#indieweb 2018-10-11
2018-10-11 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] you undersold at call by not mentioning gRSShopper was on tap....
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# [chrisaldrich] By individual badge files you mean a new page for each user? Why not one page per badge on one url? Unless you're doing custom badges per user it seems like a lot of extra work.
# [chrisaldrich] If that's the case you'll need all the pages to be private and private Webmentions, n'cest pas?
# [chrisaldrich] That's alright my phone is dying... ;) can't wait to see it though.
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[jgmac1106] we use a disclaimer, fokls know they are taking a MOOC, big biz quotes Dave Cormier wrong all the time. The M in MOOC modified Open, as in Massively open, it was never meant to refer to size of class. It took VC money to make that definition.
# [jgmac1106] but there will be a disclosure about open data. More personal philosophy, that one url, represents one person, represents one badge.. and you just don't mix up people with measurement even in open classes
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# [jgmac1106] Google+ will remain for G Suite for Edu customers though for educators who use their google accounts those will be gone
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "FERPA" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "FERPA is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# [jgmac1106] What is IPFS?
# Loqi IPFS is short for InterPlanetary File System, potentially a static site storage method using content based addressing https://indieweb.org/IPFS
# [jgmac1106] wow that sounds really cool
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# [jgmac1106] here is my next UX of parenting post: v
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: https://www.customerservant.com/this-is-for-everyone/
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[dmitshur] This is what I made during today’s HWC in NYC:
# [dmitshur] (Just a simple form. The backend isn’t completely ready, so it won’t work at this time.)
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KartikPrabhu [dmitshur]: this is to createa new repo on your site?
# [dmitshur] Yep.
# KartikPrabhu nice!
# KartikPrabhu I also start by creating simple HTML forms first and then doing the backend :)
# [dmitshur] Previously, I had to create them manually. Which included like 4 steps (create bare git repo, create issue tracker for it, subscribe myself to its issue tracker, post a “repo created” event to my activity stream). So I wanted to automate it under a single button press.
# [dmitshur] The backend is like 95% done (from a few days ago), just not 100% yet. :)
# KartikPrabhu :thumbsup:
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# [jgmac1106] Good morning
# [jgmac1106] Thx, I got some feedback on mixing up consumption and posting
# [jgmac1106] And I do think itvis driven by how I do photos. Which is still print them.. Takes a lot in my mind to elevate a pic to photography
# [jgmac1106] [dmitshur] here is a Google Drive version a friend is working on https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dCBkoBkdSlFNkM5ESXMnPqvysoD5JiLu/view?usp=drivesdk
# [jgmac1106] Shared your demo with him. May connect sometime
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[chegalabonga] Oh gosh I really want to hand roll my own site but WordPress with plugins is doing the job well enough.
# [jgmac1106] [chegalabonga] I think I am going to do a halfway approach. Use static pages for content and throw a Known blog on a subdomain... WordPress never worked for me
# [jgmac1106] Finally figured out why us teachers fell in love with G+. It was near perfect learning network
# [chegalabonga] [jgmac1106] Ah k. Interesting. I had a laravel-based one couple years ago and for whatever reasons i moved to WP and lost that codebase. Classic me
# [chegalabonga] I love the idea of building my own and implementing these protocols, but know its gonna be a long process.
# [jgmac1106] Yeah people talked me out of it at IWC NYC, I really wanted to give Perch Runway a spin
# [jgmac1106] [Rose] and @petermolnar talking about getting a Grav project going
# [jgmac1106] Yeah @zegnat without getting - devy they want to make tools for others. May have been Jeremy and not Peter
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petermolnar jgmac1106: the whole store from my side is that I maintain friends/family WordPress sites, and I fear the coming changes - it'll break their familiarity and a hell lot of the plugins. As a result, I started looking at other CMS systems again - initially I did that for myself, when I considered getting off WordPress the first time. At that time grav was without a GUI; it now has one, so I though it might be a very good start for homepag
# petermolnar e-like sites, and it could be made indieweb-friendly with not much work.
# petermolnar it's not the most ideal site for streams, though it can do it.
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# petermolnar btw, I remember the reasons why I changed from my own CMS to WordPress a decade ago; interesting to see those reasons fade away from it and manifest themselves in another CMS. (Easy to extend, simple, obvious to use)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
# jeremycherfas Hi Sven
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# petermolnar of those who use webmention.io for handling webmention: what do you do with pingback spam, that slips though?
# petermolnar It's one of those things I haven't considered: I'm storing incoming comments as md+frontmatter as well, so if I want to mark it as spam, I'd still need to keep some information about it.
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tonz prepping for indiewebcamp Nuremburg I made a list of things, I might work on https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/10/indiewebcamp-potential-list-of-things-to-do/
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[kevinmarks] interesting rant about static site generators https://fvsch.com/static-site-generators/
# [kevinmarks] interesting position paper from Google (leaked via a less attractive site) https://www.scribd.com/document/390521673/The-Good-Censor-GOOGLE-LEAK#from_embed
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Scribd" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Scribd is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# [jgmac1106] Had the most wonderful discussion with [eddie] about how the private post could work. Excited for public group and private group like spaces from out own domains
# [jgmac1106] @tonz I am not great with PHP or Perl, by not great I mean know nothing, but I am poking around gRSShoper as it is an rss reader with native webmentions.
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[cleverdevil] It'd be good for others to weigh in here – https://github.com/brentsimmons/NetNewsWire/issues/495
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# chrisaldrich @jgmac Is gRSShoper open source, a third-party hosted service, or both?
# chrisaldrich @kevinmarks, thanks for that Brizzly note. I remember it fondly from the early days of Twitter. Hilarious to see how it's been repurposed.
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# [kevinmarks] I saw Jason at xoxo, which was nice
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# chrisaldrich @kevinmarks, any chance that Jason might consider making Brizzly a micropub/microsub client? Given it's history as a multisite posting client (and codebase) and it's current state, it might be a worthwhile project and it certainly had a nice UI to begin with.
# [jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] open source, I think I forked it yesterday.
# [jgmac1106] If not I will building all my template webmention badges in there
# chrisaldrich What is gRSShopper?
# Loqi gRSShopper is a personal web environment that combines resource aggregation, a personal dataspace, and personal publishing https://indieweb.org/gRSShopper
# chrisaldrich jgmac1106++ for the definition
# [jgmac1106] I have no idea how it works but webmentions are native
# [jgmac1106] Jacky Downes will make up words without knowing if those words mean something in the dev space
# chrisaldrich It almost sounds like gRSShopper could be a micropub client too....
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# [jgmac1106] Yep but above my skill set
# [jgmac1106] Feel free to add to article
# [jgmac1106] Reclaim going to make it as close to 1 button install as possible
# [jgmac1106] They can't put it into cPanel but all the Perl modules will be available and already tested
# [jgmac1106] Should be fun class
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# chrisaldrich I'm going to have to get a Reclaim Account just for the fun of it.
# chrisaldrich @jgmac1106, you could whisper the idea into Downes' ear and maybe he would make it so... ;)
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# [jgmac1106] Whisper what? We are planning together read through my blogging through chat on dev yesterday
# [jgmac1106] Want manual till it hurt webmention badge at launch and a full micropub badge creation, ledger, issuer by the time we get to recognition module
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# [jgmac1106] Though he doesn't care if it's microsub/micropub wants it to work in gRSShoper first or be a third party which publishes to his site (micropub.. Shhhh)
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# [jgmac1106] We should try and see if Greenpeace likes IndieWeb to organize their global campaigners
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# [cleverdevil] I've been using Granary or Instagram-Atom for a while now on Instagram, but with the latest revelation regarding their tracking garbage on iOS, I may just be deleting...
# [cleverdevil] I don't really want to though. In spite of themselves, I still like content from my friends there.
# [cleverdevil] Sigh
# [cleverdevil] Good point, [snarfed]... except for private accounts.
# [cleverdevil] What's the trick for that?
# [cleverdevil] (Following individuals)
# [jgmac1106] It hard. I miss my family and friends content on facebook
# [cleverdevil] (Intagram-atom is totally broken for me at the moment... maybe error on my end, tho)
# snarfed [cleverdevil]: just type their username into https://granary.io/?site=instagram
# [cleverdevil] Cool.
# [cleverdevil] Maybe I'll do that, less fiddly than session cookies that get revoked silently.
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "we feeding Loqi" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "we feeding Loqi is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# Rose1 steals Loqi's cookie
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