#indieweb 2018-10-31
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[jgmac1106] I just put in an application to go to https://www.credcon.org/ other folks should try. Still say best tool we have to a credible web is to get more people online and in control. [manton] if I get a spot we should do an IndieWeb Mett-Up one night
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# [jgmac1106] either way def gonna make it to IWC Austin as excuse to see family
# [jgmac1106] hopefully both
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[kevinmarks] Mastodon rel=me release notes draft https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/100987818813146716
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viaken [kevinmarks]: That link isn't public, I think.
# viaken At least, I'm getting a "The page you were looking for doesn't exist. "
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# [dave] Ah, looks like it's up now at https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2018/10/mastodon-2.6-released/
# ned0 no HWC in SF tomorrow?
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gRegorLove spoopy HWC
# gRegorLove ned0, since it's not on the wiki yet I'd say probably not, but not 100% sure. I'd double check with tantek.
# gRegorLove !tell tantek no SF HWC tomorrow, correct?
# ned0 ty ty
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# [chegalabonga] A red light for me with that credcon is that it is sponsored by "Facebook Journalism Project"
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# [Vincent] morning indieweb
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# joelpurra howdy
# joelpurra <=> deathrow1
# joelpurra sknebel: vHWC?
# joelpurra aaronpk: i note that you visit(ed) a café on my street. staying a while? plans?
# joelpurra aaronpk: in that case i'll pop by in a minute =)
# joelpurra \o/
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petermolnar merge vhwc and berlin?
# petermolnar for today, I mean
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[schmarty] petermolnar: not sure we have the tech to get the co-located folks into vHWC meaningfully
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# [jgmac1106] goes to set uop mumble on new machinbe
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# alxd I was hoping for something much much lighter than a whole Wordpress
# alxd I find myself not writing a lot of blogposts because it takes a moment to format them in Pelican (even when I use Markdown in Ghostwriter and so on)
# alxd And it would be awesome to have a Medium-like interface which just creates a Markdown post (with maybe some custom HTML / CSS for image placement)
# alxd Google finds a lot of ones working for a very specific setup and requiring a very specific library version. I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a good one
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[cleverdevil] [manton] is there a feed for the Discover timeline on Micro.blog?
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[manton] [cleverdevil] Yes, JSON: https://micro.blog/posts/discover
# [cleverdevil] Thanks!
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[chrisaldrich] Happy Hallowe'en from the west coast IndieWeb
# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] [mrkrndvs] and other edu folks. I just saw a nice mention of blogging and indieweb tangential pieces in Profhacker/Chronicle of Higher Ed: https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/weekend-reading-rediscovering-blogging-edition/65671
# [chrisaldrich] (Courtesy of GWG's relatively new refbacks plugin!)
# [jgmac1106] awesome nice shout out to micro.blog from @dancohen as well. Lee was supposed to go to IWC-NYC...thinking I need to go to Domains19 and get IWC-Denver going with Remi
# alxd jacky, thank you!
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, it would be nice to be able to massage the semantic linkbacks type of them as well so that they could end up as replies rather than mentions.
# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] We should try to get Lee using webmention too.
# [chrisaldrich] GWG is there a way to put that meta field into the "edit" view the way it's done for Webmentions? (I notice the edit screen shows the SL meta data and the Webmention meta data, but just leaves out the dropdown box for the reply, mention, like, etc.
# [chrisaldrich] I also notice that if I manually insert an avatar it doesn't respect/show it on refresh. viz: https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/21/connections-kathleen-fitzpatrick/#Lee%20Skallerup%20Bessette++1
# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] Alas it looks like Lee's website is set up on /Ghost which doesn't have much indieweb support (yet...)
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# [jgmac1106] [eddie] and [chrisaldrich] we need to get the IWC-Online going and direct it at this audience
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doubleloop Good evening indieweb!
# doubleloop Checking in from HWC London
# [jgmac1106] hey HWC London!!
# doubleloop .o/
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# [jgmac1106] [roland] you ever have any questions or have an idea to share feel free to ask anything
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# tin1 the fix was replacing " https://elliottucker.net/setting-up-known-with-nginx-indieweb.html" (broken link) in favour of "https://archive.is/sJkkO"
# tin1 which by the way I'm trying to get running under nginx so I'll discuss that at #known :)
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# [roland] I will, thank you. I'm a bit worried about the security issues related to the Indie-plugins I installed. Are there any? If so, are there sensible precautions to take? I ask because my other personal website was hacked several times, making me a bit paranoid.
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# [jgmac1106] Hey [roland], the plugins are very secure, remember most require you to sign on with your own domain....you control that...BTW don't use the threads in SLACk it doesn't work well for IRC users
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# [roland] 👍
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# [jgmac1106] if #wordpress stop by that channel anytime and folks will double check your set up
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deathrow1 !tell [schmarty] https://joelpurra.com/projects/jqnpm/
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jacky fwiw, the former team (me included) at clef has been soft promoting https://rublon.com/
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# [schmarty] deathrow1: nice!!
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[wiobyrne] Thanks for the share [chrisaldrich] love it. Great stuff from Lee.
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# [chrisaldrich] [wiobyrne] your ears must have been burning... I was just writing about you and highlights/annotations/bookmarks. 🙂
# [wiobyrne] [chrisaldrich] that's the new IndieWeb plugin. You get Spidey senses when someone is reading/annotating your posts. :)
# [chrisaldrich] I'd meant to do some documentation for a while, so I thought I'd procrastinate in the wiki instead of writing slides for a presentation.
# [chrisaldrich] This reminds me, [wiobyrne], have you ever made a template for yourself on the wiki? Something like: https://indieweb.org/Template:chrisaldrich
# [wiobyrne] In a somewhat related strand... applied for some funding to pay hosting for several early career academics to mentor them in building digital domains and IndieWeb philosophies.
# [wiobyrne] No, [chrisaldrich]... I haven't seen that yet. My experimentation went sideways recently after a bunch of pubs and working on a book proposal.
# [wiobyrne] I need to get back in and clean up my stuff. :)
# [chrisaldrich] That's alright. Life happens. I always forget to go back and add documentation to the wiki so it's easier for others to find it later. I sketched out some bits and added a few links.
# [chrisaldrich] I'm tempted to approach Reclaim Hosting about setting up a mini-domains account to help host and maintain IndieWeb accounts. Perhaps a non-profit or a business (for the public good)?
# [chrisaldrich] Or perhaps create a sub-business as a pathway for DoOO students to transition to when they graduate, so they can keep their domain and content up and running.
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# [wiobyrne] That's my concern. Paying for a year or two of hosting and then transitioning over users to pay for their stuff. Using Reclaim, so wondering about creating that model.
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] I don't think /annotation deserves its own emojicon like that - it's an abstraction, not an actual post type
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# [chrisaldrich] [wiobyrne] I recall Maha Bali touching on the economics of DoOO in the IndieWebNYC keynote recently. As a result, she encourages her (foreign) students to use the free wordpress.com platform, so they don't have the rug pulled out from underneath them.
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# [jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] I am sure Reclaim is just a bunch of Digital Ocean servers.. If you wanted nonprofit skip the middle person....though a Domain and 2 gigs for $30 is a good price IMO... But I don't worry about food and shelter security... Like my students
# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] Reclaim also does some interstitial support work that I wouldn't want to have to replicate myself, so using them as a middle man with a slightly smaller margin would be okay by me.
# [jgmac1106] May try to go to Domains19.... Yeah [chrisaldrich] the customer service is amazing
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