#indieweb 2018-09-20

2018-09-20 UTC
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dougbeal Would you check-in to an event?
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dougbeal RSVP, checkin, write-up?
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gRegorLove You can check-in to events on Swarm.
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gRegorLove What is checkin?
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Loqi A checkin is the action of checking into a location and sharing that information https://indieweb.org/checkin
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gRegorLove e.g. I checked in to XOXO 2018 instead of just checking into the coliseum
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dougbeal yeah, I was thinking more in relation to indie events
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gRegorLove I think I would usually prefer to check in to the venue
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gRegorLove A checkin could include a link to the indie event and webmention it
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tantek__ right, Swarm supports event as a property of a check-in to a venue
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tantek__ rather than checking into an event directly
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tantek__ I'm actually curious how /OwnYourSwarm handles those
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tantek__ !tell aaronpk does /OwnYourSwarm support event information along with a checkin? E.g. when you check-in to a movie theater and pick a specific movie, or check-in to a concert venue and pick a specific band? Didn't see anything about that on https://ownyourswarm.p3k.io/docs
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] What is gRSShopper?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "gRSShopper" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "gRSShopper is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] gRSShopper is a personal web environment that combines resource aggregation, a personal dataspace, and personal publishing. It allows you to organize your online content any way you want to, to import content - your own or others' - from remote sites, to remix and repurpose it, and to distribute it as RSS, web pages, JSON data, or RSS feeds.
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Loqi ok
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@SteveStreza First stop tonight, the Wayward Coffeehouse for the Homebrew Website Club, working on adding Micropub-powered photo posts to my website! https://indieweb.org/events/2018-09-19-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/1042571398206545920)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Yeah been awhile. Good to see you around again. You should come check out all the #IndieWeb stuff so you can participate in Twitter chats from your own domain. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7110-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042573994237603840)
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tantek__ hello from HWC SF quiet writing hour
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[jgmac1106] here is why I like webmention for badges: https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-spring2018/blob/master/final-documents/open-badges-are-verifiable-credentials.pdf a webmention version of the same paper would be 2-e paragraphs long tops
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@jgmac1106 For #WorldWideWebnesday I am sharing the definition of the commonplave book, wich you should do from your website: https://indieweb.org/commonplace_book Also tooting and tweeting from my own website….because it’s #WorldWideWebnesday (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7114-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042577453703725057)
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gRegorLove I was referring to the events-as-venues on Swarm. "XOXO Festival" appears to be listed as a venue, which I checked into. Slightly different than the checkin to a venue then select the event.
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gRegorLove I don't think I tried checking into VMC to see if I could then select XOXO, though
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[jgmac1106] If you are on a mastodon instance somebody started up #WorldWideWebnesday https://weirder.earth/@onethousandtwentyfour/100754324829473802 hop on board the fun
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Loqi [Kyɛbɛgɔ] #WorldWideWebnesday Rules:🙆🏻‍♀️🆗: + blogposts + handcrafted HTML sites + old GeoCities pages + webrings + webzines🙅🏻‍♀️🆖: + Medium/Tumblr posts + Toot/tweet threads + things published in formal publications (Slate, Times...
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tantek__ heh
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tantek__ [jgmac1106]: "webmention for badges" is still #indieweb-dev level discussions IMO, since we still have to figure out how to build it :)
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tantek__ gRegorLove: you're right that events-as-venues are often created by users on Swarm
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tantek__ other examples I've seen (and checked into) : SF Marathon, Bay to Breakers
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tantek__ though even those could be interpreted as venues meaning "starting line" since their starting lines are fairly consistent year to year
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gRegorLove Interesting that in my checkin timeline, Swarm does say "XOXO Festival at VMC" but when I click through to the details it doesn't show anything about VMC. Must recognize the address or proximity
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tantek__ it's like a venue that's only "open" a few hours for one day a year :)
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tantek__ gRegorLove: Swarm has the notion of nested venues. when you create a venue you are asked if it is inside another venue and you can pick one
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gRegorLove ahh, didn't know that
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tantek__ so whoever created it (aaronpk likely :) did so
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gRegorLove Makes sense with airports and stuff; i've seen the "lots of stuff going on inside" message on those.
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tantek__ that's exactly what that's from
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tantek__ which raises another question, does OwnYourSwarm model venues inside venues
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tantek__ which is borderline dev
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gRegorLove Speaking of, I thought it was funny when aaronpk checked into this small airport, but Swarm still said there's a lot going on inside: https://aaronparecki.com/2018/09/18/14/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] this airport is so smol https://aaronparecki.com/2018/09/18/14/photo.jpg
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tantek__ I wonder how many sub-venues there need to be for swarm to consider it "a lot going on inside"
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tantek__ summarizing topics for HWC SF.
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tantek__ IWC Oxford, IWC NYC coming up
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tantek__ questions about will there be an IWC DC?
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tantek__ discussing undo in posting UIs
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@murderofcrows Wassup – Homebrew Website Club – Seattle Area – September 19th: https://crw.moe/b/jN (twitter.com/_/status/1042595762289422337)
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tantek__ discussing adding micropub support to a new CMS instead of or before implementing more UI
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tantek__ now discussing indieweb readers
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tantek__ using an iPod touch as a minimal non-SPOF device for indieweb posting
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tantek__ and comms
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tantek__ question asked, if you use Google Hangouts to make a phone call, can Google listen to your phone call?
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tantek__ in short, technically they can, and even record them. and since phone calls are by default unencrypted, anyone from one end of a phone call to the routing to the other end can record a phone call
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tantek__ took a photo and wrapping up!
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@amirad ↩️ @jgmac1106 @indiewebcamp Will check it out! Thanks for putting it on my radar Greg! (twitter.com/_/status/1042606185357225984)
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aaronpk gRegorLove: I did in fact create the xoxo venue and said that it was inside VMC :)
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek__ left you a message 2 hours, 31 minutes ago: does /OwnYourSwarm support event information along with a checkin? E.g. when you check-in to a movie theater and pick a specific movie, or check-in to a concert venue and pick a specific band? Didn't see anything about that on https://ownyourswarm.p3k.io/docs
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aaronpk funny you should ask... I just checked in to a movie on swarm a couple hours ago
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aaronpk that's been an outstanding issue for a while https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourSwarm/issues/23
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Loqi [aaronpk] #23 Include event info in JSON posts
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aaronpk still needs some dev work
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aaronpk with microformats
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@FormationXtof Réinitialisé le mot de passe pour 2 pères de famille restés à la porte et visibles dans la console d'admin accessible sur https://indieweb.me/admin/dashboard MAJ détails http://ducamp.me/2018-263#Serrurerie_Registration #now (twitter.com/_/status/1042637856814985216)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ votre vie" http://ducamp.me/LifeCamp Rêve d'un LifeCamp en fin d'année pour les ducamp et familles amies. Un projet que j'aimerais raffiner w/ @b@indieweb.me and @pif@indieweb.me pour ouvrir sur des saveurs marines. (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042654613160128513)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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marcusr hi!
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AkyRhO @jackjamieson : I can't, if I try to create a new channel I receive a notification error. Couldn't create channel or something like this
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[arnefismen] Hi @marcusr!
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marcusr @arnefismen sup :)
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AkyRhO Update from yesterday : after scrapping this channel, i discovered https://micropub.rocks - it seems my problem comes from wp-indieauth that repries with 401 Unauthorized - if anyone has an idea, i'll gladly hear it
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tantek__ Hey AkyRhO - try asking in #indieweb-wordpress, there's likely someone there that can help with wp-indieauth!
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Zegnat One of these days, some developer is going to lose their mind over this. AkyRhO, this may be the solution to your problem if it is WordPress giving 401 errors: https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/#faq-header
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cweiske ah, http and auth headers. what a fun.
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cweiske s/http/apache, cgi, php /
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Zegnat If that doesn’t solve it for you, follow tantek__’s advise and check in with the fine folks in #indieweb-wordpress :)
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Zegnat cweiske, yeah, I’d love to talk with whoever thought this behaviour was a goodidea, haha
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Zegnat Filed an issue to get that fix from the Micropub plugin also documented on the IndieAuth plugin
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AkyRhO @Zegnat : YEAH! thank you so much, it worked! https://cedric.io/2018/09/20/860/
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Loqi [cedric] Micropub test of creating a basic h-entry
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AkyRhO You sir, deserve a medal
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Zegnat As well do all the other thousands of people who have tripped on this before and had to find it. Haha
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AkyRhO Sure
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Zegnat I didn’t think this could be it, because you were able to login to Aperture... But maybe that never touched your token endpoint.
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AkyRhO anyway, thank you :)
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Zegnat Feel free to add a 👍 on https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieauth/issues/111 so we can try and get this more visible in the different WordPress plugins
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Loqi [Zegnat] #111 Document the Authorization header fix in the README
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AkyRhO Done
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@bkastl Check ☑️ #verified #indieweb #mastodon https://t.co/WlUJHMRcXZ (twitter.com/_/status/1042708014178811904)
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tantek__ Zegnat++
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Loqi Zegnat has 37 karma in this channel over the last year (153 in all channels)
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swentel ah I still need to figure out how to get posting working on there from my site through fed.bridgy
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@producedbytobi Spank your ears kiddies! @producedbytobi and @_chris_leon are bringing the very best in new #Independentmusic w/ our International band of music making troublemakers from all across the Indieweb! ..we will rock you! https://youtu.be/-tJYN-eG1zk #musichouruk (twitter.com/_/status/1042711319244431360)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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aaronpk Good morning
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jeremycherfas Where are you aaronpk that you can reply at this time.
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aaronpk About to fly back to Portland from Milwaukee
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2018/09/20/1/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Milwaukee to Chicago, Chicago to Portland https://aaronparecki.com/2018/09/20/1/map.png
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jeremycherfas Happy trails.
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@jgmac1106 Thank you to @johnJohnston for building me the flickrfaves plugin so I can display images I use on my website with proper attribution. We need to h/t the artist who freely share their work in the commons http://jgregorymcverry.com/flickr-images/ #unboundeq #IndieWeb (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7129-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042731383322537985)
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jeremycherfas Nice idea and presentation; I wonder why some of the tiles show no picture, although the credit and link appear on hover.
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[jgmac1106] I don't know..and sometimes it is the picture right next to it....
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[jgmac1106] flickr deprecated their flash slideshows and I had a cc css attribution animation project. [johnjohnston] took the idea and ran with it to make me this
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[jgmac1106] the links to the imgs work...they just aren't all displaying..
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@jgmac1106 @tomliamlynch Are you going to make it to #IndieWebCamp NYC? https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7136-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042763540283777024)
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@nice2meatu @jkphl Basically, if my wife won't need me on that specific weekend, I can finally go to my first @indiewebcamp (in Nürnberg in October)! ❤️ #nueww That would be soooo cool. (twitter.com/_/status/1042783228518707201)
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@jkphl ↩️ @nice2meatu @indiewebcamp Woohoo! Let me know if I can do something to convince her! ;) (twitter.com/_/status/1042786392898715648)
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@jkphl ↩️ @nice2meatu @indiewebcamp Haha, hmmm ... ;) (twitter.com/_/status/1042787590485823488)
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@FormationXtof 11 principes de design qui seront mis en place dans ce groupe pour les créatifs https://indieweb.org/principles-fr Commençons doucement. Par le 11 : have fun. Poilons-nous. #design-principles (twitter.com/_/status/1042788057655664640)
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@nice2meatu ↩️ @jkphl @indiewebcamp Or you could look after our two daughters… choose wisely! (twitter.com/_/status/1042788407724965888)
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@jkphl ↩️ @nice2meatu @indiewebcamp How old are they? Why not bring them all with you — pretty sure my daughter would entertain them quite well. ;) (twitter.com/_/status/1042789314692829185)
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[tantek] When people with their own 20ish year old websites compete on a silo 😂😂 https://twitter.com/zeldman/status/1042741642569179137
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@zeldman @snookca @t @miekd @SwarmApp Tantek and I partake in a weekly Swarm challenge death-match. Nobody else who uses @SwarmApp realizes it is a serious competitive game. If not for @t ’s heat, I would be far less rigorous about checking in. But that guy is always on my tail! (twitter.com/_/status/1042741642569179137)
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benwerd Has everyone seen text.npr.org? It's brilliant
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@motters IndieWeb https://video.jacky.wtf/videos/watch/61ff92e2-23b8-4484-963d-6eec0e99f087 (twitter.com/_/status/1042834141694181376)
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doubleloop I've been posting videos that I've watched as 'watch' posts (e.g. https://doubleloop.net/2018/09/20/3600/)
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Loqi [Neil Mather] Excited to see latest developments in the Indieweb, particular the progress on indieweb readers.
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doubleloop But reading through https://indieweb.org/watch it seems more focused on TV shows, films, theatre, etc
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doubleloop Does it seem like the right post type for short videos off of e.g. youtube?
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snarfed doubleloop: still the right post type, yes
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doubleloop Great, thanks snarfed
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gRegorLove We'd welcome your example(s) listed on that page too, doubleloop
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gRegorLove watch, listen, read posts are pretty young so always good to see how others are doing it
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doubleloop gRegorLove, cool, I'll add my example in
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[jgmac1106] @doubleloop when [chrisaldrich] was participating in a class with me he would do a watch post kind after each assigned video. That's a quick check in with students I would like to see int he future
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@FormationXtof Rêverais de mette ça dans la mission http://indieweb.me nous entraider ? (twitter.com/_/status/1042860490823630848)
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@eschnou The future is here. Decentralized twitter on the blockchain, backed by ETH and IPFS. Uncensorable and permanent. I'm thrilled ! https://peepeth.com/eschnou #indieweb #fedsocweb (twitter.com/_/status/1042872152603680768)
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@ChrisAldrich Have you downloaded your personal memories from @Path before they're gone? Don't let yet another in a long line of #sitedeaths take your data from you. #IndieWeb #incrediblejourney https://boffosocko.com/2018/09/20/the-last-goodbye-path-simple-personal-social-networking/ (twitter.com/_/status/1042878589203447808)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ samedi. Plein de baisers P.S. Confiant dans la mission et de l'entraide "interfamiliale". @pif@indieweb.me est un marin... Mon régulateur d'allure. Je veux rester dans la créativité du réseau mondial http://indieweb.org (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042883601375801344)
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aaronpk wow I haven't posted anything to facebook since july
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GWG Since autopost went away?
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aaronpk guess so
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@FormationXtof Nettoyé mes traces et erreurs. Merci merci à tous.. j'apprends de mes erreurs. #dogfood Enchanté d'être invité à me reposer en Lozère chez mon mentor #Mastodon. Pour les nouveaux arrivants, souvenons-nous que la mission http://indieweb.me reste ouverte : (1/3) (twitter.com/_/status/1042912798618017794)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ d'inviter nos enfants à occuper leurs propres domaines. Dernier stimuli pour les oiseaux de nuit glané via @chrisaldrich@mastodon.social (membre #indieweb) et à lire calmement ce weekend https://jeffmueller.net/2018/08/30/wil-wheaton-leaves-mastodon/ zzz. belle (2/3) (twitter.com/_/status/1042912800031498240)
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Guest65853 !tell benwerd that is very cool - the text only NPR. Reminds me of text-only /CNN ! http://lite.cnn.io/en
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Guest65853 oops
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