
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@felixplesoianu I want to like the #IndieWeb movement, but just like the #ActivityPub crowd, they're obsessed with the push model. It rubs me the wrong way. (twitter.com/_/status/1043053975522693120)
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[nealthom] I have a boring Wordpress site. I have been thinking about creating another with react and node and brainstorming ideas similar to indieweb without realizing it was a thing and I just stumbled on it this morning.
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Zegnat That happens a lot :) If you want, dump your brainstorms on the wiki. Still lots of things that need thinking about
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[nealthom] Cool. I will dig more into it later. It is my bed time :)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Which push model is this? Indieweb has multiple ways to work, but includes a couple of webhook interactions (websub and webmention) designed to save on polling. (twitter.com/_/status/1043060555660046336)
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sknebel good morning indieweb
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AkyRhO Quick question - anyone using alltogethernow or another indieweb reader here? I'd be curious to know how you manage to follow your favorite silos through that (eg. twitter, mastodon etc)?
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[jgmac1106] [AkyRhO] I am using Indigenous (Android) Mastodon accounts have an h-feed you should be able to follow those
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[jgmac1106] morning @sknebel
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vilhalmer morning
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AkyRhO I tried the iOS version of this, but it seems I can't add new channels straight from the app, right?
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[jgmac1106] no you add channels in aperture and they show up in your reader
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[jgmac1106] I think..I don't use alltogether
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AkyRhO is there an mobile app for aperture?
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AkyRhO or do I have to be on my laptop to add new feeds?
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[jgmac1106] its a website it will work omn mobil browsers
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[jgmac1106] https://aperture.p3k.io/ it is just in beta, your feeds only save for one week
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[jgmac1106] I am actually going now and adding all my feeds from https://jgregmcverry.com/following
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[jgmac1106] sorry https://jgregorymcverry.com/following
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Zegnat … I feek like I am missing part of the conversation there
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Zegnat Is the Slack bridge failing me?
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Zegnat Good morning sknebel, vilhalmer :)
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Zegnat Yep. Slack bridge failing
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Zegnat AkyRhO’s messages aren’t making it to IRC. But I can see them in the logs.
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sknebel AkyRhO: can you leave and rejoin the channel?
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sknebel +v got dropped for a bunch of people, and Loqi doesn't restore it...
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Zegnat Oh, is that it.
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sknebel mutters something about IRC op rights...
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Zegnat Haha
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AkyRhO Zegnat, i'm back :)
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Zegnat Yeay! :)
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AkyRhO Do you hear me now? ;)
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Zegnat I do
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Zegnat Sorry about that. But because of the spam waves Freenode has been having only people with voice (+v, often a + sign in IRC clients) can speak to others in the channel.
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AkyRhO sure
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AkyRhO no worries
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AkyRhO it's been a long time since I used IRC
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AkyRhO I forgot about that +v thing
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AkyRhO [jgmac1106], really like your WP template, is it a custom one?
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[jgmac1106] no, I am currently using @gwg's 2016 fork
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[jgmac1106] I added a page builder (I know slap my hand) to get it to look the way I want
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[jgmac1106] zenpress, sempress, or 2016-fork are recommended...only zenpress and sempress hooked into wp.org 2016.org you have to manually update from GitHub when @gwg changes it
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[jgmac1106] Independent Press, has some broken features and no on really working on it
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[jgmac1106] though it isn't native...meaning the microformats2 aren't in your html, you can now pretty much us the mf2 stream plugin, with any WordPress theme,....it;s kid of a cheat for now
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[jgmac1106] just don't have the mf2 stream the microformats plugin installed, and don't use either if you are using an IndieWeb approved theme
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AkyRhO well, as long as it works :)
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[jgmac1106] ....that is a deep philosophical question
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[jgmac1106] [nealthom] when using Slack don't use the threads, people in IRC don't see them, so @zegnat doesn't know you replied
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Zegnat Did I miss something again?
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Loqi misses something again too
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[jgmac1106] no, this happens with new Slack users, they need to be trined not to use threads
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Zegnat I was just gonna say, I think I had seen all the replies they gave me. Slack threads are flattened but still bridged, IIRC
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AkyRhO does anyone know how i can add custom kinds with wordpress Post Kinds? I only have articles, reply and note, i'd like to add bookmarks as well
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sknebel in the settings for the plugin you can enable various ones it ships with
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AkyRhO oh sorry
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AkyRhO i was looking in the "settings" not in the "indieweb" menu -_-
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GWG It only goes under settings if the Indieweb plugin isn't installed
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AkyRhO now is there a lising page available? like mysite.tld/kind/bookmark? (tried this one, 404)
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GWG There should be one if you have any
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GWG If it still isn't coming, you can go to settings->permalinks and save the page to refresh
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AkyRhO Nice! it worked
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AkyRhO thanks
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[jgmac1106] and [AkyRhO] we we a /wordpress channel for all things wordpress...may want to move convo that way
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@WebDevBev Very much looking forward to the #indiewebcamp this weekend - thanks to @garrettc for organising it and @HaybrookIT and @WhiteOctober for hosting :D been meaning to do Indie Web stuff for ages! (twitter.com/_/status/1043098588128137216)
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AkyRhO anyone else experiencing issues with indiepaper? It finally worked 2 days ago but now I got HTTP 400
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Zegnat Sorry, not a user. It doesn’t even seem to work with my test micropub :(
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[arnefismen] [AkyRhO] I get a 502
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Zegnat Uuh. Is the wiki down now too?! :o
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AkyRhO yep, 502 on indieweb.org
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[eddie] !tell AkyRho adding new channels and feeds is something I’m working on adding. I’m planning on having those be available in the next update of the app
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] !tell AkyRho and by next version of the app I mean Indigenous for iOS
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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AkyRhO [eddie], thanks! any idea of a release date? ;)
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Loqi AkyRhO: [eddie] left you a message 39 minutes ago: and by next version of the app I mean Indigenous for iOS
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Loqi AkyRhO: [eddie] left you a message 39 minutes ago: adding new channels and feeds is something I’m working on adding. I’m planning on having those be available in the next update of the app
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[eddie] AkyRhO: Unfortunately, not yet. I'm working on it a little bit at a time. When I get things more wrapped up I'll have a better idea of the timeline
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[grantcodes] !tell AkyRhO for following twitter feeds with microsub granary is great. You have to jump through a couple of hurdles but it generates great mf2 feeds. (They look great in Together at least :P)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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AkyRhO [grantcodes], awesome! Did you manage to get it work with Facebook as well?
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Loqi AkyRhO: [grantcodes] left you a message 15 minutes ago: for following twitter feeds with microsub granary is great. You have to jump through a couple of hurdles but it generates great mf2 feeds. (They look great in Together at least :P)
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[grantcodes] I did get something from facebook, but it wasn't very good
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swentel [grantcodes], do you use https://twitter-atom.appspot.com/ or something else to get twitter feeds ?
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[grantcodes] I ended up just using granary with a url like this to follow twitter lists:
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[grantcodes] https://granary.io/twitter/user/list/@app/?format=html&access_token_key=key&access_token_secret=secret&user_id=user
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swentel ah, interesting
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swentel sounds better than atom feed at least
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swentel access token is from an app you created in twitter itself I presume ?
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[grantcodes] Don't think so. You can start at granary.io and login to your twitter and it will fill those in for you
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swentel oh right
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swentel you can do a connection there
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swentel right, much better!
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swentel been wanting to kill my twitter client
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swentel almost have everything I need in the indigenous client :)
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[grantcodes] Oh yeah, I've not used mine in months
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[grantcodes] Just need your site to syndicate to twitter and then you're good
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swentel yeah, that's ok already
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[kiai] hello indieweb
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[kiai] Does anyone know a way to count words of highlighted text through the console of Chrome DevTools?
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[grantcodes] Yeah swentel, to get full twitter parity it's good to render refs of like-of, repost-of, in-reply-to and quotation-of
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[grantcodes] Together does that now, so never feel I'm missing anything from twitter apart from threads
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swentel hmm, I can't added those in aperture .. need to rethink this a bit
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swentel or allow indigenous to follow custom channels/feeds or so hmmmm
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swentel hmmm, wanted to test this with together, but it doesn't authenticate me :/
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gRegorLove Good morning, #indieweb
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sknebel good morning!
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[eddie] Good morning!
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GWG Hi
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@EatPodcast ↩️ If you are into IRC (bridged with Slack) there are many helpful people in the #indieweb Wordpress channel. Manual is fine for sending but the plugins make it a lot more effective to receive. (twitter.com/_/status/1043177560882991104)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-21.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-21.html
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tantek__ looks good! thanks Loqi!
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-21.html https://t.co/H09EeYwsh1 (twitter.com/_/status/1043262367063134209)
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@t ↩️ lots going on in the #indieweb world for sure! For brief weekly summaries to “keep up to date”, see the newsletter: https://indieweb.org/this-week-in-the-indieweb and/or podcast: https://martymcgui.re/podcasts/indieweb/ The IRC #indieweb-wordpress folks are very helpful too! http://tantek.com/t4wa2 (twitter.com/_/status/1043272649202446337)
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[kevinmarks] That London venue looks like a gratuitous establishing shot for a TV show
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tantek__ [kevinmarks]: which London venue?
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[kevinmarks] The one in the newsletter
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tantek__ [kevinmarks]: heh that's ProvenDough! I've been there - it's a nice cafe
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[kevinmarks] Power, WiFi, table space, food, beer - very good