#indieweb 2018-09-19

2018-09-19 UTC
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ If any #edci336 students wanted to learn more about the #IndieWeb or learn about learning in open source spaces happy to talk or introduce you to spaces to learn more. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7053-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042207849777115137)
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Gargron a rel="me" with a href that redirects, can it be treated just like if the href was direct?
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Gargron intuitively i would say yes
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tantek__ Gargron: yes, with the caveat that https -> http redirects should be disallowed.
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tantek__ the point being, if someone took the effort to specify an https URL as their other identity, then they have an expectation that https will be used to retrieve/verify that
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aaronpk not exactly rel=me, but very much related, the indieauth spec talks a lot about specific redirect handling in user's identity URLs https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#redirect-examples
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tantek__ aaronpk interesting! question about 4.1.1.5 Temporary Redirect to a Different Domain then, how/why does the protocol get upgraded from http to https?
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tantek__ from "the client initially transforms that to http://username.example/" to "the authorization endpoint will return a me value of https://username.example/"
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tantek__ (sorry this is #indieweb-dev, feel free to answer there)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ L'idée du petit carnet + stylo NASA a bien plu @b@indieweb.me. Impatient d'accueillir a qui vit à l'étranger ;) (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042254492983422977)
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@FormationXtof Pas relu shirky mais j'aimerais en parler avec a et @b@indieweb.me pour aider à rédiger notre mission... Besoin d'aide pour la formulation Ferme Indieweb : encourager les gens à se barrer d'ici. Métayage vs fermier "propriétaire de son domaine" Je rêve (1/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042259504811790337)
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@jackysee Follow the indieweb principle: post elsewhere, syndicate own site. Elsewhere can be twitter/ig... https://perkeep.org/doc/overview (twitter.com/_/status/1042268325609463808)
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jacky post elsewhere, syndicate own site
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jacky PESOS
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[kevinmarks] how have I never seen this before? It's great https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Aaron_Swartz_s_A_Programmable_Web_An_Unfinished_Work.pdf
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[kevinmarks] “instead of spending time building things, they’ve convinced people interested in these ideas that the first thing we need to do is write standards. (To engineers, this is absurd from the start—standards are things you write after you’ve got something working, not before!)”
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[kevinmarks] HTML version: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~hendler/ProgrammableWebSwartz2009.html
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel good morning!
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jeremycherfas Taking a break from array wrangling. Back in a bit.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #IndieWeb  decentralized group of bloggers, hackers, developers, educators who want to rethink  web. Believe best way to protect folks  and web is to encourage your own sites and to network through open standards and not commercial silos (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7057-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042367712406790144)
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@sl007 ↩️ Fully agree, @lyssaslounge : And bundle/amplify the efforts of W3C people, indieweb community and civil rights movements ! This would mean much more to me than "VR" … Let us speak up at the EU council, e.g. next FOSDEM, how about sponsoring a series of indieweb hackathons? etc. (twitter.com/_/status/1042368488478859265)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ You can learn more at https://indieweb.org or https://indieweb.org/education . I came to it as I want educators openly sharing our courses and believe plain html is the easiest to make course work universal. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7060-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042369129540476930)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Been teaching using  #IndieWeb stack since 2015 without understanding how it all worked. So I spent some time learning microformats this summer, and realized, “This is all in the html, this is how it should be, and so easy even I can do it.” (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7064-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042370925738508289)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ If any #edci336 students or you want to learn more you can remote into #IndieWebCamp NYC Sept 228-29. https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC your students can bring their sites and tune them up with some of the best developers and designers (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7068-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042372205278097409)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Dont  have anyone running a Homebrew Website Club near Victoria. If #edc336  wanted to attend a bi-weekly meetup about building personal sites remoting into Seattle or SanFran best option. If someone wanted to start a HWC as a project be cool (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7070-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042373517877096448)
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@jkphl ↩️ Ich hab Erlaubnis von meiner Regierung, ich dürfte heute. ;) Wenn es auch gilt, dass ich etwas für das @indiewebcamp Berlin mache dann? ^^ (twitter.com/_/status/1042375159343194114)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ que je déléguerai plus tard à des devs compétents. URL idéposé ici https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1041356312565743616 Merci @KevinMarks@xoxo.zone Pour action #TiretPlus "dev <- Migration instance http://indieweb.me" (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042399238494117888)
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AkyRhO Hi all! I'm an IndieWeb newbie, and i'd like some help. I tried to use indiepaper.io but it raises a HTTP 400 when I try to save a bookmark. Everything seems fine on my blog, and I could not find any mention of this problem anywhere on the net. Thanks per advance
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sknebel does it give you any more detailed error than that?
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@FormationXtof Je serai ravi de tester un scénario d'accueil avec olivier attendu sur http://indieweb.me pour imaginer les relations qu'il tient à distance avec son fils (Polytechnique Lausanne). Que lui proposer pour remplacer WhatsApp ? (twitter.com/_/status/1042419417508798467)
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@FormationXtof Ce que j'ai retenu et qui me semble communicable -sous son contrôle- de notre dîner avec @b@indieweb.me hier soir chez Prout Quelques insights extraits de mon petit carnet orange qui peuvent être proposés comme ébauche de réflexion sur la future mission de ce (1/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042419419262050305)
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@FormationXtof Briefé @b@indieweb.me sur projet étoile #bipolaire. Elle trouve ça génial. Idée retenue : trouver un nom pour baptiser le #bateau qui ne s'appellera pas "étoile bipolaire". (twitter.com/_/status/1042419421807992833)
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sknebel 33 minutes until vHWC
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-09-19 5:30pm CEST (#6374)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ livres en cours (je serai ravi de vous les passer) Kindle : - Enough - Patrick Rhone - MinimalMac - PR pour aider @b@indieweb.me Papier - Le pouvoir du moment présent (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042429045797838848)
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@jasongreen ↩️ https://indieweb.org It diverges from the usual DOOO when you set up web sign in (https://indieweb.org/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain) See also https://www.boffosocko.com/2017/07/28/an-introduction-to-the-indieweb/ (Chris Aldrich) or http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/04/25/indiewebcamps_create_tools_for_a_new_internet.html (Dan Gillmor) (twitter.com/_/status/1042429678269739008)
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@jgmac1106 #IndieWeb Projects on @Glitch: http://jgregorymcverry.com/indieweb-projects-on-glitch/ https://t.co/uaROBQglyT (twitter.com/_/status/1042431951393751040)
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AkyRhO @sknebel "Failed to publish to specified endpoint."
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sknebel which setup method did you use? the login or the manual entry for the bookmarklet?
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AkyRhO the js bookmarklet
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AkyRhO I'll try a manual entry
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sknebel the login should be more reliable, less manual mistakes to make there I'd think
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AkyRhO ok now I realize i'm not sure what you're talking about -_-
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sknebel you did login with your website on https://www.indiepaper.io/ ?
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AkyRhO yes i did
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sknebel good
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AkyRhO after that i saved the JS bookmark that was given to me
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AkyRhO i tried it and nothing happened
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AkyRhO so i checked the network tool only to discover that I got a HTTP 400 on the POST reqeuest
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AkyRhO request*
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@xtof_party Amorçage en cours d'une mission #indieweb sur http://indieweb.me Une ferme #indieweb encourageant ses enfants à partir. Motorisation Mastodon Politique de modération #softsecurity Serais ravi d'échanger avec des admin ou dir. d'instances @xtof@indieweb.me (twitter.com/_/status/1042434603229818880)
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sknebel hm, not sure I can help you debug that further then, hopefully cleverdevil can take a look later
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Loqi Countdown set by sknebel on 2018-09-19 at 4:57pm CEST
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Loqi vHWC
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[jgmac1106] How long until vHWC?
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AkyRhO @sknebel thanks :)
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Zegnat [jgmac1106], -6 minutes
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@drupal8modules New #alpha version released for #drupal8 #module indieweb (8.x-1.0-alpha13). More info: https://www.drupal.org/project/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1042438298407497731)
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AkyRhO @sknebel i think the problem is on my end - I wanted to try alltogethernow.io and I've got issue to create content there as well - I can't even create a new channel
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Zegnat If both Together and IndiePaper are having issues maybe the problem lies with the Microsub server. Are you using Aperture?
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AkyRhO yes, through the wordpress plugin
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Zegnat Are you able to login on https://aperture.p3k.io/login ? I don’t know how to establish that Aperture is working ... Maybe one of the WP people does (paging GWG)
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@FormationXtof Réessayé de passer la porte de cette instance. Déconnexion puis tentative d'entrer avec un nom d'utilisateur @c@indieweb.me Bug : connu. Perdu mot de passe. Et l'#UX de réinitailisation toujours aussi pourrie. J'abandonne pour ce soir. #TiretPlus : (1/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042445669955383297)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ trouver une solution avec Hugo et les nouveaux venus pour aider à implémenter https://indieauth.com/ Je serai ravi que les membres IndieWeb puissent se connecter ici avec leurs domaines. (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1042445671163355137)
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AkyRhO @Zegnat yes I'm able to login
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Zegnat If you can login there, and Aperture is all set up, I am not sure why Together and all aren’t working. Sorry :( Definitely going to need someone closer to the metal to have a look at that
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jackjamieson AkyRhO: What happens when you try to create a channel in Together? (I've been using Together with my own microsub server so I might have encountered similar issues)
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Zegnat closes vHWC EU for the night
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tantek__ good morning #indieweb! It's HWC day! (and Baltimore did theirs last night)
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tantek__ is Virtual EU HWC happening?
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/mattnavarra/status/1042055250872606721?s=21
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@MattNavarra Facebook was down for 45 mins on 3 August 2018 Here’s the impact it had on the publishing ecosystem... - Global web traffic went up 2.3% - 11% increase in direct traffic to web pages - 22% increase in other apps opened - 8% increase in search traffic h/t @axios / @Chartbeat https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnYfuO7XcAAEduF.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1042055250872606721)
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tantek__ ah looks like I just missed it. hope vHWC EU was good Zegnat !
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tantek__ kevinmarks, quite interesting. FB down = rest of web went up?
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tantek__ the 8% increase in search traffic is particularly interesting, as it means people didn't "just" replace their use of FB by switching to different social media
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tantek__ how much of a stretch is it to infer that if all social media silos went down, then search traffic and direct traffic to web pages would go *way* up?
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[kevinmarks] @Gargron Nice. I already had a rel=me link to mastodon in the header of my blog, so this was free! https://mastodon.social/@qubyte/100749428077603231
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Loqi [qubyte] @Gargron Nice. I already had a rel=me link to mastodon in the header of my blog, so this was free! https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/006/446/974/original/17670a6cfeb3e197.png
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@jgmac1106 Hey #edu106 if any of you chose digital writing as your subjective and are interested in learning more about using #IndieWeb stuff on your blog I welcome you to join me at a free conference https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC Sept 28-29 (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7087-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042472786881667072)
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[kevinmarks] Curious to hear your experiences with redesigned settings pages, and to see some verified links. https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/100749031349740967
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Loqi [Eugen] Curious to hear your experiences with redesigned settings pages, and to see some verified links.
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tantek__ ^^^ good thread. lots of good confirmations on rel=me being easy to setup
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[kevinmarks] And an explanation on the profile edit page
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doubleloop Hi indieweb :)
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swentel evening :)
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gRegorLove Nice rel-me link verification on Mastodon
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tantek__ indeed!
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tantek__ Gargron++
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Loqi Gargron has 1 karma over the last year
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@ohhelloana ↩️ Hi Amanda! That's very kind of you! Are you on the indieweb slack channel? I'm currently using jekyll and using the jekyll-webmention_io plugin - i'm pretty sure i'm the one doing something wrong here :) (twitter.com/_/status/1042487917552254976)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ It looks like a Jekyll site. Here is a http://webmentions.io plugin https://github.com/aarongustafson/jekyll-webmention_io/ and more info here: https://indieweb.org/Jekyll or you can always stop by the dev channel for https://chat.indieweb.org (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7099-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1042488019868168192)
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@ohhelloana Just had an awesome evening at #hwclondon! Thanks @calum_ryan for organising it! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1042515697241341953)
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aaronpk Nice! Now I wonder how I can get mastodon to show my own profile as verified since I host mine myself
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[kevinmarks] Can you rel-me to yourself?
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tantek__ sounds like an #indieweb-dev question
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@TT_DanGillmor IndieWebCamps create tools for a new Internet. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/04/25/indiewebcamps_create_tools_for_a_new_internet.html, see more http://tweetedtimes.com/topic/Dan%20Gillmor?s=tnp (twitter.com/_/status/1042547938835226624)
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