#indieweb 2018-12-29

2018-12-29 UTC
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[cleverdevil] All I could find was a french version of IE.
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[cleverdevil] It launched just fine, but won't load my website (or many others) because its URL parsing isn't smart enough to handle newer TLDs 😉
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[cleverdevil] iCab works great, but has really poor support for HTTPS.
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[cleverdevil] Anyway, that was a fun trip down memory lane 🙂
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chrisaldrich Who knew there were so many reasons for memers to be a part of the indieweb? https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/instagrams-christmas-crackdown-meme-accounts/579055/
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chrisaldrich instagram << https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/instagrams-christmas-crackdown-meme-accounts/579055/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/instagrams-christmas-crackdown-meme-accounts/579055/" to the "See Also" section of /Instagram https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55082&oldid=54844
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chrisaldrich why << https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/instagrams-christmas-crackdown-meme-accounts/579055/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/instagrams-christmas-crackdown-meme-accounts/579055/" to the "See Also" section of /why https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55083&oldid=52978
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jacky https://overreacted.io/things-i-dont-know-as-of-2018/
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eli_oat1 @jacky it strikes me that a guy who works on react says that he doesn't have experience with a functional language…although i guess he does caveat for JS
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[tantek] that IG memers news is both funny and kind of meh
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[tantek] memers have contributed to a serious dumbing-down of political dialog
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[tantek] from the Atlantic article: "everything I’ve built, my entire net worth, was just gone before my eyes" <-- why you don't built on someone else's "free" but proprietary platform, as has been previously reported many many times in the past.
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[tantek] even this misses the point: “We’re playing on rented property,” said Goswami, “and that’s just so apparent now more than ever before.” <--- no you're not paying any rent, you're playing on "free" property! WDYT was going to happen?!?
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[tantek] instagram << 2014-12-18 Business Insider: [https://www.businessinsider.com/chaos-ensues-as-instagram-deletes-millions-of-accounts-2014-12 Chaos Ensues As Instagram Deletes Millions Of Accounts]
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Loqi ok, I added "2014-12-18 Business Insider: [https://www.businessinsider.com/chaos-ensues-as-instagram-deletes-millions-of-accounts-2014-12 Chaos Ensues As Instagram Deletes Millions Of Accounts]" to the "See Also" section of /Instagram https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55084&oldid=55082
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metbril I am trying to find out if anyone is developing an OAuth2 provider for the PHP League http://oauth2-client.thephpleague.com/providers/implementing/
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Loqi metbril: jeremycherfas left you a message on 2018-08-31 at 7:50am UTC: I see youy're taking an interest in the Grav webmention plugin; I tried using it and in the end gave up because the data it returned were so inconsistent, depending on the source markup. Tried to get it to use XRay instead but my ability wasn't up to it then.
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Loqi metbril: [tantek] left you a message 3 days, 2 hours ago: any particular reason you're deleting all these redirects? (assuming you're Robertvanbregt.nl) You're likely mistakenly deleting some. We have many redirects because someone linked to something somewhere (a post, a tweet etc.) that had a slight typo etc. so the redirects repair those links. Can you join the indieweb-meta channel to chat more?
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metbril This could be used, I think, to login to my personal Grav site with IndieAuth, not? https://github.com/trilbymedia/grav-plugin-login-oauth2/blob/develop/README.md
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metbril !tell jeremycherfas Thanks. I have not switch from WordPress but a working on that. If you have any suggestions, please leave those in the wiki? https://indieweb.org/Grav
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat !tell metbril Getting IndieAuth providers on some well used PHP OAuth2 libs could definitely be interesting! Keep us posted if you do any of that. I haven’t personally had a usecase for that yet.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kisik21 I just trashed my home network, so my website is down :3
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[nick] So am I in the right spot for learning about getting setup to “join” Indieweb?
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jacky did anyone ever replied to ^
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[nick] I’ve just found out about this from a random reddit comment and this sounds like it aligns with my views.
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jacky ah you're here
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jacky yes you are
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jacky :)
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jacky what is principles
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Loqi The IndieWeb Community is largely based on principles (AKA tenets) such as own your data, scratch your own itches, build tools for yourself, selfdogfood, document your stuff, open source your stuff, UX design is more important than protocols, visible data for humans first and machines second, platform agnostic platforms, plurality over monoculture, longevity, and remember to have fun! https://indieweb.org/principles
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[nick] This is kinda what I’ve been doing on my own site for the last year or so.
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jacky nice! mind if I ask what your URL is?
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[nick] nicklang.com
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[nick] I _just_ added an hCard
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[nick] Though I’m rolling my own.
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[nick] Soo need to figure out the whole posse thing. I was gonna just do it manually. But if there’s tools in place.
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jacky [nick]: there is!
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jacky check out https://brid.gy
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jacky it'll help you get Webmentions and do syndication (a core part of POSSE)
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[nick] Do I need to create webhooks then for bridgy to work?
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[nick] I’m writing my page from scratch... I’ll have to read more later. Out and about with the fam and on mobile.
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Zegnat [nick], you need to be able to receive webmentions. I don’t think anything else is required for bridgy to work. Webmentions are post requests to a URL, so very like webhooks
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Zegnat For the ins and outs I’d recommend asking in the #indieweb-dev channel :)
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[nick] That’s what I was thinking.
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[nick] I could expose an endpoint.
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[nick] But auth is the next piece. But I’ll ask there.
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jacky [nick]: the awesome part is a lot of stuff, if not only discussed, has been built :D
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jacky you can do auth with existing services like GitHub or using GPG if you look into https://indielogin.com
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