#indieweb 2019-01-10
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[cleverdevil] I was thinking more like every 8 hours for the time being.
# [cleverdevil] For now, I am going to run it manually until I hear from him.
# [cleverdevil] (If I hear from him?)
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Loqi OPML stands for Outline Processor Markup Language, an XML-based format and defacto standard used for feed lists interchange https://indieweb.org/OPML
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[tantek] OPML << [[Category:jargon]]
# Loqi ok, I added "[[Category:jargon]]" to the "See Also" section of /OPML https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55454&oldid=55162
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chrisaldrich tantek, we were discussing essay writers outside of the IndieWeb sphere. They're people that students might hire to write college assignments instead of doing themselves.
# chrisaldrich Typically this is considered cheating, but students are willing to pay hundreds for someone to do their term papers instead of writing them themselves.
# chrisaldrich They also are apparently very ardent comment spammers as a means of getting attention for their services.
# chrisaldrich The general context is that these essay writers have figured out how to target the comments sections of WithKnown sites (possibly because the company was education focused) as a means of flogging their wares.
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# chrisaldrich I'd say that most blog posts would be considered essays though very few call them that.
# chrisaldrich Montaigne is considered one of the best essayists... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essays_(Montaigne) could be a good place to start.
# chrisaldrich I suppose it's rare for serious essayists to post their work online instead of in physical print.
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# [tantek] rediscovering my conference "roll" posts, e.g. this from etech 2004: http://tantek.com/log/2004/02.html#d17t2118
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jeremycherfas Good morning [Rose] and Zegnat and IndieWeb in general
# jeremycherfas Excitement is good.
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[jgmac1106] Some stylistic differences between blogging and essays. Whats difference between a blog and journalism article? And folks notice WordPress removed the word blog from their documentation? It's for publishing not blogging now
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "difference between a blog post and an op-ed" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "difference between a blog post and an op-ed is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [jgmac1106] @zegnat and the context collapse works the wother way for me, I have to beak my students of treating a blog post like a facebook or instagram update with no line breaks and one short paragraph....yet they also have to hand in a digital essay assignment...which is usually a post or a page. Its the same answer as the tootsie roll pop after three citations its now an essay
# [jgmac1106] well off to write for the day...didn;t hit my four hours on book yeserday have to make up 1.5 hours today
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# jeremycherfas Zegnat Op-eds are a strange mixture. In some papers they are mostly written by a small roster of regular columnists. In others, they are more often by outside people with a point of view. Hard to generalise. I would say that some long-form blog posts might be as well structured as a good essay, but the vast majority are not.
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# jeremycherfas Optionally per post, yes. But not vital, for me.
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# jeremycherfas [jgmac1106] Who must, and why?
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[smerrill] good morning.
# jeremycherfas Morning
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[voss] grantcodes postrchild looks great, but I can't login to the micropub endpoint using Known. http://voss.co/files/postrchild-error.png
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[grantcodes] [voss] 1.0.1 won't work if your site isn't https
# [voss] [grantcodes] it is, https://blog.voss.co
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bradenslen Good morning Indieweb
# bradenslen I've been having a conversation with Francois Planque the maintainer of B2evolution CMS platform about B2 adding webmention support
# bradenslen I'm hoping he will stop in here for any technical questions.
# bradenslen I've hit the limits of what little I know or can explain. Our discussion here down in the comments: https://ramblinggit.com/2019/01/webmentions-on-b2evolutions-todo-list/
# bradenslen The good thing is another platform is actively looking into Indieweb support. FYI.
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# [grantcodes] [voss] together and postrchild both use the same library for auth so there may very well be an issue with it
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# [grantcodes] Ah yeah that would do it 😄
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# [jgmac1106] !tell tantek I already separate my writing as articles (html pages on my website) versus posts (on my social stream)...no algorithm just intuition
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "b2evolution" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "b2evolution is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# bradenslen [tantek] stub page made. It's not pretty but I didn't break the wiki.
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# [cleverdevil] [Rose]++ for updating Indiepaper's website and iOS Shortcut!
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# [cleverdevil] Very much appreciated. I've been meaning to do this for a while.
# [cleverdevil] I've been a little disillusioned about Indiepaper because its been such a pain to get the iOS app approved 😛
# [cleverdevil] Poor [eddie] has volunteered to help and Apple is putting him through the ringer.
# [cleverdevil] It will handle the IndieAuth dance and then have a native share sheet.
# [cleverdevil] So you don't have to go through Shortcuts.
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[schmarty] i really like the shortcut!
# [schmarty] (once i got it set up. an app would make that much easier!)
# [cleverdevil] True!
# [cleverdevil] eddie++ for his Swift expertise.
# [cleverdevil] (Oh, and hopefully NetNewsWire will adopt it too, eventually).
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j12t Not strictly indieweb, but related: "Paradux: a scheme to recover from maximum personal data disaster". https://upon2020.com/blog/2019/01/paradux-a-scheme-to-recover-from-maximum-personal-data-disaster/ Would love some feedback.
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# [cleverdevil] Now I just need to get Marco to un-ban me from the OPML export and give me permission to use overcast.fm this way 😄
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