#indieweb 2018-10-22

2018-10-22 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Version 2.0 of the Micropub Plugin Released" https://david.shanske.com/2018/10/21/version-2-0-of-the-micropub-plugin-released/
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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GWG Morning, Zegnat
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GWG I'm trying to figure out why everything is coming up in celsius
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Zegnat Clearly the superior unit? 😉
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GWG Wait, this is temperature in Kelvin.
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KartikPrabhu which is the most superior unit!
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[jgmac1106] is the indieweb map snarfed made real time? i was just thinking after seeing the demo of "likes" separated by one degree the same exact thing could be done for check-ins building a close to real time "where in the world map'
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swentel it's not real time no
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jeremycherfas Let's try this again -- Good morning IndieWeb
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petermolnar \o
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jeremycherfas o/
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[eddie] jgmac1106 snarfed's indieweb map was actually just a single time data collection. It is not periodically updated
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, fully recouped from travelling?
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jeremycherfas I'm hoping so. Was it the cocktails, or just a too early start and no water or food? I'll never know, but I do feel OK now. I hope you are holding up OK and that the nachos won't trouble you further.
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[jgmac1106] [eddie] well my brain got spinning with GPS based games and what if indiemon monsters weren't placed in venue but were spawned randomly based on density of IndieWeb people.
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Zegnat All well here. Reading aaronpk's book and trying not to get the stuffiness of the full bus get to me.
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[eddie] lol that would be pretty cool, jgmac1106
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[jgmac1106] Totally useless just random thought around, wow building checkin feed and a real time map of everyone would be simple
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[jgmac1106] ...the density algorithm to randomly spawn monsters have no idea
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Zegnat Not sure anything about location data is "simple". My new posting app does attach my position to everything, so I'd be helping to feed the algorithm
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] we used to do this pretty easily with twitter location data and google maps for a bunch of moocs…well I didn’t do it, but when people tweeted with location data we got the coordinates for each tweet and it generated an auto pin on a Googlemap
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Zegnat Sure, but it is relatively easy to do those things within a silo, compared to decentralised ;) Somewhere somehow you need to get the data from all separate websites into one map thing.
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Zegnat Although I guess Together already has a map view...
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Three things about Readers during IndieWebCamp Nürnberg" https://seblog.nl/2018/10/22/13/three-things-about-readers
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[jgmac1106] silly comcast, shut down my Internet when I was uploading the building block session to s3...will have to wait until I get home. Thought upload would be done when I got home
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[sebsel] squeezed a blogpost out of his laptop battery
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Zegnat sebsel++ for documenting background thoughts
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Loqi sebsel has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (20 in all channels)
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[dave] g'day indieweb
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jgmac1106 grrr inoreader charges for websub, my feeds haven’t updated in two weeks
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Zegnat Sounds like they broke something. I expect that they just rely on polling for nonpaying users?
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jgmac1106 yeah it is an upsell. I am set to poll every 178 minutes
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jgmac1106 I have to be a paying member for websub
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Zegnat Sounds like you need to start owning your subscriptions yourself! :D
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[jgmac1106] yeah...just can't switch gears in the middle of classes, get tarred and feathered
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[kevinmarks] all these marauders map things only really work in dense urban places with lots of users. It was a problem when Google was trying to generalize dodgeball, and with Latitude
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[dougbeal] Good morning indieweb
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gRegorLove o/ [dougbeal]
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tonz cool posting [sebsel] on readers.
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Loqi tonz: snarfed left you a message 22 hours, 39 minutes ago: https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/#faq
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sebsel thanks :)
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tonz The part about overwhelm resonated with me [sebsel], and I answered which turned into a long posting about my information strategies and ideal reader . See https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/10/feed-reading-strategies-and-tools/
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tonz I think it contains a pointer or two how the solution to deal with overhelm is not in the feeds, but in what you know about authors, their connections with themselves and you, and your current agenda of interests.
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sebsel going to read it now!
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sebsel oh boy, references to blogposts that predate my already 12.5 year old weblog :o
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tonz another thing, not mentioned in the posting is the notion of blogs as distributed conversations. You blog something, I respond / extend / build off it, others do to: an image of that emerging web of connections is a sign of a signal. Akin to the like relations you experimented with. There's some academic work on vizzing such emerging distributed conversations, but not recently. For me those type of feedbackloops / emergent patterns were key in keeping on
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tonz explosion of network and learning it meant to me.
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tonz ...keeping on...blogging, the resulting .... (a part went missing between the previous 2 lines)
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sebsel tonz really interesting series of blogposts (I clicked through to many others)
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sebsel I got a sense of that distributed conversation while reading your post and the ones it links to, indeed. It's all just a network of who thought about what somewhere else in an article. Weirdly enough it feels new to me, but it reminds me of things too.
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sebsel I'll think some more and hope to write more once I got something :)
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Zegnat You can also have a look at tantek's archives. I think he used to edit his posts with links to posts that were written in response.
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Zegnat Way back before that got automated.
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Zegnat The blogosphere has always been a network :D
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tonz indeed, it has been / and still is. Friend of mine PhD'd on mapping her and my network's blog conversations about knowledge management and how it helped informal learning.
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[jgmac1106] @tonz can you send me citation? Putting in a bunch of grants that measuring and local blog health is good for civic health
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[jgmac1106] Mean measuring, encouraging, iteratinf
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[jgmac1106] We have enough research to show the death star effect (in)formal social networks of learning. Pattern happens every time.
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[jgmac1106] here is the death star effect: http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2015/03/20/my-nerdiest-ccourses-twitter-discussion
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[jgmac1106] grrrrr...I wanna get that to go a way
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