#indieweb 2018-11-05
2018-11-05 UTC
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viaken 39/49 correct
# viaken sl007: That was fun, thanks! I'll share it around some more.
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[jgmac1106] Great example of owning your annotations: http://aworkinglibrary.com/reading/underground-railroad/
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jeremycherfas So are you Zegnat. Safe travels.
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# [Vincent] good morning Indieweb
# [Vincent] Is ownyourswarm down at the mo? https://ownyourswarm.p3k.io I’m just getting a blank page. I tried sending a checkin to test and it also wasn’t returned
# [Vincent] uh oh
# [Vincent] I thought it might be my connection
# [Vincent] just tried wifi/4G to check and it looks down to me 😞
# [Vincent] !tell aaronpk I suspect ownyourswarm might be down, if you weren’t aware.
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petermolnar !tell [Khurt] I did. Not fun.
# [Vincent] lol, thanks! Just tested, it’s working again 🙂
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sl007 The critical mass of the g+ community came up with a "Fediverse Glossary" : http://tilde.town/~petegozz/Fediverse_Glossary - some stuff is missing, wrote to them
# jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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# vika seems like webmention.io documentation is a bit stale... I tried to use their examples and it didn't work
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# vika described there: https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/116
# vika I hope it's me doing something wrong. I'm no JS programmer, may have done something incorrectly
# [jgmac1106] Good morning IndieWeb
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# vika when I used the example from documentation - none. In my code it's equal to the permalink of the post - it's unique enough for my purposes.
# [jgmac1106] Hey everybody Mozilla just launched their 7th cohort of Open Leaders: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/opportunity/mozilla-open-leaders/ be a good opportunity for either the tech track or culture track for an IndieWeb contributor
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://ramblinggit.com/2018/11/google-the-social-silos-and-the-web-traffic-future/
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# [markmhendrickso Hi all! I noticed this weekend that I missed the camp in Berlin 😵 I'm sorry to have not been there and seen everyone again
# [markmhendrickso I've also been pretty dormant with this community since early in the year, and work on my project Neotoma has been on pause since the spring. I had presented it at last year's camp
# [markmhendrickso I actually joined Blockstack in July so I'm tackling decentralization now with them as a PM in the blockchain space. If anyone's interested in the work we're doing, I'm available as a resource!
# [markmhendrickso I don't really know how to best line up our work with the IndieWeb community but if any of you have ideas or feedback on our approach, I'm all ears https://blockstack.org/
# [markmhendrickso In any case, I hope everyone here is well!
# [markmhendrickso [snarfed] thanks bud!
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[tantek] kevinmarks++ for https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1058661225431732224 - I need to followup on that noting how bad their false positives are
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@kevinmarks @yoyoel Your own bot detectors have labelled me and @t bots, as well as many themed accounts, and because your process for reinstatement and appeal is opaque, have probably got a larger false positive rate than you realise. (twitter.com/_/status/1058661225431732224)
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# [markmhendrickso [tantek] Thanks! I'll post a quick blog soon regarding your suggestion above and link to it here
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[kevinmarks] Completely client side makes a lot of indieweb linking models not work - is there a way for blockstack apps to serve html?
# [kevinmarks] (looking at your first example)
# [markmhendrickso [kevinmarks] good question and point, let me check
# [markmhendrickso I know we are client-side rendering heavy in what we present, but we may have server-side tech that makes linking work more easily
# [markmhendrickso Has anyone worked on client-side render processing tech that you're aware of? I could see that useful for JS apps in general
# [kevinmarks] Similar issues with dat, in that they promote js, but do have html serving.
# [kevinmarks] You end up needing an entire browser really. You end up with headless chrome, or the kind of "build your own dom" stuff like react
# [markmhendrickso i'm kind of surprised a headless browser option isn't more common here
# [markmhendrickso and that google still insists on server-side rendering
# [markmhendrickso client-side rendering can be very user-privacy friendly since you can load an app separately than the data
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# [jgmac1106] Its an HTML first, be human readable first, approach more than anything in terms of culture. If I click on source code I should be able to know why things do what they do
# [markmhendrickso our approach is def HTML first, more just a question where it gets compiled, by server or browser
# [markmhendrickso and how data is interlaced into the HTML of course
# [jgmac1106] thanks, I am learning all this stuff
# [markmhendrickso me too! it's complicated
# [jgmac1106] but why is there a difference between HTML and data..why isn't HTML the data...says a person serving all his data from a database....
# [jgmac1106] well off to class, time to go talk r-controlled vowels...may just make em all watch @aaronpk' "An R is vowel talk" and leave class
# [markmhendrickso when it comes to this question of server vs. browser, the difference between HTML and data isn't important i suppose
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# [markmhendrickso [kevinmarks] quick info back is that yes, blockstack apps can render HTML server-side – but only with public data, not private since that's encrypted in a decentralized fashion and needs to be decrypted in the browser using the user's private key essentially
# [markmhendrickso I imagine public data is what you have in mind here for personal websites and the like, yea?
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# [markmhendrickso makes sense
# [markmhendrickso "There are methods for doing private posts server to server " <– i'd be interested in hearing more about this
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# snarfed bridgy traffic bump has levelled off over the last ~3w, but still 10-50x higher than baseline before. all real users in browsers, all direct, ie not search or from links (but could be from short url wrappers, eg tco). i still mostly don't know who they all are. best guess so far is [jgmac1106]'s evangelism to education/google+ refugees. fascinating mystery.
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[cleverdevil] [snarfed] wow, that's quite interesting! It's also encouraging, regardless of the cause. It would be nice to know the source of the growth, but hey, growth is growth 🙂
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Bridgy traffic bump" https://snarfed.org/2018-11-05_bridgy-traffic-bump
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# sl007 To germany : This week is the week of indie bookstores ! Support your local dealer. https://wub-event.de
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# deathrow1|absnt thanks for iwc berlin — nice meeting you all in person! learned a bunch, and reminded me that there's a bunch of stuff i need to work on on my website =)
# deathrow1|absnt some day i'll implement webmentions and whatnot to do it properly, but until then i'd be happy to at least lurk irc and perhaps connect on linkedin =)
# deathrow1|absnt https://joelpurra.com/cv/
# deathrow1|absnt sent connection requests to those i've met and could find easily on linked, but do send me a request if i missed you or you just feel like extending your professional network =)
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Owning my code snippets" https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/05/28/article/
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gRegorLove ooh, nice!
# gRegorLove [eddie]++
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@xkeepah the internet's slow transformation from "one off websites and small communities/journals" to "blogging platforms" to "social media" is arguably a lot like gentrification we're tearing down the old neighborhoods to build fancy, new, (more profitable) "buildings" (twitter.com/_/status/1059577201014632448)
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