#indieweb 2019-01-09
2019-01-09 UTC
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GWG WordPress 5.1 to Replace “Blogging” References with “Publishing” https://wptavern.com/wordpress-5-1-to-replace-blogging-references-with-publishing
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[pfefferle] Good morning GWG
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[tantek] snarfed++ good post: https://snarfed.org/2019-01-08_goodbye-facebook-goodbye-google
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# [tantek] Logged in, view home page https://www.flickr.com/
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jeremycherfas Not on mobile, whatever it was.
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# jeremycherfas I see it now. Funny.
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# jeremycherfas Good morning sknebel
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[jgmac1106] Does anyone have example of an 2019 HWC page?
# [jgmac1106] Need to make New Haven for 1/23
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# [jgmac1106] That is IWC... I thought we tweaked how HWC pages work in 2019
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# jeremycherfas Anyone using CommonMarks? https://github.com/matthewl/Commonmarks
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[smerrill] aloha
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# jeremycherfas Ah, yes. Not the Markdown dream.
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Zegnat !tell tantek read back on chat saw you mention silos that promise to keep URLs available (re Flickr keeping accnts of deceased). https://posthaven.com/ has such a “pledge”.
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# [smerrill] there’s also https://www.permanent.org/
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Loqi [tantek]: Zegnat left you a message 1 hour, 10 minutes ago: read back on chat saw you mention silos that promise to keep URLs available (re Flickr keeping accnts of deceased). https://posthaven.com/ has such a “pledge”.
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "posthaven" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "posthaven is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# [smerrill] i loved Posterous
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# [smerrill] [tantek] no more info than the URL. They were at MozFest last October, but I didnt really chat with them at all. I think they have some kind of endowment or grant funding? *shrug*
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# Loqi Posterous.com was a blogging silo that shut down 2013-04-30 https://indieweb.org/Posterous
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Posthaven" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Posthaven is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[kevinmarks] site-deaths << “Facebook is, in a phrase, “so high school”; however, unlike “so middle school” Myspace, the slow death of Facebook is infinitely more justified.” https://thebaffler.com/salvos/404-page-not-found-wagner
# Loqi ok, I added "“Facebook is, in a phrase, “so high school”; however, unlike “so middle school” Myspace, the slow death of Facebook is infinitely more justified.” https://thebaffler.com/salvos/404-page-not-found-wagner" to the "See Also" section of /site-deaths https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55420&oldid=54834
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# Loqi Pinboard is a silo for hosting bookmarks https://indieweb.org/Pinboard
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[cleverdevil] Good morning, IndieWeb!
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cweiske I began reindexing the whole indieweb chat archive on my new server, so that https://indiechat.search.cweiske.de/ will be fully back up tomorrow.
# jeremycherfas Cweiske++
# [cleverdevil] Now that I have a really great solution for tracking my TV/Movie watch history in an automated fashion, I want to have the same thing for my podcast consumption...
# cjwillcock cweiske++ most helpful, thank you
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[schmarty] [cleverdevil] i very much also want automated podcast listen tracking
# [cleverdevil] So, I use Overcast for my podcast client, and it does have an OPML export that *may* have the information I need in it.
# [cleverdevil] I could periodically download this file (automatically), parse it, and publish events to my site.
# [cleverdevil] But, I am in the Overcast Slack and and pinging Marco Arment about it as well.
# [schmarty] ooh i also use overcast, so go go go 😉
# [cleverdevil] Perhaps he'd be open to adding a feed that I can parse without hacks.
# [cleverdevil] Or a webhook.
# [schmarty] when i was still on android there were a couple of podcatchers that used the last.fm API and could be pointed at custom servers. my phone died before i got around to setting that up, though.
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# [cleverdevil] OK, I have a script that can reliably read the Overcast extended OPML export, and identify recently watched episodes, including a timestamp of when they were played.
# [cleverdevil] s/watched/listened.
# [cleverdevil] Biggest blockers: 1. this export file is hidden behind an authenticated portal at overcast.fm 2. podcast art isn't available in the OPML file.
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# jeremycherfas [Cleverdevil] Is there no way to use Overcast's share sheet?
# [cleverdevil] That wouldn't be automatic.
# [cleverdevil] I want it to just track what I listen to automatically and publish it to my site, just like I do with my Trakt.TV history.
# jeremycherfas Not entirely, no ...
# jeremycherfas Fair enough
# [cleverdevil] That wouldn't be automatic.
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# [cleverdevil] Yeah I considered that. I’m going to see if Marco has a view.
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# [jgmac1106] Chris Alrich builds a faux podcast feed to record his listens
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# [smerrill] https://twobithistory.org/2018/12/18/rss.html
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# [cleverdevil] I have a script now that can basically do the hard part.
# [cleverdevil] It logs into overcast.fm (or restores a saved session from disk if available), parses the OPML, and identifies recently watched episodes.
# [cleverdevil] I figured out how to fetch artwork, too, but I haven't written it into the script yet.
# [cleverdevil] I definitely want to be careful not to piss off Marco!
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chrisaldrich good morning indiewebz
# chrisaldrich Has anyone heard of or used Write Freely? https://writefreely.org/
# chrisaldrich What is Write Freely?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Write Freely" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Write Freely is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# sknebel Write Freely is /WriteFreely
# [smerrill] same folks building https://write.as/
# chrisaldrich I knew it was Matt Baer, but hadn't seen or heard of it until a few minutes ago via https://tedium.co/2019/01/01/2019-independent-blogging-trends/
# chrisaldrich Looks like you can also join pre-existing instances too. Appears to essentially be Mastodon, but for blogging: https://writefreely.org/instances
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# [cleverdevil] [Rose] here is my Python script that I run periodically in a cron job which looks at my Trakt history and publishes to my site -> https://gist.github.com/cleverdevil/d6290a023c28bd8f6aee4ef136a3ba98
# [cleverdevil] The overcast stuff is super in progress 🙂
# [cleverdevil] (there is a tiny conf file you have to make to use that script, and its pretty bespoke for me right now, but the bones are there)
# [cleverdevil] Basically, its just reading an Atom feed from Trakt Pro.
# [cleverdevil] No magic 😉
# [cleverdevil] I stopped using Day One a while ago. Built a little script that published all my historical content as private entries to my website.
# [cleverdevil] Now I use Drafts with an action to Micropub journal entries to my website with private visibility.
# [cleverdevil] [Rose] here is my WIP Overcast code -> https://gist.github.com/cleverdevil/a8215850420493c1ee06364161e281c0
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# [smerrill] writefreely looks neat.
# chrisaldrich I like the idea behind writefreely and the fact that they're monetizing pieces for long term sustainability, but I worry about "free" open instances that die or aren't maintained and essentially act as mini silos.
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# chrisaldrich Yes, telegra.ph looks more like the "old" write.as. The newer incarnation of write.as seems to have moved *way* more to the fediverse side of things since November based on their blog.
# chrisaldrich The fact that write.as is now open source and self-hostable is quite interesting though.
# chrisaldrich It could be used to replace things like Facebook groups and other smaller community related pieces.
# chrisaldrich I'm curious if educators like @jgmac1106 would consider using /writefreely as classroom-based blogging communities?
# chrisaldrich It looks like it's added enough functionality (and with community replies coming) that it could be used for something like that.
# chrisaldrich Though I can't tell if it's got some of the privacy related pieces that some might be looking for.
# chrisaldrich voss, where does one read telegra.ph spam though? Do they have a readable feed?
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[voss] And there's a bunch of pages like this: https://telegra.ph/Looking-for-someone-to-write-my-essay-11-26
# chrisaldrich I see what you mean. I have an education related WithKnown instance that is continually spammed by those two key words. It really kills me.
# chrisaldrich I suppose they've got to write something when they're not writing essays? ;)
# chrisaldrich I know that WithKnown focused heavily on the edu market and suspect that's how they drew these essay blogger spam. I'm curious if others with non-edu related sites have seen it as much?
# chrisaldrich Voss are you using the Akismet plugin? https://github.com/mapkyca/KnownAkismet
# chrisaldrich And does your site touch on any education related pieces?
# [voss] chrisaldrich My site it just my personal site, with no educational aspect, except maybe for my future self (: I was using the Akismet plugin, but realised it also blocked some webmentions from showing up. Instead, as of today, I disabled the public comments functionality in Known. Hopefully that will stop the deluge of essay writer spam.
# chrisaldrich I may have to do the same thing with one of my sites or just mothball it since it is more of a sandbox....
# chrisaldrich If you think of it, directions for disabling public comments would be a nice thing to have for the Known wiki page....
# chrisaldrich If I recall I think @jgmac1106 did it by hiding the section in CSS, but I never heard if it worked.
# chrisaldrich alright... out to a meeting.
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# [cleverdevil] FYI, [Rose], I updated that Overcast gist with code that can now identify episode artwork as well.
# [cleverdevil] One note: Marco rate limits the OPML export, so you have to run it infrequently.
# [cleverdevil] Not sure what rules he uses, he hasn't replied to me yet in Overcast Slack.
# [cleverdevil] (I'd love to convince him to make an optional Atom/RSS/JSON feed for me to consume instead of this dirty hack!)
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# [cleverdevil] Hey, it can't hurt!
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# kisik21 [eddie]: here's some feedback about your blog's design - it's hard to separate notes with dates being so bleak they almost blend with the background and no visible separators. Could you add some visual aid to help separate several notes on your homepage?
# kisik21 that would be really cool
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# kisik21 I drew inspiration for my design partially from twitter - at least with the webaction buttons. The separation between notes is also stemming from there.
# kisik21 it was logical to make a stream of blocks like twitter does
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KartikPrabhu I don't like the "blocks" very much. there are other ways to get content heirarchy
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# [cleverdevil] Auto-published from Overcast history 🙂
# [cleverdevil] [jgmac1106] I used your Known plugin as a starting point. Made some improvements!
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# [cleverdevil] Also shows up in Monthly Summaries - https://cleverdevil.io/summary/2019/01
# [jgmac1106] [cleverdevil] that is cool, will catch up when I am back to playing. I want to figure out your monthly updates next but put kind of an academic spin to help me keep my job and #indieweb
# [cleverdevil] Cool cool.
# [cleverdevil] I'll try and push up my changes to Listen in a PR soon.
# [jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] going to stick with WP.com for now but pain level...want the myspace experience still of changing all the things....nobody cares about plumbing if they can't choose the paint
# [jgmac1106] paying* level to remove ads
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# [cleverdevil] I just emailed feedback@overcast.fm with a link to the gist, and to some examples.
# [cleverdevil] Basically asking Marco if he is 1. cool with me doing this hack 2. open to adding an RSS/Atom/JSON feed for listen history to Overcast.fm.
# [cleverdevil] (Note: I've already hit his rate limit for the OPML export, haha)
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# [cleverdevil] I think I hit it 7 or 8 times.
# [cleverdevil] Within a few hours.
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[grantcodes] Got my updated on your own site micropub client updated! Would love some people to try it out
# [grantcodes] Really need to write a post or something that shows all the features it has
# [grantcodes] Haha oops
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