#indieweb 2018-10-26

2018-10-26 UTC
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[dave] Good evening indieweb
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[dave] Dumb idea of the day: a game that builds levels based on the microformats on web pages and uses links to navigate through the game
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jacky [dave]: tell me more!
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aaronpk Really want a search within a channel feature in my reader
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[dave] That’s the whole idea so far. Maybe h-card instances are enemies or npcs or some mix depending on how theyre marked up, if they have rel=me vs friend or colleague or whatever?
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jacky u-follow-of might help with friend identifiers
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[dave] Yeah, that’s a possibility. Was thinking of XFN identifiers as well.
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[dave] Might be a good project to fork off of a microformats detection chrome extension and just use that to power a new UI, then start adding features to keep track of discoveries and inventory and score and such.
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jacky what is XFN
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Loqi XFN (XHTML Friends Network) is the network of visible links across blogs that claim various XFN relationships with/to each other https://indieweb.org/XFN
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jacky hmmm
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jacky I'm still wrestling with making "public" friends list
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jacky like I know that I'm going to have a "visible" one
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jacky but I might make lists (under what microsub might allow/encourage)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Digital Mindfulness, Can It Exist?" https://readwriterespond.com/2018/10/digital-mindfulness/
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Ruxton interesting article
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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[jgmac1106] @ruxton do a reply....the idea being what is digital mindfulness beyond simply staying focused?
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Zegnat Does anyone have examples of people who track the start and end of activities? E.g. /eat posts thst include when you started and ended eating?
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Zegnat Part of me wants to change my posts to be something more like named counters. But not sure that would be a good idea, so looking for prior art.
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sknebel aaronpk's trips, jeremycherfas' walks, have start and end in a way? not sure if someone is tracking exercise that way
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[jgmac1106] some people do this with read post and start and finish of books
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Zegnat That could be interesting for read too. Fetch all my activities per book and calculate total read time!
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Zegnat I see a few fun ways of using the data. Just kot sure how i would post/publish it.
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[jgmac1106] Yes there was a long discussion about making start and finish generic so they could apply to any activity rather than something like read-start or eat-start
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[jgmac1106] Would the publishing of an activity have enough of a unique ontological net to consider them different than an h-entry? They aren't events as we are usually referring to verbs rather than nouns
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Zegnat I am not too worried about the microformats. Just the data presentation in general for now.
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[jgmac1106] Then don't overthink start: x, finish: y
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[jgmac1106] Green Light, red Light?
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Zegnat That could work
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jeremycherfas Yellow light for when you stop reading a book but haven't yet finished it?
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jeremycherfas Like, at the end of a chapter, or something.
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[kevinmarks] hm
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[kevinmarks] Looks like my new phone found another slack account to use
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[jgmac1106] I can provide an HTML table as well for those who won't use a Google Doc but if anyone wants to help me find post, chat logs, or wiki articles I am collecting media for a piece on IndieWeb and Affinity Spaces [jackjamieson] and I are writing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yETrpHPP-6hymPJapUvO6GWFMc0daB4W8ma8IxbQ77c/edit?usp=sharing here is a completed example: https://docs.google.com/document/d/105dxBbZYI0EJ8NKUiJIxnx4igMqB7924BPlw6HNaxbw/
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Zegnat Hmm. Turns out UI design is hard. Haha
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GWG It is
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Zegnat I am really happy with the posting interface I built in Nürnberg. But now I want to add a few features and I can see the amount of taps it takes to do things grow exponentially. Not what I want.
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GWG How do you solve that?
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Zegnat I haven’t yet ... I’m thinking tabs, maybe. Have a top bar for switching to views with the extra options. That would add only a single tap to go there.
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Zegnat I think I might be able to fit 3 tabs on the phone without compromising too much.
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sknebel what extras are you thinking of?
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Zegnat The idea of making all activities timers for one. Though I think I can fit that in the current interface. That’s what I am playing with right now.
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Zegnat Next I need some way of defining activities
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Zegnat I should create a wiki page for it, probably. So I can track the changes and screenshots
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Loqi yea
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sknebel I wonder if the timer thing makes sense as a "second page" that appears after confirming?
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sknebel you could even make interacting with it optional - post on page transition, and add the time span afterwards if you confirm one
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sknebel if you don't, it remains a single point
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Zegnat I wonder if it makes sense to not make that configurable at all. Less taps. What activities take no time?
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sknebel question is if you always want to log a time, and if it actually means less taps
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sknebel i.e. would you rather record a default time, or the fact that you didn't enter a specific one. if you can fit it in your current UI it could mean less taps, if it requires tabs or other things to tap it might not
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[jgmac1106] or it is one start and stop button for every activity? Hit Start>Choose activity>Hit Stop>start, stop, and duration recorded. On stop you get any additional fields and then publish
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[cleverdevil] ~~ DARK MODE ~~ - https://cleverdevil.io/s/KrXFpwOXiThwMOnMx9YnSM0j4qnbP26g28owzNb9daJuPaCa4f1eG3V8EHnQRiswTehjX4L5cUX3wqfqtAtEnIofvrQGHPs4XCZV.mp4
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[cleverdevil] 🙂
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sknebel :D
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[cleverdevil] (That was fun)
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Zegnat Video doesn't seem to work here...
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Zegnat Chrome for Android.
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[cleverdevil] Ah, its an MP4 file. Just h.264.
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[cleverdevil] Here's an animated GIF - https://cleverdevil.io/s/iLLs3TnrWB5XMEBTOGcVrnccvnLSWdPzgM0GJMEC7JqmPcDflWK9ppNXkKZJwOuzXki3HiTqD2rsh0Fl2SEzBQQQhMmGyjCTNfAh.gif
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[cleverdevil] 😄
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Zegnat wget’s the GIF, ETA: 5.5 minutes
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[cleverdevil] Haha
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[cleverdevil] I wonder how big it is.
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[cleverdevil] Ah, 36 MB
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[cleverdevil] That's not too bad.
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[cleverdevil] I wonder why its loading so slowly?
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[jgmac1106] I have no Halloween costume tonight's party, I will be the only one nerdy enough to get the joke but I think I have to go as a 401 Error
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[jgmac1106] ohh I want that for Ben's blog
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Zegnat [cleverdevil], I am somewhere between 4G and 3G on the intertubesscale
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[jgmac1106] maybe I should print out a two under construction images and make a two image flipbook gif to attach to my shirt
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slvr Put a giant arrow pointing to your left on the front of a shirt and another arrow pointing to your left on the back.
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slvr Forward and back buttons. bam.
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slvr Write UDP on a shirt. Yell a lot and don't listen to anyone.
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slvr Wear crappy clothes with "nova" written on the shirt, then drag around a bunch of really shiny things with you that don't fit together. Openstack!
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sknebel bahaha
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[jgmac1106] maybe be a website from the nineties...I could get a piece of cardboard have a bad iframe stick outside the div, get somekind of animated boutton, and autoplay music, just walk aroudn with 8 bit sounds in my pocket
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slvr dancing. baby.
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[jgmac1106] yeah too bad my kid broke my printert (again) I would print out three images and attach them to a shirt andadd a gif...might need to hit library
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slvr Attach a spinning beachball to your head: Modern macintosh
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[kevinmarks] thread: https://twitter.com/robhorning/status/1055867169702060033
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@robhorning "authentic" = "nonstrategic" or "spontaneous"; insisting on "authenticity" is part of FB's commitment to behaviorist framework, in which what FB records as data is treated as automatically "true" (twitter.com/_/status/1055867169702060033)
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